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Are you a packrat? Need to reorganize?

viper522

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Many of us packrats associate 'things' with 'locations', and breaking this bond is very difficult. That spool of .030 flux wire doesn't belong in the 1/2 gallon plastic plant pot on the third shelf - but that's where it's been for 2 years so that must be it's designated location. At least I'll know where to find it when I do need it.

We also tend easily assign sentimental value, regardless of actual value, and have a hard time letting go of our collection. For example, I still have the failed window motor from the first new car I ever bought - it works, as long as there's no load on it. That's insanity. :wtf:

I've discovered some methods to help deal with this.

The first is to have a yard sale. This is no secret. You will find that nothing displaces sentimental value better than good 'ol greenbacks. I may not want to throw out my precious garage junk, but I'm happy to get paid for it!

Take pictures if you must. Looking at a picture of your old junk is just as good as looking at it collecting dust on a shelf, only it'll take up less space.

Anything that's leftover from the sale goes into a large cardboard box. Close it up and leave it there for however long it takes for you to realize it wasn't that hard and you don't really miss any of the stuff. Now drag it out to the curb.

By now you're down to the more essential things. Problem is you've already associated your stuff with its current location and moving it around just doesn't make any sense! OCD is in full effect. You become overwhelmed with the idea of moving all that darn stuff. One thing that worked really well for me was to turn off the garage lights and just flip on one handheld inspection light and hang it in the middle. This created a narrow focal point and helped me ignore the mountain of stuff to tackle. It also broke my 'location association' issue. Literally looked at things in a new light.

Good luck! :beer:
 
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bimmer1980

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my father was quite the pack rat.... I think there is a bit of genetic stuff in the pack rat syndrome..... After he passed away when I was a teenager, we went thru a lot of his stuff and got rid of it.... We kept a lot of the cool stuff, but a lot of it had to go right in the dumpster.

As kids, my brother and I would spend hours in the loft of the garage digging thru miscellaneous **** and reading some old popular mechanics and science magazines....

I work at not being a packrat, but somedays it is hard.....
 

SnailMechanic

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I try not to be a pack rat....so I only have a slight case. Although its hard looking at my father-in-law. He has a two car garage and a 2 car storage. Everything from windows WTF?, to 2 Honda motorcycles, a moped, tires, parts, 3 cars that haven't seen the light of day for 20 years, magazines, cabinets, tools, and just misc ****....oh and it carries outside too...lol. And he won't part with anything.....trust me...I have tried very hard...LOL.
 

bimmer1980

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one of the worst cases of packrattiness is a relative of my wife's..... This guy helps with business closing, etc.... so he has a warehouse with 3 floors (no kidding) that is piled full of stuff! it is ridiculous!! I wish I had a pic to post, because it is bad! one of the random items he had is/was 30 or 40 large boxes of socks!! mismatched, no less. the daughter is trying to get rid of some of the stuff on ebay and craiglist, but he keeps hauling in more....

The warehouse would make an awesome shop if it was cleaned out and renovated..... the main floor has about 10 ft ceilings and there is an elevator to go up to the other floors.... Overall, the warehouse is probably at least 30' by 70'......
 

61scout80

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WATCH THE TV SHOW HOARDERS ON TLC! I caught a marathon of that show. i tend to keep stuff that has no good use but i might be able to fix or reuse some day. for example I replaced almost every light fixture in my house but didn't throw away the old ones because they still worked. I took apart a broken washer, keeping the motor, switches and pump. i had a bunch of other junk like that too.


On that show some clown was standing 3 feet above his floor on trash. He was saying the same phrases i do about justifying his garbage. as it was getting tossed he would say "oh, that still works!" "i was going to fix that some day" "i could use this for a project i wanted to do". i immediately went through the house and tossed 3 ********* garbage bags of junk, then pulled my 96 gallon container in the garage and filled that the rest of the way up. i could probably replace all that **** for $50, why the hell was i keeping it?! now i make it a point to find one useless item a week to throw away.

Since watching that tv show i look at things way different. I hate throwing away "good" stuff, so when i come in possession of something that still works and i don't need i list it on some local websites as "free until trash day". if someone takes it, great. if not it goes to the dump.
 

SnailMechanic

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That is a great show. The worst is the food. When the one lady was like "I don't think food goes bad until it starts to bulge."
 

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That is a great show. The worst is the food. When the one lady was like "I don't think food goes bad until it starts to bulge."

yeah! she was the one that was plucking the stuff out of the rotten food puddle saying it was still good! and she had that lump that used to be a pumpkin! dammit, now i need to throw something away!!!!!!!! :beer:
 

nate379

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Nope. If I have no intentions of using it in a year or so, I give it away or trash it. Moving every 3-4 years thins out the junk I keep too.
 

