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All you ever wanted to know about gasoline Blowtorches

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Well, a recent post on here made me decide it was about time to do a writeup on Blowtorches.

I've been collecting them for about a year, and learning everything I could in that time.

Admittedly, that certainly doesn't make me an expert, but I think I know a little more about them than a lot of people.

First off, I have a book that has a good article on blowtorches.

I'll try to scan it later, but for now the pictures should do.






Now, I have a lot more to post about them, but thats about all I have time for now.

Next post will be about how to rebuild one.
 
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I look forward to the re-build post.

I have 3 of these blowtorches, but have never fired them up.

I remember my dad using one to lead seal a soil stack in the house he built for us after WWII.
 

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Funny how that leather-washered pump mechanism looks alot like those found in Coleman lanterns and stoves.
Great info!:thumbup:
 
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How about one of these gasoline torches
its oxygen and gasoline mixed

Lol, I don't know if I can beat that, but....

I do have this kerosene torch.

I'll admit it... no matter how careful you are, that sucker is pretty hairy to use...



When this thing isn't pre-heated properly, you really do get flames about 15' long. Really.

Don't ask me how I know....



I'm working on the next post about the rebuilding now...
 
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You may not believe it but this is all that I found of mine.

Explain please?
Where did the aluminum slag come from? (atleast thats what it looks like)


And don't take this the wrong way but...
I'm guessing there was some operator error involved?

If your going to drop a picture with a claim like that, some type of back story would be nice.

Was there some type of explosion involving the torch, or was a fire started in some other way the caused the melting of your torch?
 

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Explain please?
Where did the aluminum slag come from? (atleast thats what it looks like)


And don't take this the wrong way but...
I'm guessing there was some operator error involved?

If your going to drop a picture with a claim like that, some type of back story would be nice.

Was there some type of explosion involving the torch, or was a fire started in some other way the caused the melting of your torch?

He had a fire.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94115
 
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I suspected as much.

No one was hurt, just stuff; it was scary when the 40 lb propane tank blew, then when the acetylene went off.

So not only did the torch not start the fire, the "safe" alternative contributed to it.

That ***** about the fire, and maybe it wasn't even meant this way, but to drop a picture like that without any explanation is exactly the reason these torches have such a bad reputation.
 
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Many people claim that these torches are just "too dangerous", and dozens of other similar comments.
And they will say you should just use a "safe" propane torch.

Well, I have some news...
Propane torches aren't completely safe either.

If you have a minute, I'd like you to watch a video or two.
Thats a bomb if anything is, just a regular old "safe" propane tank.

Here's another good video.
Paint cans don't even have any safty valves or anything on them, and there made out of thin sheetmetal.
I once read about someone who droped a full can of spraypaint in his basement, he was lucky to get out alive, the house wasn't so fortunate.
The can split, and the gas was ignited by the pilot light on his water heater.

The point I'm trying to make isn't that gasoline torches are perfectly safe, but that very few things are.
These torches "might" be more likely to have a problem than propane torches, though thats mostly a matter of opinion. And remember propane is under a whole lot more pressure than the gas in these torches. It's more likely to actually explode, rather than just burn.
So again, I never said that there safe, but just use the same care and common sense you use whenever your in your shop,and you should be fine.


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Alright, lets start with a few pictures...
These aren't all of my torches, but enough to see a few different designs and styles.

"Detroit Torch & Mfg. Co."
My favorite of my torches, I don't know the year but it's quite old, notice there is no wood or bakelite on it.
Everything is metal.
My guess is that it's from the 1920s
I finally found out why it has two valves, according to a book I found on google books...
"Two needles control the supply of fuel that enters the combustion chamber and enables the user to regulate the size, and quality of the flame. The upper needle cleans the orifice and cannot enlarge it, and the lower needle is a blunt-point shut-off needle, so that the burner cannot be damaged."
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'Otto Bernz" (later know as bernzomatic)
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Another Otto bernze, I think it's a later one, notice the stamped steel handle as opposed to the earlier cast one.
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"Dunlap" Steel tank
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"Handy Imp Torch set" the box is really torn up, but most of it is there.
The solder and flux is original
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"Lenk" miniture
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"Merit" miniture
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A small 2 chamber alcohol torch, probably made by Lenk.
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All (except for the 2 chamber alcohol torch) of my torches burn gasoline.

