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Hansen vs. The New Harbor Freight Pittsburgh Pro Socket Trays

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Edit: A number of people have gotten confused between this new version and the old version of the Harbor Freight trays. The older version has been available for several years. It was made of red plastic with the numbers applied as stickers. The trays skipped numbers and were spaced too tightly together to mount a full set of impact sockets.

In contrast, the "new" trays haven't been available long, are branded as Pittsburgh Pro, come in a box with green patches on it, don't skip sizes, have etched numbers, are spaced widely enough to fit impact sockets, and are made of black plastic.

Please be sure you realize that this thread is about the new ones, not the old ones.






So I went out tonight and bough the 1/2" metric Hansen and the metric Harbor Freight New socket trays. I bought the HF stuff just hoping that maybe it'd be good enough that I could save the money but expecting to like the Hansen more and end up with a set of those.

I have to say there's very little to no difference between them. They have spots for the same sizes. The spacing seems the same. The overall size is almost the same. The major differences are how the socket mounts, the way the size is displayed, and the price.

The Hansen trays are long thin pegs with blobs at the bottoms. This means you mount the socket drive-up. The size is displayed on the end of each peg on a slanted bit at the top of the peg. They cost between $7 and $14 per tray depending on size and where you buy them.

The new HF Pittsburgh Pro trays have small raised squares with a short peg sticking out of them. This means you mount the socket drive-side down with the square portion through the broaching for the drive. The size is displayed on little "tombstones" between the shallow and deep rows. The price is $10 for a set of three (one each drive size in either SAE 68100 or Metric 68102).

I played with both tonight, loaded them both up with sockets, moved them around, etc. After fiddling with them for a while, I noticed a couple of things. I definitely prefer the way the HFPP trays mount the socket. Since I can pick it up from the open end, I can then directly attach it to the tool. The drive-up style of the hansen means I have to turn it over in my hand before I can stick it to the tool. I suppose you could just sit them on the pegs drive-down in the Hansen, but then you're making them all sit higher than they have to, which means the tips of the pegs are almost hidden inside the sockets. I found that I also had a small tendency to stab myself in the fingers with the Hansen tray's pegs.

I don't actually 100% like either of the labeling methods. The Hansen trays put the sizes in the best spot. However, to fit them onto the tips of the pegs, they're awfully small. The HFPP ones have nice big labels, but their positioning makes them slightly hard to see when the tray is towards the front of the drawer. Ideally, I think I'd like HFPP sized numbers on taller "tombstones" with a little angle to them but I think this would be either impossible or make the tray bigger.

They're also made of slightly different feeling plastic. Both bend dramatically if you try to pick up a fully loaded tray of impact sockets. For some reason, the HFPP one feels like it's just bendy while the Hansen feels like it's brittle and about to break. Obviously, this isn't true or else there'd be a lot of reports of broken Hansen trays and there aren't.

In the end, I'll be keeping the HFPP trays (and buying more) and returning the Hansen tray. There's just not that much difference between them. Either will serve well, either will do what it says on the tin, and both have good and bad points. They're just too similar to decide on anything other than price and the HFPP wins that contest hands down.


EDIT: Pictures courtesy of rsieracki
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The Hf dont like impact sockets at all. You'll run into clearance issues when you put bigger chrome sockets next to each other.

With that said I have an older set of HF trays and everything fits fine for the most part. Biggest issue was a few distorted pegs that wouldnt accept the square drive. Fixed that with a grinder.

Now I bought some newer ones to store a few extra sets of sockets at the house and they're worse.

I just labeled all mine with a marker. The stickers skip sizes.
 
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The Hf dont like impact sockets at all. You'll run into clearance issues when you put bigger chrome sockets next to each other.

I loaded the 1/2" tray full of impact sockets, both shallow and deep. No clearance issues at all. Also no clearance issues with any of my chrome sockets either.

It's possible that you're thinking of the older red trays, not the new black trays.


I just labeled all mine with a marker. The stickers skip sizes.
No stickers on the new ones. Etched into the plastic and then painted white.
 

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I loaded the 1/2" tray full of impact sockets, both shallow and deep. No clearance issues at all. Also no clearance issues with any of my chrome sockets either.

It's possible that you're thinking of the older red trays, not the new black trays.



No stickers on the new ones. Etched into the plastic and then painted white.

Hoenstly didnt read it that closely. Get some pics up
 

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I'd also like to see some picture comparisons of the two. Do the new HF trays have the same sizes as the Hansen, or does it skip sizes still?
 
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Peg "numbering" is now identical to the Hansen. Peg spacing is extremely similar to/identical to the Hansen, meaning the overall size is very close.
 

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oh for the love of God ill help the OP out with the picture request
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im trying to find reciepts for my old red HF trays to try and return them and get the new style as i still have some in the package

snappys in the front and SK in the rear
 
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Thanks! I wasn't going to bother going out to the garage, unloading a tray, and hauling it in until tomorrow. The internet isn't a life or death situation.

I'm thankful for the assist!
 

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Thanks! I wasn't going to bother going out to the garage, unloading a tray, and hauling it in until tomorrow. The internet isn't a life or death situation.

I'm thankful for the assist!

...i just happen to be in the garage and was going to start a thread like yours but once i saw yours i saw you saved me the trouble and had the same oppinion i did of the trays and figured an "assist" was a nice gesture :)
 
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Because so many people only read the first post, I'm going to repost your pics into the first post to calm people down if you don't mind.
 
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Hansen and HF both need to come out with a "extension" rack for very large sizes. For each row, I have 2-3 sockets that are above the max size. It's kinda awkward.
 