Joe Mamma

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I can keep something for 10 years and never need it. But once I toss it, it won't be 72 hours before I need it. This has happened often enough that I think it must be an unwritten law of nature.

Yeah, this happens to me too.

Joe Mamma
 

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That is a great show. The worst is the food. When the one lady was like "I don't think food goes bad until it starts to bulge."

Seriously, if you can't close the fridge door all the way and it is causing the food inside to spoil, you need to throw some of that stuff in the back from last year out!
 

Kev442

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Hoarders is making me look more and more like a mild case. I have made a point of rummaging through the boxes in the attic, etc to see what I have. I also filled the trash can right up the same day. Its getting better, you can see the top of the dryer again and there is a 1' x 2' spot on the workbench that I can actually use!:bounce:
 

wantedabiggergarage

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Thursday, I have the dumpster to myself. I do have a tendancy to hang onto chit too much, same as my father (who I realized just how much xhit during his six weeks in the hospital last xmas), and grandfathers (who lived through the depression and hung onto things until needed).

I know people B&M about the economy, but these aren't the days where we save burlap bags for curtains and prybar warped wood into place to build the house.

Since I am off to my lonesome Thursday, I plan on putting it to good use. Especially since when I tell my family, I want either a dumpster or nothing for Christmas, I mean it.
 

supertooljunkie

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I am a packrat. It drives my wife nuts. I will save "good" stuff until I am tried of tripping over it. Then I gather it all up and garage sale it. What ever is left goes to the scrapyard for the extra $$, or to the recycle center.
The money is split with the wife and goes for tools and bills. Everyone is happy.
 

justinmc

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Thursday, I have the dumpster to myself. I do have a tendancy to hang onto chit too much, same as my father (who I realized just how much xhit during his six weeks in the hospital last xmas), and grandfathers (who lived through the depression and hung onto things until needed).

I know people B&M about the economy, but these aren't the days where we save burlap bags for curtains and prybar warped wood into place to build the house.

Since I am off to my lonesome Thursday, I plan on putting it to good use. Especially since when I tell my family, I want either a dumpster or nothing for Christmas, I mean it.

So whats your address? I'll be by with my dumpster so you can deposit your stuff in it. LOL :lol_hitti

Yeah I need to clean some stuff out too... hence my tool selloff here lately. Gotta make room. Its bad when you start forgetting you had tools because you have so many. LOL
 
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judgethis

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Since my new garage (two car) has been finished Ive been going thru my old garage and couldnt believe the stuff I had saved. It was sad. I made two trips to the dump in the truck and it was loaded. I had gloves, multiple pairs, with the fingers worn out that I was saving???? Boxes!! I had about 50 empty boxes that I saved so I could put stuff in to save. Go figure.
Them came the shed with the car parts. I had stuff from when I worked at the dealership that was probably 10 years old. Stuff for my GTO I had 2 and 3of that I didnt realize. I probably couldnt find it so I bought it or it was a deal I couldnt pass up. Now Ill probably resell them. My mom says I get it from my dad. When I go visit and see his garage I can probably agree.
I just went thru the basement there was another trip to the dump. If I hadnt used it in a years or so it going out.
 

rodnok1

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I got roped into cleaning a house that could have been on Hoarders. When we got there the was a 75 ft long pile of trash 4 ft wide across the front yard. 7 tvs, god knows how many bikes. Just stacks and stacks of ****. The city trash trucks just kept coming by picking uo what they could. I personnally spent two hard long days hauling **** out of the garge/yard to the dump(just the front yard). I took two trucks just of scrap metal, one of batteries/tires/20+ gallon jugs of oil and another dozen of antifreeze. One HUGE load of lumber. Seven trips truck maxed out with trash(I had a f350 long bed). We didn't even touch the inside. I made it 3 feet insidethe house and almost puked. I just peed in the front yard, figured it was safer. I tried to not actually go into the garge...I burned my clothes and bleached my truck bed..not kidding. We made just enough room to push the POS car not running inside the garage so the fines would stop, WE SHOULD HAVE BURNT THAT HOUSE DOWN. They still live there, the stink from urine/trash/dead rats was absolutely horrible. They lived 5 blocks from the dump thank god. I refused to take anything home from fear of bugs/disease. My stupid sister started mowing the front and back yards, took a day to completely mow the frt(with a rider), then she tried to mow the back yard and hit two mattresses and wrapped them around the blades. I usually fix her mower, but I let her old man do it that time. One good thing did happen, I got hit on at the dump by two chicks...I looked like hell too...strange women. **** like that makes you paranoid and makes me feel aoverly normal.
 

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I can keep something for 10 years and never need it. But once I toss it, it won't be 72 hours before I need it. This has happened often enough that I think it must be an unwritten law of nature.