Some miniature torches burn alcohol, and some torches burn kerosene.
The kerosene torches are more common in Europe, I've never actually seen one around here, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
They do look quite different, so there usually not hard to spot.
Here's an example, (not mine, it belongs to "svampklas" on forgasarforeningen, in Sweden)
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It seems for kerosene torches there is no standard design, there are all different shapes and sizes, but all of the ones I've seen look quite different from gasoline torches.
But be careful, some of them might look similar to gas torches, I don't know for sure.[/quote]

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Now on to the rebuilding.

The first thing I do when I get a torch, is clean it, not necessarily polish it but scrub it down as best I can.
Then you will be able to get a better look at the tank, look it over, use a magnifying glass if you want.
Your looking for anything unusual, maybe a crack, maybe a bulge, anything you feel could weaken the tank.


If it look solid, then it's time to move on see what needs replacing.

Lets start here.


Unscrew the cap on top and pull out the pump itself.
Chances are you'll have to replace the pump leather.
Sometimes just soaking it in oil will be enough, but it's rare.

Generally they just fall apart.

I already replaced this one awhile ago, but it still needed some oil rubbed in to it.


If the oil doesn't fix it, then just take it off.
This is a little different on every torch, but it's pretty self explanatory, most of them are held on with a nut, I've also seen them with a snap ring.


If the old leather is in good enough condition to measure, make note of it's size and thickness.
Where you find the leather to make the new one is up to you.
I pick up any leather purses when I see them in the trash, usually at a fleamarkets.

There's a bunch of ways to cut the new leather circle, but the best way I've found is to take a good sturdy pair of dividers and sharpen a cutting edge on one of the legs.
Then just set it to the right size, stick the pointed leg in the leather, and cut out the circle wither the other leg.
Next, punch out hole in the center, and soak it in oil.

Now it's time to reassemble it, and start wrestling it back in the tube.

This is a lot easier on some torches than others, on my otto bernze torches the pump tube is tapered at the top, and it makes inserting the new leather quite easy.
Unfortunately, most of them are straight, and it can be quite a fight getting it to fit.
You just have to experiment with that, find a technique that works for you.

Next, take a look at the check valve.
There are a lot of different kinds of check valves, but most of them work basically the same.
Hopefully just soaking it in oil will be enough to fix it.
Don't be impatient, let it soak over night or more.
If it still doesn't seal, then it gets a little more complicated.
More on that later.



Another spot it might leak is right around here.

Take a look at it, make sure none of the seal is cracked or missing, and soak it with oil.

If it still leaks, find an O-ring the right size and use that.

Here's another spot.


This rarely leaks, the seal itself is actually made of lead.
But it's not impossible, I saw one where the lead was chipped out.

Again, an O-ring is the best thing I know of to fix it.
But you have to pick one that looks way to small, and stretch it out to fit.
If you get one that just slips on, it will squish out of the way when you tighten it down.


Alright, almost there, but there's one or two more things to do.


This is one of them.
Loosen the nut and the knobe, and take the whole thing out.
Now, separate the two pieces.
But be careful, inside the nut is a graphite seal.
I squirt some oil inside it before unscrewing it past the threads.
Next, it's time to do some polishing, just clean up the whole shaft. I used a buffing wheel, if you don't have one (I suggest you get one!) I guess you could use some very fine steel wool.

After it looks clean, just put it back the way you found it.

Tighten the nut as much as you can and still turn the knob without it being to stiff.
If it leaks, take it back off and replace the graphite seal. I've never done that, so I can't be of much help there.

Finally, rinse out the tank with gas a few times, or until it looks somewhat clean when you pour it out.

Once it's full, start pumping, when I'm testing after a rebuild, I like to pump 50 to 60 times, or as much as I can without it getting to hard to pump.

Then just let it sit.
Stick your ear up next to anything and everything that could possible leak, including all solder joints.
If you don't hear anything, you should be good to go.
But let out all that pressure before you try lighting it!

