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A New Kind of Drill and Tap Chart

A_Pmech

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Like most mechanics and machinists I often need to reference a drill or tap chart to pick out the correct tap drill, clearance drill, or just to know what size a Letter U drill really is.

Until today I've either washed my hands thoroughly before opening up Machinery's Handbook or I've used a cardboard tap chart stashed in my toolbox. The problem with both of those is they're made out of paper and paper gets dirty, bent, torn and eventually wears out even when laminated. Wall charts are available, but unless you have them plastered on everything you can never see the damned thing from where you're working!

I decided it was time to do something about those grimy tap charts!

Here's a tap chart that won't tear, is easy to clean and rather hard to break, etched in .040" 3003 Aluminum.

The front side of the working prototype:

Drillsidebw.jpg


And the back side:

Tapsidebw.jpg


Hold it with greasy fingers? Wipe it off!
Drop it in a puddle of mud? Rinse it off with a hose!
Run it over with a semi? It will probably still be readable.
Heck, do all three at the same time!

In short, I'm DONE with paper and laminated cardboard drill and tap charts.

:beer:

Ordering information from page 2

Hi guys,

For those who asked about size, the chart is approximately 6" x 8" and etched on both sides.

I worked out pricing today. The chart is priced at $24.50 each plus $4.75 USPS Flat Rate shipping.

Since I made this for myself, I'll be making a few minor changes to the "for sale" version, such as adding "Made in USA" to one side.

To purchase, please PM me or email me at:

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The image keeps the spam bots from getting my email.

Note: As usual, my photos leave something to be desired. It isn't bent, that's just the lens.
 
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Bolster

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That's pretty cool. Until you mass market those, I will have to make do with my plastic laminated paper copy.

It'll wipe off easily, rinse off a little, but would not pass the semi test.
 

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I am interested in one for myself please. Email me a pic of it and the price.


Thanks, JASTECH
 

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i was all set to say i would be interested as well, but then i realized it only goes down to #4. While i'll probably never need sub #4 machine screw threads for anything, i have the taps, so i would want it on the chart! Still a very cool piece though.
 

Flange

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I have one in Excel that I did years ago and laminated it.

I printed it out and laminated it.

If I knew how to upload documents on here I would put it up. It does metric, inch (fractions and ten thou), letter, Number and SWG from 0.0118" to 4 inch.
 

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Most of the better drill indexes have a tap drill chart built right in.
 

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A_PMech - I am really impressed by the etched plates you make. Any chance you could put together a post showing how you do it step by step? I've done a little reading about it aluminum etching with peel and stick blue mask, but am not sure I have a good feel for the details of the whole process.

For example, there's a writeup on instructables, but the mixture of peroxide to muratic is not well specified (2 to 1, but he doesn't seem to know what kind of peroxide he used).

I'd really enjoy seeing the process. It's obvious you have it down pat.
 

Bruce Lancaster

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What, you don't have that tattoed on your left arm yet??

My semi-durable chart is an ancient tear out from some tool catalog, printed on soft paper that is turning brown...probably from a wartime cheapy catalog.
It is durable (and probably owes its survival too) to two slabs of plexiglass held over it by aluminun rivets, real rivets with formed and bucked heads. The plexi has a few scars and stains but is intact and 99% readable. I strongly suspect wartime aircraft factory origin from the materials and fasteners...

An all metal one that is inherently durable is BRILLIANT and really desireable!
 

Brad54

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I've got an 8.5 x 11 plastic chart hanging on the wall between my tool box and my drill press.

I saw a big, vintage brass chart for sale not tool long ago that I REALLY wanted, but couldn't justify the money, though it wasn't unreasonably priced. It was definitely garage art, but it was functional garage art.

You need to put a price tag on that one you just made, mech!

-Brad
 
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A_PMech - I am really impressed by the etched plates you make. Any chance you could put together a post showing how you do it step by step? I've done a little reading about it aluminum etching with peel and stick blue mask, but am not sure I have a good feel for the details of the whole process.

For example, there's a writeup on instructables, but the mixture of peroxide to muratic is not well specified (2 to 1, but he doesn't seem to know what kind of peroxide he used).

I'd really enjoy seeing the process. It's obvious you have it down pat.

+1

Very nice. :bowdown:

What are the overall dimensions?
 

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Like most mechanics and machinists I often need to reference a drill or tap chart to pick out the correct tap drill, clearance drill, or just to know what size a Letter U drill really is.