Exactly, happens to me every time - therefore we must keep the stuff forever since we "may need it" someday. :)

-Stephen
 

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I love people who let junk pile up. I get paid very well to haul their **** away once they get fed up with it. :D
 

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I have one box left from my child hood that I allow myself to have. Other than that, just a fwe random boxes. I do a thorough cleaning about once a year though. If I cant bring myself to toss it, I just cut through the anxiety by putting it in a box. When Im done cleaning, I seal it, date it, then store it. when the next cleaniing comes around if its still sealed it gets tossed. I dont even open it, It will just start the process over.

The problem with keeping hordes of **** is you can never remember or find it if you do need it, so whats the point?
 

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Yes, and damn proud of it!

The loft in my shop is made from 2x6 and 2x8 that was the wooden deck on my house for 28 years. Some of the wiring in my shop came from the house after a major remodel. I have 2 ceiling fans and a squirrel cage fan for summer ventilation (keeps the flies out). The wood door sill in my house was from 6x6 oak beam I salvaged from a lumber mill I bought (to fix up) built about 1940. The drinks in the shop are cooled in a cast off frig that keeps them real cold. I have 9 tons of fir 2x12x30' (yep I weighed the trailer)stacked up waiting for my creative juices to start flowing. I could go on and on. My wife could go on and on. My survivors will have a hey day and I'll be smiling the whole time.:bounce:
 

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So whats your address? I'll be by with my dumpster so you can deposit your stuff in it. LOL :lol_hitti

Yeah I need to clean some stuff out too... hence my tool selloff here lately. Gotta make room. Its bad when you start forgetting you had tools because you have so many. LOL
We could make a big party out of it! I was doing some remodeling around the house this year and filled a 30YD dumpster with chit and debris. I still need another 30YD dumpster for the rest of it. I may get a 40YD dumpster just to be safe.

Unfortunately that 72 hour rule has struck multiple times since then. So far I figure it has cost me $150 to replace some of the stuff I threw away.
 

Kevin54

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I started tossing years ago. I had scrap pieces of siding that was maybe 1 1/2' long, a 2x4 that was maybe a couple of feet long, car parts from a car that I had a while back, etc. So now I ask around if anyone can use the items or if they might bring a few bucks in change I'll advertise them on Craigslist. I finally got my wife talked into garage sales to get rid of things that we haven't used for years and has been tucked back in the pantry, drawer or closet. The one year she made about $2500 for a weekend and she was hooked. WhooHoo!!!
But for the most part, in this order.....I will ask friends first if they can use something, then it goes on Craigslist, then it goes by the street for free, if that doesn't work, it goes to the trash.
 

nate379

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One of my roomates had a girlfriend that was a hoarder. They broke up and the garage was so packed full of **** that you couldn't walk in there without darn near killing yourself.

Gave her 2 weeks to haul it away... never showed up.

Me and the other roomate cleaned it out over a weekend. Everything went to the dumpster. She showed up like 2 weeks later expecting to pick up all her stuff. Sorry... :bounce:

I thought it was funny because she was a stupid cheap *****. We split the bills even, but she would go in the garage and turn the heat down to 45*. Well the heater in the garage was also the heat for the bonus room off the garage which one roomate had.
She would shut the lights off in a room you were in.
Turn the water heater off after she had showered. We all were all different schedules, so you can imagine how nice that was.
 
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tdkkart

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Just saw an episode of Hoarders, one woman wouldn't get rid of stuff, she ended up 1400 boxes of stuff in storage. DHS had taken her kids away, she ended up divorced 6 months after the show was taped, still didn't have the kids back.


I have adopted a simple rule. If I don't need it for a current project I don't buy it, take it, save it etc. Yes, I run across deals or stuff I'd like to have, or have a future use for, all the time but I just say "NO".
When it comes time to do a project it probably costs me more than it COULD have, but I don't have the stuff to deal with in the mean time.
We bought a different place and moved last year. I hauled alot of stuff to the scrapyard and dump, some of which I just couldn't figure out why I had saved. Probably should have throw it out but was just too lazy.

So remember, if you don't need it NOW, don't save it.
 
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viper522

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Well, it all started after I watched the "Horders" marathon. The next day I was out in my garage and it suddenly occured to me that I could be "one" :lol_hitti. So I started a thread about organizing my garage.:thumbup:

To see pics, go here:

http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48602

Viper522 suggested I look at this thread, Thanks Viper522 for that.

happy to help. un-hoarding is therapeutic and just makes good sense (and cents if you can sell it!).
 

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With the last move we filled a semi trailer with everything from the wife and kids. Once the wife heard how much weight we had she began to look in all the boxes and throwing away stuff. The problem is we have only been married 3 years at that point and had over 13,500 pounds of stuff in the truck. I was a true bachlor before we got married move everything I had that was important to me in the back of a pickup truck.
 
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