Hein Werner Resto - Thanks to Elroy and Hiball

mzolth · Jan 21, 2010

Finally finished up the resto of my Hein Werner WS jack and wanted to post a few pics of it finished. The handle is ready for paint but the rains and cooler temperatures set in so that will have to wait. I have the name plate too but it is so beat-up that I am debating on whether to reinstall it or not.

Thanks to Elroy for being a source of info and inspiration through his exhaustive posts of his rebuilds. If you want before pictures, just check out Elroys thread of his OS rebuild. Mine looked similar. After 50 years of professional and personal use by father and me, the grease and grime was thick and sticky. The worn bearing races on the casters were similar to Elroys too.

Thanks to Hiball for promptly providing a rebuild kit at a very reasonable price as well as answering some questions along the way.

What a joy to work on a solid piece of equipment that will probably last another 50 years. Hiball, should I buy another rebuild kit now or do you think seals and packing will still be available for it in 50 years? Hate the cliche but they don't build them like this anymore...

selohssa · Jan 21, 2010

That is BEEEUUUUTIFUL

Hiball · Jan 21, 2010

Looks Nice... I wouldnt buy a kit now, Reason being that the packing and Ucup will harden and exceed there shelf life well before there needed. I would reckon there will be enough demand and the parts are readily available that you wont have a problem securing a kit when you do need one. Again, Thanks for choosing me for your kit needs, I know there are other choices out there but i strive to keep my prices competitive and Provide top notch customer service.

Thanks, Steven

Mickey O · Jan 21, 2010

Is it painted with camouflage paint?

Zrexxer · Jan 21, 2010

In the words of C. Montgomery Burns: "Exxxcellllllllllennnnnt!"

Mickey O · Jan 21, 2010

You just added those pictures (very sneaky). Very nice, I wonder if the Harbor Fright jacks some have raved about will last 50 years, get rebuilt and go another 50. You can't beat a good old quality built USA made jack.

Hiball · Jan 21, 2010

Btw i think someone stole your handle. :lol_hitti

mzolth · Jan 21, 2010

Hiball, I was being a bit facetious asking about buying the rebuild kit. In fifty years, I'll be in my 90s and if I make it that far, somebody other then me will be worrying about that jack.

mzolth · Jan 21, 2010

Hiball said:
Btw i think someone stole your handle.

Gotta a spare?

Hiball · Jan 21, 2010

mzolth said:
Gotta a spare?

I might have, Is this Lester? I had someone requesting a handle today via email.

mzolth · Jan 21, 2010

Hiball said:
I might have, Is this Lester? I had someone requesting a handle today via email.

Again, being facetious. The handle is off because it is waiting for a couple of coats of primer and paint to match the rest.

Hiball · Jan 21, 2010

mzolth said:
Again, being facetious. The handle is off because it is waiting for a couple of coats of primer and paint to match the rest.

Just wondering, I swear i had a Lester send me a email today wanting a complete handle assembly. LOL

Elroy · Jan 21, 2010

Thank you postings. Especially the pictures !!

It's very interesting to see the variations in the construction. Your main lift arm casting is totally different form Elroy's WS. The bolt on king pin also points to an early example as do the the "teeth" cast into the saddle ears.

You'll also note the bracket that mounts the saddle appears to be cast in your example where the later ones are a fabricated steel weldment.

PLEASE snap a few pictures of the handle assembly.

You have a very nice jack there ! :thumbup:

mzolth · Jan 21, 2010

I'll snap a pick soon even though it's not been cleaned up.

evintho · Jan 21, 2010

Congratulations! Very nice resto! I'm just up the road apiece and recently restored a 1-1/4 ton Heinny. I too am indebted to Elroy and Hiball. Without their threads and expertise, I wouldn't have even tried!
My Hein-Werner

GDA · Jan 21, 2010

Outstanding! Ready for action for another 15 plus years..

eborcim · Jan 21, 2010

That's a nice resto.

mzolth · Jan 24, 2010

Elroy said:
Thank you postings. Especially the pictures !!

PLEASE snap a few pictures of the handle assembly.

Below are a couple of quick picks of the handle. It appears that the WS photos that I have seen on this forum have a t-handle but mine never had it. I'll be interested to know if Elroy notices any other differences.

Hiball · Jan 24, 2010

mzolth said:
Below are a couple of quick picks of the handle. It appears that the WS photos that I have seen on this forum have a t-handle but mine never had it. I'll be interested to know if Elroy notices any other differences.

Yours is older, The T handles didnt come along till later in life. There is no real way to determine the age. I can tell you that i have some catalogs from 68 and the T handle is present and i know the Hein Werner hydraulic line originated in the Mid to late 40's. So your jack is somewhere in between.

Elroy · Jan 24, 2010

mzolth said:
Below are a couple of quick picks of the handle.... I'll be interested to know if Elroy notices any other differences.

Three things stand out on that handle assembly that point to early production

The missing "tee" handle

the two piece, "tube in tube" handle column

the W7 item number cast into the head. Something tells me this item number was references in the older parts listing before being superseded by a multiple digit part number.

Combine all these unique features, like the bolted caster king pin, early lift arm configuration and the cast saddle trunnion, and Elroy would guess you're somewhere around a mid 50's production or earlier. It's a guess but like Hiball said, it's definitely an early example.

Very nice jack for sure! :bowdown:

Thank you kindly for taking the time to post up some pictures.

mzolth · Jan 24, 2010

Mid 50's makes sense. That was the time that my dad worked as a mechanic for Lincoln-Mercury dealerships in Denver. I'm fortunate to have his Snap-On box and tools from that era as well.

arkangel06 · Jan 24, 2010

Good job thats one nice jack!

G1K · Jan 24, 2010

This is a nice old jack that will run circles around most of the junk sold today...

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wazzabie · Aug 24, 2011

I found a cache photo of this old WS jack here on google.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT9zyV9BfVZTk2PcOsbjAWczsa1P3XNKaXe2eBskzeTolrjnkaJ

I have two examples of the WS jack and both do not have the T handle. Both are painted in a harvester red color. One has a two piece handle the other is solid. One plate is 100% worn. The other plate is 70%. Both came out of a shop from the late 1940's I was told from the son who's father owned the shop.

What I don't like about this model is that the handle either rests fully down or fully in front. If I have a car lifted space may not permit me to have the handle fully down. Fully up it will hit the car. I also prefer being able to turn the shaft as suppose to the nut at the end of the handle. So I'm thinking about modifying one of these.

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