Until today I've either washed my hands thoroughly before opening up Machinery's Handbook or I've used a cardboard tap chart stashed in my toolbox. The problem with both of those is they're made out of paper and paper gets dirty, bent, torn and eventually wears out even when laminated. Wall charts are available, but unless you have them plastered on everything you can never see the damned thing from where you're working!

I decided it was time to do something about those grimy tap charts!

Here's a tap chart that won't tear, is easy to clean and rather hard to break, etched in .040" 3003 Aluminum.

The front side of the working prototype:

Drillsidebw.jpg


And the back side:

Tapsidebw.jpg


Hold it with greasy fingers? Wipe it off!
Drop it in a puddle of mud? Rinse it off with a hose!
Run it over with a semi? It will probably still be readable.
Heck, do all three at the same time!

In short, I'm DONE with paper and laminated cardboard drill and tap charts.

:beer:



Note: As usual, my photos leave something to be desired. It isn't bent, that's just the lens.

Looks good, but since most new stuff (cars and motorcycles) use metric bolts, where are the metric tap sizes?
 
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A_Pmech

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Hi guys,

I made the chart mainly to solve a problem I had around the shop. I just HATE greasy paper and I don't want to get my Machinery's Handbook dirty. It was a gift to me and I intend it to last my lifetime in the trade.

I wasn't sure if there would be a lot of interest in the chart or not, but obviously there is! Let me double-check my figures and I'll post up a price and more details soon.

hilld said:
Looks good, but since most new stuff (cars and motorcycles) use metric bolts, where are the metric tap sizes?

They will be on the Metric drill and tap chart. :)

I also have some other ideas for other etched charts and whatnot that I'm going to make for myself. I'm always open to ideas!
 

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Hi guys,

I made the chart mainly to solve a problem I had around the shop. I just HATE greasy paper and I don't want to get my Machinery's Handbook dirty. It was a gift to me and I intend it to last my lifetime in the trade.

I wasn't sure if there would be a lot of interest in the chart or not, but obviously there is! Let me double-check my figures and I'll post up a price and more details soon.



They will be on the Metric drill and tap chart. :)

I also have some other ideas for other etched charts and whatnot that I'm going to make for myself. I'm always open to ideas!

See, I was looking for a "combo chart", one that still lists metric tap sizes, but uses the fractional, letter, number drill bits as I have all of those, but not a great selection of metric drill bits. Does that make sense?
 

fomocoforrester

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Great job AP, but it would be sooo much nicer in stainless - maybe ss would be more difficult to etch ?

Another thought - I think it might look nicer if the background was etched rather than the numbers themselves, more like the labels and charts found on old machine tools and those superb ones you made for your band saw. You could even offer black or red japaning as an upgrade! ....:)
 
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A_Pmech

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Hi guys,

For those who asked about size, the chart is approximately 6" x 8" and etched on both sides.

I worked out pricing today. The chart is priced at $24.50 each plus $4.75 USPS Flat Rate shipping.

Since I made this for myself, I'll be making a few minor changes to the "for sale" version, such as adding "Made in USA" to one side.

To purchase, please PM me or email me at:

email-1.jpg


The image keeps the spam bots from getting my email.
 
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A_Pmech

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See, I was looking for a "combo chart", one that still lists metric tap sizes, but uses the fractional, letter, number drill bits as I have all of those, but not a great selection of metric drill bits. Does that make sense?

That makes sense. The only problem is it would start to get rather big or the letters would have to get pretty small to pack all the information into the available space! I didn't really make this chart to cover 100% of everything out there, just the standard stuff that everyone encounters daily.

I am planning a metric chart though. :)

fomocoforrester said:
Great job AP, but it would be sooo much nicer in stainless - maybe ss would be more difficult to etch ?

Another thought - I think it might look nicer if the background was etched rather than the numbers themselves, more like the labels and charts found on old machine tools and those superb ones you made for your band saw. You could even offer black or red japaning as an upgrade! ....

Thanks!

Good idea. Unfortunately, my shear won't cut stainless that thick and stainless needs to be deburred much more carefully to avoid razor sharp edges after shearing.

The reason why I went with etched letters is it's much easier to clean than an etched background and because the painted areas are recessed, so the paint is somewhat protected from mechanical wear.

:beer:
 

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A real machinest doesn't need a chart, he or she has them all memorizd. Alright im just kidding that look awesome.
 
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A_Pmech

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OK, I went though the prototype chart and I did find a couple of errors and made a few additions. I'll be picking up materials tomorrow.

:thumbup:
 
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Tap charts will ship Monday morning.

Another run of charts is under way!

:)
 
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