And thats, just about it for a basic rebuild, you can go a little more in depth, but I haven't needed to yet.



More to come....
 
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I suspected as much.



So not only did the torch not start the fire, the "safe" alternative contributed to it.

That ***** about the fire, and maybe it wasn't even meant this way, but to drop a picture like that without any explanation is exactly the reason these torches have such a bad reputation.

I figured all the regulars here knew about the fire, I guess I was wrong.
 
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I figured all the regulars here knew about the fire, I guess I was wrong.

Nope, I spend most of my time in Free Parking, General Tool Discussion, and the Classifieds.


Sorry if I sounded a bit rude, but with your first post I was under the impression you were claiming the torch spontaneously combusted or something.
 

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this is a great thread. i see a lot of these and have often wondered what would be involved with getting one working.

is it possible to elaborate on the risks and dangers? are there mistakes that could be made during rebuilding that could lead to an instant fireball?
 
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this is a great thread. i see a lot of these and have often wondered what would be involved with getting one working.

is it possible to elaborate on the risks and dangers? are there mistakes that could be made during rebuilding that could lead to an instant fireball?

There are some things to watch out for, but generally just a healthy dose of common sense is enough to keep you out of trouble.

I'll have another long post for tomorrow, I'll elaborate on it then.
 

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Very informative. Your how-to's took much of the intimidation out of things. I don't mean using the torch (I did that when I was 12 or 13 years old!), but in terms of doing basic maintance on them.

Also, in your opinon, is it difficult to resell them? I'm thinking of buying 3 or 4 and keeping 1 or 2 of the best ones. They want $25 ea, (will try to to bargain down). But worst case scenario, will I have a hard time reselling non functional ones for $25 ea? I usually use Kijiji to sell stuff.
 

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Very informative. Your how-to's took much of the intimidation out of things. I don't mean using the torch (I did that when I was 12 or 13 years old!), but in terms of doing basic maintance on them.

Also, in your opinon, is it difficult to resell them? I'm thinking of buying 3 or 4 and keeping 1 or 2 of the best ones. They want $25 ea, (will try to to bargain down). But worst case scenario, will I have a hard time reselling non functional ones for $25 ea? I usually use Kijiji to sell stuff.

I think you'd have a hard time selling them for $25 each. I had one listed on here for $20 for a long time, and had some interest but I still have it.

They seem to go for $15 to $30 for pretty normal looking ones on ebay. I'm not expert, but I looked around when trying to sell mine. My mom was going to throw it away, and I couldn't handle a neat old tool being thrown away so I snagged it.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74621

Now I'll probably just hang on to it, fix it up, and and use it, for something, maybe.
 

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I think you'd have a hard time selling them for $25 each. I had one listed on here for $20 for a long time, and had some interest but I still have it.

They seem to go for $15 to $30 for pretty normal looking ones on ebay. I'm not expert, but I looked around when trying to sell mine. My mom was going to throw it away, and I couldn't handle a neat old tool being thrown away so I snagged it.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74621

Now I'll probably just hang on to it, fix it up, and and use it, for something, maybe.

I still think I'm going to buy 2 or 3 at least and see if I can get 1 or 2 to work good. Then sell whatever I have left, even if it's for $10 or $15. I'm only working pt right now and I got to penny pinch until I get more hrs at work.

btw, by all means get yours working. It sounds like it needs a new leather plunger. Imo, antiques that don't work are pointless to have. Others beg to differ I'm sure though.
 
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I did a tool swap here and SOME joker sent me a picture of a really shiny gasoline torch he was willing to trade... What a huge mistake. I now have 6 of these things. They seem to go really cheap at auctions for some reason.

I'm using "Coleman Fuel" in mine. It's a little safer than gasoline but doesn't burn quite as hot.

The scariest part of these is the preheating phase where you have a pan of gas burning out in the open to warm the torch head. I've found that you can skip that part and preheat the head using a propane torch. I love these as "garage art" but I've used mine a few times when my little propane torch wasn't cutting it.

Last week, my wife left her teapot on the stove and boiled it dry. The burner got hot enough to melt the paint and stick the teapot to the burner. 5 min with the gasoline torch got it all hot enough to remove it.
 
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Very informative. Your how-to's took much of the intimidation out of things. I don't mean using the torch (I did that when I was 12 or 13 years old!), but in terms of doing basic maintance on them.

Also, in your opinon, is it difficult to resell them? I'm thinking of buying 3 or 4 and keeping 1 or 2 of the best ones. They want $25 ea, (will try to to bargain down). But worst case scenario, will I have a hard time reselling non functional ones for $25 ea? I usually use Kijiji to sell stuff.


I don't know about in Canada, but around here you will be lucky to even make your money back on them.

If I were you, I wouldn't pay more than about $15.00, unless it was in very good condition, or if it was rarer design. Like a quickstart, or a double burner.

Post back and let us know what you do.
 
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Great info, I've been wanting one of those old torches and now thanks to you, Kirbot, I know how to rebuild one.

Could you give a little more info on this alcohol torch:

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I've seen one like that somewhere.

EDIT: Didn't see post #18.....
 
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I did a tool swap here and SOME joker sent me a picture of a really shiny gasoline torch he was willing to trade... What a huge mistake. I now have 6 of these things. They seem to go really cheap at auctions for some reason.

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I'm glad it's being enjoyed

I've used Coleman fuel in mine before, but I can' really recommend it.
It's every bit as flammable as gasoline, so I really don't see how it's safer.

The only good thing I see about using Coleman fuel in these torches is that it burns cleaner.
It won't soot up your torch as much as gasoline.
 
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You can't post that and not expect anyone to ask.


So......
How do you know?

Well...
I tried lighting it up in the rain a while back, and I just couldn't keep the burner head hot enough.

It was working fine, but the rain just over powered it and cooled it off enough to switch it from the small hot blue flame, into 15' of fiery hot, unexpected terror

Yeah, I'm not doing that again....

No damage occurred as a result, but I about sh!t myself!
 
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I brought home an old Butler 100 today, somewhat dirty (some ***** picked it up with paint on their hands), and missing the soldering iron hook. I think the pump leather needs replacing too. I will take that apart tomorrow or Thursday and post an update, along with pics. If I can get it working decently I'll take time to detail it. Unfortunately the seller sold the other 19 he had to another buyer so I couldn't purchase more than 1, however he did set the one I bought aside without me even asking.

http://ladyjanestreasuretrove.blogspot.com/2010/06/1940s-butler-metal-products-brass-blow.html is the same model as mine.
 
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Today I pulled the pump cylinder out of the torch. It came undone easily. The check valve threads into the end, so I took it out and it appears ok, hard to tell if the seat of the valve is perfect, but it looked pretty good.

The bad news is the pump chamber appears to be a sealed unit. The check valve fitting is soldered on one end, the other end has the threaded fitting (cap) that holds the cylinder into the torch tank and the primer rod goes through. I'm nut sure what holds that threaded fitting to the pump cylinder tube. It looks glued or pressed on, no sign of solder, but I can't say for sure it isn't. Might even be threaded on, although it's not likely imo as the pump cylinder tube appears to be thin copper.

Regardless, I oiled, then oiled some more the pump leather through the little breather hole on the top. After some fidgeting it appears to be working. Enough so that if I put the check valve opening against my finger, air still comes out when I pump it, no matter how hard I try to block the opening with my finger.

So I reassembled the torch and with the tank empty I pumped it about 40+ x. I couldn't hear any air escaping/ leaking, however when I opened the valve no air came out, also when I removed the filler cap, no air rushed out of there either. That would lead me to think the pump doesn't work, but when I placed my finger over the filler opening and pumped it a couple times, air escaped when I removed my finger. Air also comes out the filler opening when I pump it with the filler removed.

It's confusing me to say the least. Even if the pump (leather) is weak or if there is a leak, one would think that it would build up some pressure in the tank, especially if the pump works enough that I can't block it off the check valve opening with my finger. As I pointed out I didn't hear any leaks and I also submerged the filler plug in water and didn't see any bubbles.

Can the tank (for God only knows what reason) only be pressurized when it has gas in it? Any ideas?

I think I'm going to fill it with gas and see what happens, it might show a leak in the fittings or the tank or maybe somehow (air or) gas will escape throgh the top of the pump.
 

