before you blame HF!
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Lyaec350
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I think the first hint should have been the fact that he has his car supported only by the jack...
Deafautotech
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Damn! that reason why the safety are always Number 1!!!
kartracer55
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Chris Adams
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Only if the car is worth keeping, or if I'm actually going to touch the car, say, to put a wheel on it. That's when your shoulders/knees/arms are under the body, and when it falls.
nissan_crawler
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I'm missing the benefit of that changer. I can do the same thing in the same time with a receiver hitch, hi-lift jack, 5 gallon pail, and two spoons.
Oh, and I use a bubble balancer.
I have had tires balanced by several shops, and after 2-3 balancings, I do it with the old bubble balancer. Guess what? The shimmy goes away every time. Don't knock the old school technology, somebody with a brain and a bubble balancer can do a better job than your average tire reject with a $5,000 balancer. I can do a set of 4 (dismount/mount/balance) in 2 hours with no problem, all by hand. When I worked at a tire shop, it was about 40 minutes from car going in to car going out.
I recently mounted some 10 ply tires on 12" rims...no tire shop would do it, they all refused. It took me a while, but I got them on by hand.
Oh, and I use a bubble balancer.
I have had tires balanced by several shops, and after 2-3 balancings, I do it with the old bubble balancer. Guess what? The shimmy goes away every time. Don't knock the old school technology, somebody with a brain and a bubble balancer can do a better job than your average tire reject with a $5,000 balancer. I can do a set of 4 (dismount/mount/balance) in 2 hours with no problem, all by hand. When I worked at a tire shop, it was about 40 minutes from car going in to car going out.
I recently mounted some 10 ply tires on 12" rims...no tire shop would do it, they all refused. It took me a while, but I got them on by hand.
nissan_crawler
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I knew somebody that thought like that, then changed his mind after the car got a bump, the jack slipped, and was sitting where the passenger's feet normally are.
I offered to get him a stand about 5 minutes before that. 
Seriously, how long does it take to throw a jack stand under it, a minute? What if you drop a lugnut and reach under the car right whent he jack decides to blow a seal? This one of 1,335,675,123,254, "what ifs" that can ALL be prevented by a $20 jack stand. Ever see a smooshed human body? I have, it's not all that pleasant.
nissan_crawler
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same reason an air compressor and impact aren't.
Lyaec350
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Most OEM tire changing jacks are screwjacks (don't have the hydraulic seal to fail) and don't have wheels (wont spontaneously roll out should you bump the car) and they STILL have all kinds of warning stickers telling you not to get anywhere under the car... Rolling floor jacks that have both these weaknesses should never be relied on to hold a vehicle up, they are ONLY for lifting. Throw a stand under and call it a day, its worth the 30 seconds.
strizzy
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haha watching that video did the 'YouTube thing' and led me to this beauty
Um, I'm just a numbskull, but always use a jack stand or something just incase the car falls. Once I was driving home from work in the rain and I got a flat tire. I grabbed my spare and the jack that came with the car and started to change the tire on the side of the road. Little did I know the jackass that did my last oil change bent the rail on the car that the jack slips around. Well a car went wizzing by me and the car fell off the jack after I removed the tire, luckily I was smart enough to put the spare underneath the a arm before I started and that saved me from crushing my foot. From that day foward I will not touch a car without two forms of support under it. