picts of your in-floor heat set ups.

E.rodz · Dec 4, 2009

please post up some picts of your in floor heat controls and pump set ups I am just setting mine up for a 750 sq ft.carport and would like to see some set ups done and please let me know how it works and how warm you run it. thanks in advance.

chevelle64 · Dec 4, 2009

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Here's a few shots of mine. Set it up last year and had it set at 58 degrees. This year I'm setting it at 60. I think some heat from the pipes is affecting the thermostat, that's why I bumped it up a bit. I need to insulate the pipes a bit more. Probably should have placed the thermostat a little further away...hindsight. Very happy with the overall operation, no regrets. The system does not run very often at all, the garage is very well insulated. Hope that helps.

E.rodz · Dec 6, 2009

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72VETTE454 said:
Here's a few shots of mine. Set it up last year and had it set at 58 degrees. This year I'm setting it at 60. I think some heat from the pipes is affecting the thermostat, that's why I bumped it up a bit. I need to insulate the pipes a bit more. Probably should have placed the thermostat a little further away...hindsight. Very happy with the overall operation, no regrets. The system does not run very often at all, the garage is very well insulated. Hope that helps.

thanks for posting the picts.just out of curiosity how did you get all the air out of the system with you air seperator not at the highest point? how big of an area are you heating with it?

E.rodz · Dec 6, 2009

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here is is far as i got this weekend.very time consuming .hopefully i can presure test later this week and install by next weekend. :bounce:

MN BIANCHI · Dec 6, 2009

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Mine should be operational later this week. I am waiting for the off-peak controller and electric meter.

goshawks00 · Dec 7, 2009

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Damn and I thought air bags were tough!
Barry

nate379 · Dec 7, 2009

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Those little instant water heaters have enough power to them? :wtf:

Burl · Dec 7, 2009

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30 gal. NG water heater, 1000' total of 1/2" pex, I keep it at around 59 deg., been in operation about 1 month. Still getting the bugs (and air) worked out.

72Tunaboat · Dec 7, 2009

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A aouple projects I have done in the past.

A Waste Oil boiler installed at a Honda Service center

A residential install

tdkkart · Dec 7, 2009

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I believe the pump manufacturers recommend running the pumps vertical rather than horizontal. Laying the horizontal makes it hard for them to clear air pockets.

E.rodz · Dec 7, 2009

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72Tunaboat said:
A aouple projects I have done in the past.

A Waste Oil boiler installed at a Honda Service center

A residential install

just checking out your handy workjust wondering how an oil burner can have no ex vent stack?just not finished? or am I just stupid if you ask my wife she will answer that one for you.lol.thanks for posting

72Tunaboat · Dec 7, 2009

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E.rodz said:
just checking out your handy workjust wondering how an oil burner can have no ex vent stack?just not finished? or am I just stupid if you ask my wife she will answer that one for you.lol.thanks for posting

Sorry, I should have posted it with the photo. The venting wasn't done yet , as well as the wiring. Thanks for pointing that out. :beer:

rlme36 · Dec 7, 2009

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E.rodz said:
here is is far as i got this weekend.very time consuming .hopefully i can presure test later this week and install by next weekend.

Can I ask where you got all your mechanicals? I am also looking to purchase the hydro shark set up.

thanks,

rob

MN BIANCHI · Dec 7, 2009

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nate379 said:
Those little instant water heaters have enough power to them?

They are not very big, but they are quite powerful. This little boiler draws 120 amps. This system will be heating just under 3,000 sq. ft.

nate379 · Dec 7, 2009

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This is mine. Heats the house and garage.

chevelle64 · Dec 7, 2009

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As far as getting all of the air out: I put water in through the fill valve, with the shut-off closed, and that forced out air and water through the drain valve. I kept the water flowing for quite a while to make sure most of the air was purged. The air seperator takes care of any remaining air. I'm no expert, I followed Radiantec's directions. My garage is 26 X 32 X 14. I attached a picture with the valves labeled.

D.J. · Dec 7, 2009

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Nate379, Please more info NG, or LPG, electric water heater?
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duaneb9729 · Dec 7, 2009

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Pumps can be mounted in any direction except for the motor pointing down, it makes no difference at all to the pump or how it works in the system

nate379 · Dec 9, 2009

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Natural gas. Water heater is tied into the boiler. Indirect Fired unit.

D.J. said:
Nate379, Please more info NG, or LPG, electric water heater?

E.rodz · Dec 10, 2009

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rlme36 said:
Can I ask where you got all your mechanicals? I am also looking to purchase the hydro shark set up.

thanks,

rob

I bought just about everything from menards a local building supply center.I will let everyone know how it works shortly.

5wndwcpe · Dec 14, 2009

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Here's mine

engineer2 · Dec 14, 2009

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Simple 2-loop counterflow system running off our home water heater to heat 500 sq ft basement family room. Really don't need the bleed valve. BTW, the Watts brand temperature regulator valve is ****. Get a Taco instead.

nate379 · Dec 14, 2009

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What kind of BTUs does it put out?

MN BIANCHI said:
They are not very big, but they are quite powerful. This little boiler draws 120 amps. This system will be heating just under 3,000 sq. ft.

MN BIANCHI · Dec 14, 2009

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nate379 said:
What kind of BTUs does it put out?

I don't have the exact specs at home, but it is somewhat in excess of 80.000 BTU's.

nate379 · Dec 15, 2009

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I was just curious, trying to compare to my boiler, which is either 90 or 95,000BTUs.

My boiler keeps my house at 70* when it's -20* out so I can imagine that your setup works just fine as well.

MN BIANCHI · Dec 15, 2009

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nate379 said:
I was just curious, trying to compare to my boiler, which is either 90 or 95,000BTUs.

