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Tuning a Chas. Parker vise

Packard V8

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Yesterday, I picked up a Chas. Parker 433-1/2 vise.

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The Parkers are considered one of the best general purpose vises ever built. However, like any cast iron implement. it was constructed with a few rough edges. Depending upon how much hard use they've suffered, most of the Parkers I've operated require from one-half turn to four turns of the handle to reverse the vise from opening to closing.

Now with one of my own, I decided to see how precise I could make one operate. There are three areas which can get loose. The first, the front collar which opens the vise, is a simple casting which was never machined. It was patterned with a curve on the inside mounting face which insured contact at the outer edges. I began filing and fitting the collar to the movable jaw. By the time I was done, all the as-cast area showing here was filed smooth. Inside the collar, where it contacted the screw collar, was as cast. I used a Dremel grinder to smooth worn areas and increase the contact area. Inside also was completely smooth and shiny when I finished with it.

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Where the collar meets the movable jaw, I filed the jaw flat.

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In order for the screw and collar to fit closely, the screw needs to be located in the movable jaw. The screw is 3/4" OD and the hole in the movable jaw is roughly 7/8" ID as cast. This clearance allows the screw to move in an orbit. To keep it aligned, I made a brass bushing to fit over the screw and inside the two spacer washers. With a half round file, I fitted the hole in the movable jaw to the same diameter as the OD of the bushing. This keeps the screw, the movable jaw and the front collar aligned. Without this bushing, the fitting of the collar to the screw is problematic.

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Once everything was in place, I used Prussian blue to check the contact between the collar and the screw. A few final licks with the file and the Dremel and there is zero play between them.

This Parker will now reverse with 1/8-turn of the handle and that bit of play is inside the screw nut. That's the way a precision vise should feel and none of the tuning is visible.

jack vines
 
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WhaT? can you simplify that? Just kidding. A nice creative fix! Sloppiness was the definition of those old vises! lol!
 

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Where do you learn how to do this stuff? My brain would go up in smoke before I had the wherewithal to decide or know how to make a bronze bushing and all that.
 
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Where do you learn how to do this stuff?

Same way I can't play a piano by ear. I've just always liked to make equipment work better. I spend way more time fixing old stuff than building new stuff. My wife can't always appreciate an improved Parker vise as an objet d'art.

Tonight, I repaired the trunk lid lock on my daughter's SAAB. The dealer wanted a week and $250 to order and install a new lock mechanism. She asked me to look at it. I removed the lock and remote electrical actuator. Upon examination, the end had broken off a little coil spring. I pulled out a couple of turns, bent a new hook on the end and re-installed everything. Took less than an hour and zero dollars. Did get hypothermia in twenty-degree weather.

Here's another slightly larger project - a Packard V8 which will be going in a custom Studebaker Hawk someday soon.

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Jack, I see you post a lot on here, but that's the first time I have seen any of your Packard engine-candy. What s shame; that thing is gorgeous.
 
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Jack, your tutorials and projects are FANTASTIC! I would also like to read more about the Packard engine rebuild. . . . And then when you put it in a Studebaker, would also love to see the pics from THAT project. :)

I've always had a fondness for the Studebakers, especially Hawks. My guess is that maybe fifty-percent or more of readers here have never even seen a photo of a good one before.

Steve
 

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Yeah Jack, quit teasing us! We want to see that hawk!. Ya think all the great minds at Parker Vise Co. all those decades would have tweaked that handle and hold down to take alot of the play out. Thats one of the nicest Parkers I've seen recently.
 

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Bringing this up from 9 years ago because I found a Chas Parker 433-1/2 in the junk yard dirt a few years ago, took it apart and put it into a box forgetting about it. Also got a small Littleton. Both were free. Looked to see what was in the box yesterday.
Checked the 433-1/2 today and found that I'd broken the swivel bolt but did throw it into the box. Measuring it's a 9/16dia. X 12 TPI. The wedge is there swivel base and the locking ring. Is the 9/16 X 12 correct? Mine is also missing the front dynamic shaft retainer ring so I'll have to Fab, one

Pictures later today
Thanks for advice.
Movin/on
 
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Your avatar is a Latham catalog. The photo of my Packard V8 shows the last and largest Latham ever built. What is it about Chas. Parker vises and Lathams and guys who like that weird ****?

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Well Jack: Chas. Parkers - Latham's and we are both on the West Coast ? ? ?

I maintain the Latham Supercharger registry on HAMB for the original legacy Latham's that ended production in 1965. HAMB is for traditional Hot Rods and Customs made from Pre-65 cars. Your newer model Latham in an early Packard would fit in there. I Think you may have posted it on HAMB. Bought my early style Latham in 1982 and it's my 2nd. . I've even got a NOS Latham intake manifold for the Ford FE which is the only engine I build (got 25+ of them).
So would you please measure if the swivel locking bolt is 9/16?
If so I'll search one out or re-tap to 5/8.
BTW thanks for the response.
Richard in Brookings Oregon
 
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… would you please measure if the swivel locking bolt is 9/16?
@Movin/on I’m certain that you’ve long since had this question answered, but for the benefit of others: Yes, the swivel locking bolt is a 9/16”- 12 TPI. Images attached.
 

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