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I am researching a floor for my garage so I sent Armstrong an email with some questions about their VCT and this is the response I received. I know many of you have VCT in your garages so I figured I would post this.

"Dear Chris:

Thank you for contacting Armstrong World Industries, Inc. about our vinyl composition tile.

In order for flooring materials to be installed in residential or commercial garages, the flooring material must meet the International Residential Code R 309 for Garages and Carports for one and two family residential buildings or the International Building Code 406.2 for all other buildings. The codes outline garage floor surfaces shall be of approved noncombustible material. Armstrong flooring products do not meet this standard and therefore should not be installed in parking garage areas where vehicles will be parked on the surface of the Armstrong floor.

In addition Armstrong flooring should only be installed in temperature-controlled environments. Normally garages are not temperature controlled areas. After installation, the temperature should be maintained at a minimum of 55 degrees. Most garage floors have had gas and oil dripped or spilled on them. This residue in the substrate will inhibit the adhesive from working properly. Automobile fluids, such as brake, transmission and oil, if leaked onto the resilient flooring can get into the joints of the tile and break down the adhesive creating a bonding issue and a possible installation failure. The oils and antioxidants used in the manufacturing process of rubber tires will cause a permanent yellow discoloration to any resilient (vinyl) flooring. Also, exposure to the moisture from rain, snow or sleet and varying temperatures will have a damaging affect on both tile and sheet flooring.

Once again, thank you for contacting Armstrong. I hope this information is helpful. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us again by e-mail at [email protected] or by phone at 1-877-276-7876 press 2, 3, 3. Additional information may also be found at our technical website http://www.floorexpert.com/ or on our http://www.armstrong.com/commflooringna/ website."
 
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Timm129

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Sounds to me like you need to look for another vender... Not many garages meet that critria...
 

thegarageguy

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I commend Armstrong for being honest. How rare these days.

What kills me though is how a major manufacturer can say that its factually not made for garages and some will still not believe it and get another VCT company to lie to them and sell them what they want.

Bravo for Armstrong!
 

joecaver

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Before I installed Armstrong I too did some research. I did not email them but found from their website that they do not recommend installation in garages. Their response to you just reinforces that stand. What they are saying is that since they don't recommend it then you are on your own if you install it anyway i.e. there will be no warranty by them for any reason. As long as you don't care, I didn't, then go ahead. I have had my Armstrong vct floor down for about 3 years and I'm very happy with it. My garage is not climate controlled. It gets very hot in the summer and cold in the winter. I've had spills on it and cleaned them up with no problems. I park hot tires with no issues at all. I've never had even one tile try to come up for any reason. If you like the stuff have fun with the installation and enjoy the look. :beer:
 
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roger55

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Why go with VCT when epoxy or products like racedeck are superior?
I did VCT in a previous garage and I would not do it again. To many problems.
 

Galvatron

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Why go with VCT when epoxy or products like racedeck are superior?
I did VCT in a previous garage and I would not do it again. To many problems.


Epoxy costs 10x the money and is not gauranteed to adhere properly unless your slab is completely clean and free of moisture, and still it will chip.

Racedeck sounds like a good idea until you walk on you floor for a couple months and sound like your tapdancing. It gets annoying. That and the fact that dirt and oil and **** (and bugs) get trapped underneath the tiles.

VCT is a nice product for DIY'ers. It looks good and you can take pride in your own work. I wouldn't do VCT in a heavily worked shop or garage, but for the toy room/clubhouse type garage, there is no better option IMO. YMMV.
 

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Epoxy costs 10x the money and is not gauranteed to adhere properly unless your slab is completely clean and free of moisture, and still it will chip.

Racedeck sounds like a good idea until you walk on you floor for a couple months and sound like your tapdancing. It gets annoying. That and the fact that dirt and oil and **** (and bugs) get trapped underneath the tiles.

VCT is a nice product for DIY'ers. It looks good and you can take pride in your own work. I wouldn't do VCT in a heavily worked shop or garage, but for the toy room/clubhouse type garage, there is no better option IMO. YMMV.

i agree....
 

roger55

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Epoxy costs 10x the money and is not gauranteed to adhere properly unless your slab is completely clean and free of moisture, and still it will chip.
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10 times the money?

Cost me over $700 to do my 3 car garage in VCT and that was over 10 years ago. I would estimate epoxy to be 1 to 2.5 times VCT depending on the epoxy system used.

If you ding epoxy hard enough to chip, then you would be chipping the concrete itself anyway.

I've used both and epoxy is far, far better for a garage.

If there is a moisture problem with the concrete itself, your kind of between a rock and a hard place with both VCT and epoxy. Vinyl snap-together tiles are then the only option.
 
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SC-Eric

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10 times the money?

Cost me over $700 to do my 3 car garage in VCT and that was over 10 years ago. I would estimate epoxy to be 1 to 2.5 times VCT depending on the epoxy system used.

If you ding epoxy hard enough to chip, then you would be chipping the concrete itself anyway.

I've used both and epoxy is far, far better for a garage.

If there is a moisture problem with the concrete itself, your kind of between a rock and a hard place with both VCT and epoxy. Vinyl snap-together tiles are then the only option.

I was kinda bowled over by that 10x figure... Doesn't it cost about $1/ft2 to do VCT? You can get a pretty nice epoxy floor for $10/ft2!!!

I was also surprised about the racedeck comment. I've never heard that before. Has anyone else had that issue? I could see that happening when it is really cold and the tiles are less flexible... Anyway, I like racedeck... American Made!
 

joecaver

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My VCT floor was about .75/sq ft and that includes everything I had to buy from masking tape to wax and the mop to apply it. The VCT itself was .40/sq ft on sale at HD.
 
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