My boiler keeps my house at 70* when it's -20* out so I can imagine that your setup works just fine as well.

The electrician just got is fired up yesterday. It has been below zero here for the last 10 days or so. When I talked to him today he said the shop was over 50 degrees after running less than 1 day. I will be out there on Saturday and check it out. Hope everything works as planned.

E.rodz · Dec 18, 2009

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:bounce:

its alive! got it hooked up and running last night slab was 24deg. 8 hrs later the slab is 56 f .I will post up some more picts as soon as i can. :beer:

Burl · Dec 18, 2009

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Where did you get those sweet gauge thermos?

5wndwcpe · Dec 18, 2009

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Burl said:
Where did you get those sweet gauge thermos?

MSC

Very similar to these:

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRI...d=15382Pstoreid=1040626Ppagenumber=4335Pmode=

E.rodz · Dec 18, 2009

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wooohhoooo. its alive. !!!!! the system is up and running this system is heating 650sq ft. slab has went from 23f to 62f in less that 24 hrs.the boiler is a hydro shark 10000kw it is prob. spinning the electric meter wheel off and into orbit.I can't wait for the next electric bill. :thumbup:

E.rodz · Dec 18, 2009

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Burl said:
Where did you get those sweet gauge thermos?

the gauges are from msc. and the best thing is they are MADE IN USA!

Weedwaka · Dec 19, 2009

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That looks great !!

What is the minimum flow rate on your Hydro Shark boiler ?

tdkkart · Dec 20, 2009

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Weedwaka said:
That looks great !!

What is the minimum flow rate on your Hydro Shark boiler ?

I assume you're asking about minimum flow rate before it will start heating, such as on some gas fired heaters??

HydroSharks, and other Seisco manufactured heaters do not have a minimum flow rate to induce heating. Rather, they use a system that maintains and monitors a very slight temperature difference between the input and output.
Just as soon as that difference is not maintained the boiler kicks on to full heat, where it will remain as long as the output temp is below the desired level. Once the heater is able to maintain the desire output temp it starts modulating back to a lower power level which it adjusts as needed to maintain output temp. Once water flow stops the output temp will obviously jump up, at which point the hetaer shuts down completely.
Simple system that works very well.
I am using a 7KW Siesco to heat my 30 x40 pole building, works great.

70ss · Dec 20, 2009

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[QUOTE
Simple system that works very well.
I am using a 7KW Siesco to heat my 30 x40 pole building, works great.[/QUOTE]

What are your heating bills?

tdkkart · Dec 20, 2009

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70ss said:
What are your heating bills?

Not cheap, depending on your perspective. I figure that my shop is my entertainment. I don't go to the bars, I spend very little money anywhere else.

In the last 26 days I've used 895KW, yes I went and read the meter just for you(not really, I'm keeping some records and I read it every time I go out there).

So, apply that to your local rates. I keep the temp at 58* in 1/3, 50* in the other 2/3rds 24-7, which is plenty warm for me if I'm moving around, I don't wear a coat to the shop.

My average electric bill for the shop(seperate meter) the last 14 months has been $65/month.

The encouraging part this year is that I was only heating 16x30 last winter, made some insulation improvements over the summer. This year I am heating the entire 30x40 for the same or less $$$.

Yes, I could do it cheaper with gas, however there are a number of factors that prevent me from doing it right now.

70ss · Dec 20, 2009

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Thanks, sounds reasonable to me. I have a 36x48 garage with a small apartment in it thats only 350sq. ft. or so. I only have the radiant under the apartment so mine should be even lower hopefully. Thanks again.

E.rodz · Dec 21, 2009

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ok so maybe I have some issues of not leaving well enough alone.after i tripped on some left over alum. diamond plate and started thinking hey this would look good on the radiant system.this is the final product and it woorks great accept the lux themostat wich apeared to be doa.replaced it this weekend and everything works great now.going to try a slab. temp at 62f and we will see how much that costs a month and go from there..now its time to get back to finishing the rest of the shop.thanks to everyone for posting there picts. :thumbup:

72Tunaboat · Dec 21, 2009

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Nice work ERodz. You did a clean install and the Wall and trim look great. I wish all mechanical rooms looked as sano. :beer:

custom1 · Dec 21, 2009

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Erodz, That's a clean well thought out system, out of the way in a corner near the breaker panel. I like the diamond plate. I may have to steal that idea for mine. I need to protect the pex from the floor up about 4' to the manifolds. I'll post a pic later of what I have so far.

One thing I noticed about this thread. You have a 10k heater for 650sf and tdkkart has a 7k for 1200sf. How did each of you arrive at the size to use? I haven't bought mine yet, and have about 950 well insulated sf.

And please do keep us informed of the electric cost. I have asked this question before and rarely get details like tdkkart gave above.

E.rodz · Dec 21, 2009

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custom1 said:
Erodz, That's a clean well thought out system, out of the way in a corner near the breaker panel. I like the diamond plate. I may have to steal that idea for mine. I need to protect the pex from the floor up about 4' to the manifolds. I'll post a pic later of what I have so far.

One thing I noticed about this thread. You have a 10k heater for 650sf and tdkkart has a 7k for 1200sf. How did each of you arrive at the size to use? I haven't bought mine yet, and have about 950 well insulated sf.

And please do keep us informed of the electric cost. I have asked this question before and rarely get details like tdkkart gave above.

the boiler that I used is a little bigger that recomended but I do live in MN. and if you look close I am trying to plan for the future I am going to add another loop when I add a infloor lift and I will coil some tubes around the lift to just heat the center of the other bay that is 26x30 hopefully that works or the boiler just runs less??? maybe?? :headscrat

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