Car tilter
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Uncle Buck
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I never used one, but I have plans for a dy self version that incorporates the use of steel rims. I wish I knew where mine is I would share it!
hrm2k
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have often wondered if they worked. If you use one, could you let us know ?
Quiksilver
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I have never used one. however, I dont think it would be for a car that you are driving. You would have to make sure that everything that is loose is out of it. Might work pretty good for a restoration though. But in that case why not just buy a rotiserrie?
HighOctane
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:O woah! I have never seen one like that before, I have always wondered about those things, they look like they could take a while to flip it over, defiantly give us some feedback if you get one 
RickP330
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It looks scary to me guys.... sorry, but I don't think I'd use it.
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jhn9840
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Wouldn't the fluids running out all over be a problem?
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eschoendorff
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HOLY PUCKERED ********! Good luck with that thing.
Uncle Buck
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Those are only intended to be used on ground up type restorations, nothing else.
malibu101
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I didn't see that on their website, nor did I see anything there about the fluid issue. I also didn't see any mention of a 3rd party saftey endorsment
Personally, I feel that there is something wrong with supporting a vehicle by 2 wheels (or where the wheels should be) instead of the designed 4. I'd also like to see a unibody car after being lifted with that.
Uncle Buck
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I didn't see that on their website, nor did I see anything there about the fluid issue. I also didn't see any mention of a 3rd party saftey endorsment
Personally, I feel that there is something wrong with supporting a vehicle by 2 wheels (or where the wheels should be) instead of the designed 4. I'd also like to see a unibody car after being lifted with that.
I suppose one could use a fixture like this for other than a ground up resto, but why would you? Clearly you would have to drain every drop of all fluids to ensure no mess, or other damages. Who in the world would want to do that?
mulepackin
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The whole concept causes me concern.
klswvu
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per website FAQ...
"What fluids do you drain? Depends on the vehicle. You need to worry about gas, oil, transmission fluid, and battery. I usually drain oil. With newer vehicles, the gas system is sealed, so you don't have to worry. Older cars, either tilt with side fill tube up, or rear fill with gas tank at least half empty. Otherwise, you need to drain the oil. With Auto transmissions, I just tape the fill tube if it's down."
http://www.accessiblesystems.com/faqet.php
all in all... seems like their are better access options
"What fluids do you drain? Depends on the vehicle. You need to worry about gas, oil, transmission fluid, and battery. I usually drain oil. With newer vehicles, the gas system is sealed, so you don't have to worry. Older cars, either tilt with side fill tube up, or rear fill with gas tank at least half empty. Otherwise, you need to drain the oil. With Auto transmissions, I just tape the fill tube if it's down."
http://www.accessiblesystems.com/faqet.php
all in all... seems like their are better access options
malibu101
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I didn't see that
Did you notice anything on the site about meeting OSHA/ANSI or some other safety council criteria?
klswvu
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I didn't see that
Did you notice anything on the site about meeting OSHA/ANSI or some other safety council criteria?
Not that I found...
Would there be any standards for such a specialized products.
TNToy
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I'm glad they mention that on their website.
My offroad rig has been on either it's side or roof 9 TIMES. Trust me. Fluids leak from places you'd never think of. Battery acid all over the engine bay, and gear oil running from all three shifters into the interior - there's two quick examples.
If you left a normal vehicle on that apparatus for more than a couple of minutes, you would have to pull the plugs and crank it to ensure you didn't hydro-lock it. Cylinders fill with oil remarkably fast.
My offroad rig has been on either it's side or roof 9 TIMES. Trust me. Fluids leak from places you'd never think of. Battery acid all over the engine bay, and gear oil running from all three shifters into the interior - there's two quick examples.
If you left a normal vehicle on that apparatus for more than a couple of minutes, you would have to pull the plugs and crank it to ensure you didn't hydro-lock it. Cylinders fill with oil remarkably fast.
malibu101
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Most quailty companies have their product tested by an independent agency to "assure" that the meet "standards" set by somebody. Usually known as 3rd party review. Granted those standards could be set low but neverless a lifting device must have a rated capacity to know you are in a safe operating range.
Anyway, as was said above, this device may have some uses but for the most part I think it's a great tool to hurt something. Yourself or vehicle.
ba614
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Looks like a great to tear something up and maybe even kill yourself in the process
Uncle Buck
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I didn't see that
Did you notice anything on the site about meeting OSHA/ANSI or some other safety council criteria?
There are no standards that OSHA has that cover a setup like that. We have many of the ANSI standards at work, however I do not recall ever seeing a standard for that type of apparatus; that is not to say such a standard does not exist. We do not have every single one, just a good many. If OSHA found one of those in use at a body shop or the like, I am sure they would first check ANSI, in the absence of an applicable standard, their only option would be to rely on the manufacturers data. The manufacturers data would be incorporated by reference, and backed up by the General Duty Clause in the event citations were issued. Assuming that the fixture has data from a manufacturer,engineered plans to back it up, and being used as the manufacturer intended; OSHA would really have no ground for issuing citations. Many people would be suprised at how often things like company safety manuals, or standards from virtually any acknowledged rulemaking entity are applied along with the General Duty Clause to issue citations.
malibu101
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Thanks for the info!
RockMonkey
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I'm glad they mention that on their website.
My offroad rig has been on either it's side or roof 9 TIMES. Trust me. Fluids leak from places you'd never think of. Battery acid all over the engine bay, and gear oil running from all three shifters into the interior - there's two quick examples.
If you left a normal vehicle on that apparatus for more than a couple of minutes, you would have to pull the plugs and crank it to ensure you didn't hydro-lock it. Cylinders fill with oil remarkably fast.
Sounds like you drive a Toyota. I have a buggy and I've taken great care to make sure nothing leaks when it's upside-down. Nothing you can do to keep the oil out of the cylinders though. I see no practical application for that contraption.
ovilla
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Not sure what this thing costs but a 4 post lift would be much safer on you and your vehicle. No fluids leaking out either.
Agreed. I am completely speechless, in an OSHA sort of way.
Uncle Buck
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That thing is just a dressed up manufactured version of the one I spoke of earlier in this thread. I think the plans I have called for the use of heavier materials than this one appears to be made of. For a home shop guy operating with limited resources I can see a very usefull application for a fixture such as this; (not necessarily this one; I think it looks to be a little flimsy for my liking) For someone like me who will never be able to afford a service lift, this could help alot. Instead of being resricted to laying under a car and restricted to the limitations of jackstands I could stand up and work. I would only see a realistic application for this while doing a total vehicle restoration. I cannot feature anyone using a contraption like this for any kind of routine type service work, nor do I think that was the original intention!
Uncle Buck
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Constructed of heavier materials, this type of fixture does not come off as rickety, at least not the one I saw.