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what do you guys mean by "new"

I have seen these HF trays for a long time now

the changes must be pretty subtle
 
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what do you guys mean by "new"

I have seen these HF trays for a long time now

the changes must be pretty subtle

In black? For my stores, they're brand new. Didn't even have them last week. In fact, the one on the East side of town still doesn't have any of them. All of the new Pittsburg Pro stuff with the green patches on the packaging or tools has only shown up here within the last week and a half. It's entirely possible the stores here are just slow.

If by "long time" you mean a year or more then, no, you're thinking of the older version. Which looks really similar except it was red, skipped sizes, and was spaced too tightly.
 

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Checked my HF today, when I picked up a set of the clearance 1/2" deepwell SAE impacts. They didn't have any in stock, either. I really, really thought I was going to go with the Hansens. After reading this, seeing the pics, and (biggest factor) the price difference...I think maybe I'll go with the HF units. By the time you buy 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 for both hand and impact, the Hansen's really add up. And you've only spent $20 for the HF units. :)
 
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ya first ive seen of them all we ever had and i saw were the red ones.

as far as the "extra" sizes.. i have mine layed out in my top drawer of my 13 drawer HF tool cab... std on the left, met on the right... the oddballs hang out in the middle... ill eventually make a board the has the metal clipped variety on them for the odd specialty sockets, torx, allen/hex, phillips, etc
 

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I would pay good money if someone made a Hansen-style tray that was 3 rows, so I could keep my semi-deep sockets on the same tray.
 

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Damn - after seeing the pictures and reading about the different way the sockets mount, I'm probably going to immediately turn around and sell the Hansen $60 set I just bought. :( I didn't realize the Hansen trays mount the sockets upside down - why would I want all of the engraved/etched numbers on the sockets to be upside down? :(
 

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Damn - after seeing the pictures and reading about the different way the sockets mount, I'm probably going to immediately turn around and sell the Hansen $60 set I just bought. :( I didn't realize the Hansen trays mount the sockets upside down - why would I want all of the engraved/etched numbers on the sockets to be upside down? :(

Huh? Do whatever you want, but upside down isn't really an issue in my book. The only time I look at the engravings on my sockets is when they're scattered under the car during a project. When they're in the tray... the size is right there on the peg.
 

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Yeah but when you're trying to match a bolt to a socket, having the socket "right side up" is much easier to see the different sizes. Guess it's because I'm only 24 and been wrenching for a few years, but I don't know my sizes good enough to see a bolt and know the exact size.
 
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Hmm... that's an interesting point and another point against the Hansen's that I hadn't thought about. I'm used to having the sockets on rails and when I can't visually ID the bolt head size, I just go down the rail until I find the one that fits. Even with the sockets rightside up on the Hansens, I wouldn't be able to do that due to the peg sticking through the center.
 

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Can someone update if they see these for sale online? I don't have a store anywhere near me and have been holding off buying new trays for a while.
 

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Well, it's about time HF did this! The Hansen trays are overpriced, and the old HF's were just stupid.

Not sure if just keep my modded old ones (below) or buy the new HF one's. I sure would like to get all my SAE back in the rack. Can we see the larger SAE one's loaded?

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I just bought the SAE set, and a second metric set, during lunch. I can't help you though as all the SAE I have is are a partial 3/8" shallow and a partial 1/2" shallow set.
 

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I need some trays as I'm finishing the refurb on my box and have a lot of new sockets. I like the the Hansens ok, but I like the black HF ones a bit better--and like the $$ better. Good writeup! :thumbup:
 

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One comment. In comparing the OP's photo to mine it looks like the new one's are sort of short. Seems like 6mm is really small for a 1/2" drive, and then they only go to 20mm. ???

Obviously the Hansen is the industry standard, but seems like these don't provide a lot of range, or that range is skewed to the small side.
 

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These new HF trays has got me intrigued... I might just stop by today and see if they have them in stock. I have both the Hansen and HF (red trays), but never cared for the red ones but couldn't pass it up because how affordable it was at the time.
 

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I stopped in at lunch time, but they didn't have any of these.. actually, they didn't have ANY socket trays, and they always used to have the old red design ones. Hopefully they are just swapping them out.. i'd like to pick some up.

Can someone do me a favor and give me the dimensions of the new ones? and the part number? just curious how many of these I can fit / where I'd want to put them
 

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I stopped in at lunch time, but they didn't have any of these.. actually, they didn't have ANY socket trays, and they always used to have the old red design ones. Hopefully they are just swapping them out.. i'd like to pick some up.

Can someone do me a favor and give me the dimensions of the new ones? and the part number? just curious how many of these I can fit / where I'd want to put them

Where'd you go? Last I was in Berlin, they had a bunch of them. That was right before New Year's though...
 

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One comment. In comparing the OP's photo to mine it looks like the new one's are sort of short. Seems like 6mm is really small for a 1/2" drive, and then they only go to 20mm. ???

Pretty sure that those are 3/8" drive in the photo.

Can someone do me a favor and give me the dimensions of the new ones? and the part number? just curious how many of these I can fit / where I'd want to put them

Look at post #8 in this thread. Links are there to HF's website for the metric and SAE and the dimensions are in the linked pages.
 

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I'll take the Hansens any day over the HF garabage.I don't care how much they cost.
 

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Are the "new" black trays from HF the same size as the old red ones? That is the only real problem I had with the red trays, they are almost twice the size of the Hanson trays. They take up a lot of room in an already crowded tool box. For the price of the HF trays compared to the Hanson trays, you expect some "problems" from China.
 

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I have both the Hansens and the old red HF racks. Are the Hansens made in the USA?

Edit-- I just checked the website and the Hansens are made in the USA.
 
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