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Today, I got some gas and tried out the torch. Unfortunately, there was a problem I wasn't expecting (no it didn't explode lol). There are 2 leaks in the tank, one is a 1/2" long hairline crack, the other area that leaks is hard to see, it's either a very small crack or a corroded area that has some small pinholes. I was very disappointed, especially because the pump worked good and there didn't seem to be any problems with the nozzle. I'm not sure what I'm going to do now. I don't think there is an easy or safe way to repair the tank. About the only thing I can think of is to coat the inside of the tank with the stuff they coat old gas tanks with. But that's probably not worth the headache, so I'll probably sell it for an antique or keep it for parts.

btw the tank is brass, not steel or tin, so I'm not sure why it failed, just old age maybe.
 

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brown laundry soap?
What in sam hell is brown laundry soap?

It is a thick bar soap used for scrubbing spots out of laundry. My Mom actually uses it, however the one she has is a dark yellow color. I suspect they used it on the torches like you would use pipe dope or teflon tape nowadays.
 
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Today, I got some gas and tried out the torch. Unfortunately, there was a problem I wasn't expecting (no it didn't explode lol). There are 2 leaks in the tank, one is a 1/2" long hairline crack, the other area that leaks is hard to see, it's either a very small crack or a corroded area that has some small pinholes. I was very disappointed, especially because the pump worked good and there didn't seem to be any problems with the nozzle. I'm not sure what I'm going to do now. I don't think there is an easy or safe way to repair the tank. About the only thing I can think of is to coat the inside of the tank with the stuff they coat old gas tanks with. But that's probably not worth the headache, so I'll probably sell it for an antique or keep it for parts.

btw the tank is brass, not steel or tin, so I'm not sure why it failed, just old age maybe.

Well that really *****...
It might not be out of the question to solder it shut, but I wouldn't trust it. Thats the one thing that can be wrong with a torch that I won't mess with.

I have an extra steel Dunlap tank that your welcome to have for the cost of shipping. I don't know what the shipping will cost, but if it's worth it to you, it's yours.

We would just have to confirm that the threads are compatible.
 

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Well that really *****...
It might not be out of the question to solder it shut, but I wouldn't trust it. Thats the one thing that can be wrong with a torch that I won't mess with.

I have an extra steel Dunlap tank that your welcome to have for the cost of shipping. I don't know what the shipping will cost, but if it's worth it to you, it's yours.

We would just have to confirm that the threads are compatible.

That's a very kind offer. I'm going to see if I can sell it (there's another for sale locally for $20 too), if not I'll disassemble the one I have and we can compare thread sizes. I'm not sure if the thread sizes are mostly universal or not.
 

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There are some things to watch out for, but generally just a healthy dose of common sense is enough to keep you out of trouble.

I'll have another long post for tomorrow, I'll elaborate on it then.

Common sense? Oh ****, I guess that rules me out. I too have always wanted to have a working gas torch. I do have an old bench top soldering pot with propane hookup, but have always wanted to heat my irons the old school way...:pimpflash
 

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Here I am, just bopping thru the threads, and so far I've learned more about old torches than I ever imagined. These actually ran on gasoline?!? Ho lee ****, that's wild. I appreciate the knowledge here, you 'specially Kirbot!

I'll do a little digging/self-educating on my own, and continue to follow this thread, this is fascinating to me, for some reason......:)
 

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Thanks to all, especially Kirbot, for this informative post.
I have a question about an old Turner 150 gasoline blow torch. It works fine as of last week, but the check valve leaks. Not much, but it does.

The check valve and spring move freely, and the pump will build pressure, but the pump rod rises and the pressure leaks off too quickly. It will burn for 3-5 minutes before the flame starts to quit.

The check valve has a cylindrical pocket in the top with some material I can't identify which I presume to be a packing or gasket material designed to create a better seal. The pump body has a ****** which fits into this pocket, and apparently over years of storage has made an indentation in the packing. That material has pretty much dried out, but still has most of its sealing capability.

What is that material inside the check valve plunger? I have seen references to leather and rubber, but the material doesn't look like either, and I am reluctant to mess with it until I find out. Would an o-ring work?

Thanks in advance for any help.
 
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Thanks to all, especially Kirbot, for this informative post.
I have a question about an old Turner 150 gasoline blow torch. It works fine as of last week, but the check valve leaks. Not much, but it does.

The check valve and spring move freely, and the pump will build pressure, but the pump rod rises and the pressure leaks off too quickly. It will burn for 3-5 minutes before the flame starts to quit.

The check valve has a cylindrical pocket in the top with some material I can't identify which I presume to be a packing or gasket material designed to create a better seal. The pump body has a ****** which fits into this pocket, and apparently over years of storage has made an indentation in the packing. That material has pretty much dried out, but still has most of its sealing capability.

What is that material inside the check valve plunger? I have seen references to leather and rubber, but the material doesn't look like either, and I am reluctant to mess with it until I find out. Would an o-ring work?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Some of our torches have a little "locking mechanism" to keep the pump down. Others have a little hole that you hold to pump, and some just don't have anything. The pump should not be rising at all while in use however.

The material should be leather, put a drop of oil on it and rub it into the leather, it should expand. I've never heard of rubber being used, maybe on the newer ones.



On a side note, get these torches while you can, in a couple decades they could be worth a little! We recently used two to heat up a leaf spring to bend it slightly. MAPP gas didn't burn hot enough.
 

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Thanks, Alex. I agree about those old torches. This one is at least 50 years old, had been stored for about 20 years and worked first time although not perfectly.

It is almost identical to the one here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brass-Blow-...87413374?_trksid=p2054897.l4276#ht_460wt_1232

The pump rod looks just like that, no hole, no locking mechanism. I suspect the packing is leather that has hardened up over the years, so have had it soaking in machine oil for a couple of days.

When time permits, I'll post a picture of the check valve assembly.
 
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Some of those old torches are beautiful pieces of art and I am sure they perform as well as they look.

For some reason though, I've never been intrigued enough to hold a can of gasoline in my hand and light it on fire.

I've used ox/ac, plasma cutters, air gouges and even thermal lances, but these torches scare me.
 

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I remember my dad using his paraffin (kerosene) version whan I was a kid to solder plumbing joints.

When I was in the scouts most of our camping lights and stoves were old Tilley and Primus brand kerosene ones. The lamps you had a little clip on holder stuffed with an asbestos wick that was kept in a jar of methylated spirits (alcohol) you clipped it around the stem under the vaporiser and lit it, leave to heat up and then close the pressure valve and pump gently until it either popped into light or sent a six foot flame out the top if it wasn't hot enough. The stoves had a little metal ring around the top you filled with alcohol and then the same game went on.

My parents still have their old folding primus stove that breaks down into its own tin for carrying.

Gasoline (petrol) fired stoves are not common in the UK, there are some imported colemans around but they are rare.
 

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I remember my dad using his paraffin (kerosene) version whan I was a kid to solder plumbing joints.

When I was in the scouts most of our camping lights and stoves were old Tilley and Primus brand kerosene ones. The lamps you had a little clip on holder stuffed with an asbestos wick that was kept in a jar of methylated spirits (alcohol) you clipped it around the stem under the vaporiser and lit it, leave to heat up and then close the pressure valve and pump gently until it either popped into light or sent a six foot flame out the top if it wasn't hot enough. The stoves had a little metal ring around the top you filled with alcohol and then the same game went on.

My parents still have their old folding primus stove that breaks down into its own tin for carrying.

Gasoline (petrol) fired stoves are not common in the UK, there are some imported colemans around but they are rare.

We still use pressurized kerosene lanterns in Scouting in the U.S. I have a few of them (an Aida and a Coleman) that are used regularly. These were never popular in the U.S. due to the wide availability of Coleman Fuel (naphtha) that is easier to light due to higher volatility. The only trick is to make sure that the thing is well-primed with alcohol (sometimes I need that too!) before you attempt to light it. The Coleman kerosene lantern operates (for the most part) like a gasoline lantern. With the Aida (or any Petromax type) the tank must be depressurized when shutting them down. In addition, there is a built-in torch to heat the generator, so alcohol is not necessarily required for priming. There is no torch on the Coleman.
 
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