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Bold statement... for the Best Ratchet Ever Made

oldjacks

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I was at the swapmeet recently and saw a nice looking Proto Ratchet that I had never seen before. I picked it up and looked over its shinny chrome finish and up to date styling and marveled that this might be a really great ratchet, But then realized how much better can this be than the 100+ plus ratchets that I already own.

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A few of the ratchets I own

No I had better not buy it as this is what they do today. With what little improvements that they can make to the mechanism they gloss over that with over the top styling to try and induce you to buy this new style. Off the top of my head how many different styles of ratchets has Sears made over the years? And if you answer that question how many of them were a masterful improvement over the previous designs?

Proto-Plomb was for more than 50 years was probably as dull a ratchet as one could own. Now look them as modern as they can be. Just the ticket for selling more ratchets.

To give a quick answer, though, I would say that experience has proven that the best ratchet one can use is the one that is in your hand at the moment you need one.

Ok lets think this through what ratchet was so far ahead of its time that it made Snap-on, PLomb and every other ratchet on the market look like a stone age club? What ratchet if it were still being made today with little or no changes in styling (save for flex head upgrades and screwdriver handles) would still fit into the scheme of things and probably be the Gold Standard of ratchets even till now?

If a ratchet this good is not being made today, why then and what excuse do we use to reason out why it is not being still made as the company is still in business. I don't really have an answer to that question but I would imagine it was a marketing decision. They were bought out by another company in the 1950's and they probably decided this type of ratchet was too expensive to continue to manufacture.

The answer we seek is Blackhawk with their Freewheeling Ratchets. The ratchet with no teeth i.e. overriding clutch mechanism.

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Above the 7/16" Drive Blackhawk Bullet Set almost complete. Boxes are rather common but sets are very hard to find.

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Above four 7/16" Drive Ratchets (two of which are Freewheeling, one Bald Head and one Broached Tooth Speeder Ratchet) and last one 1/2" Drive Ratchet w/very rare cheater bar that fits into a hole in the back of the handle and extended the ratchet to 24"

The Blackhawk Company was years ahead with their design patents and they definitely had the market locked in with their far sighted thinking. Their 7/16" drive bullet set would fit right in with today's cars. Not overkill with 1/2" Drive and not too wimpy with a 3/8" Drive just the right size to get today's work done.

BTW I am only having fun here and not trying to be too serious as I do want to repeat the there really is no best ratchet. One only has to look at the ratchet I normally grab when I want to do a quick job and you are going to laugh it is a SK Round Head with a cheesy looking rubber grip on the handle.
 
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I was at the swapmeet recently . . .
No I had better not buy it as this is what they do today. With what little improvements that they can make to the mechanism they gloss over that with over the top styling to try and induce you to buy this new style. Off the top of my head how many different styles of ratchets has Sears made over the years? And if you answer that question how many of them were a masterful improvement over the previous designs?

If a ratchet this good is not being made today, why then and what excuse do we use to reason out why it is not being still made as the company is still in business. I don't really have an answer to that question but I would imagine it was a marketing decision. They were bought out by another company in the 1950's and they probably decided this type of ratchet was too expensive to continue to manufacture. . . .

The answer we seek is Blackhawk with their Freewheeling Ratchets. The ratchet with no teeth i.e. overriding clutch mechanism.

. . . Above the 7/16" Drive Blackhawk Bullet Set almost complete. Boxes are rather common but sets are very hard to find. . . . The Blackhawk Company was years ahead with their design patents and they definitely had the market locked in with their far sighted thinking. . . .

Great ratchets "oldjacks."

I don't have many ratchets and I feel I haven't found my favorite ratchet yet. I tend to be practical rather than buy something that looks kewl. I agree with you in many ways but I think you might be taking a "static" view of the market. It is actually dynamic, meaning that we "old-timers" eventually stop buying new ratchets and a new younger generation is always entering the market.

It's sort of like the "Pet Rocks" thing where the new generation has never heard of such a product and will buy it almost as enthusiastically as the last generation did 40 years ago. :)

I will add that you have sparked my interest in the Blackhawks though.

Steve
 
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oldjacks

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I might mention a few more details concerning these ratchets. They had one hand push-button reversing ---push the button and swing the ratchet to the right or to the left to reverse direction. They had locking sockets as there was a button on the side of the socket to release from the square drive. Reduced head diameter much smaller than the competition.

Negatives: had to be kept well oiled or they would prematurely fail. The Freewheeling ones were not user serviceable as they were riveted together. I don't know if they had a return to factory for rebuild program as buying another ratchet to replace your worn one would not be very cost effective.And lastly the chrome quality varied considerably over the years most often it was not of very high quallity.
 

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Thanks for sharing! Nice pics!

If this dosn't get you out there beating the bushes at garage/estate sales, nothing will!
 

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Wow, how many years have you been trying to collect those 7/16" drive tools? I'm guessing they are extemely hard to find, as Blackhawk was the first and only manufacturer to produce them. Clearly, they didn't sell.

Do you have any 9/32" or 5/8" drive tools as well? :D


Thanks for the post. :beer:
 
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oldjacks

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Wow, how many years have you been trying to collect those 7/16" drive tools? I'm guessing they are extemely hard to find, as Blackhawk was the first and only manufacturer to produce them. Clearly, they didn't sell.

Do you have any 9/32" or 5/8" drive tools as well? :D


Thanks for the post. :beer:

In the days when I was a more serious collector I had Snap-on 5/8" and 7/8" drive tools. But these were to me more primitive ratchets and I eventually moved them on to a new home. I still have a few Snap-on goodies but I don't have much reason to collect their products anymore. Please note the two SO Speeder Ratchets (quite collectible) near the upper right hand corner in the first pic of all ratchets I posted.
 
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therealwormey

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this is the kind of thread that made me join GJ,no china vs usa war and no smarta$$ comments or ******* matches,,thanks for reminding me why i keep looking at this site,,its all about the tools and this is a great example of it,1 tool but the many variations of what just one guy can accumulate,thanks for dragging out all those and taking a pic so that we could see.theres been times i thought about posting something but i change my mind cause it seems like too much trouble,,,thank you sir for your time and trouble,good stuff
 

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+3 :thumbup:on the Bullet box. Really sweet!
And ratchets without any teeth to wear out....hmmmmm
Guess we know why they stopped making it. Didn't flow well with the present business "model".
 
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oldjacks

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What is the ratchet that is 2nd from the bottom on the right hand corner with the red handle if you do not mind me asking.

It is a Viking Torq-Spin the first ratchet that you can twist the handle back and forth to tighten or loosen a fastener. It also works in the normal manner by swinging the handle back and forth. It has a patent on it and is I suppose a precursor to all the cheapie ones that are available today that do the same thing. This one you have to push the center through to the other side in order to reverse it though. The new ones reverse with a lever.
 
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oldjacks

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do you have the ratchet adapter for that set?

I am not sure I know of what you are speaking. Yes I have a size adapter that goes from 7/16" to 1/2" but I don't have a ratchet adapter that you would fit to a breaker bar. Blackhawk still makes or has made in the recent past a button reverse ratchet adapter in all of the normal sizes but I am not aware that they ever made one of those in 7/16" drive.
 
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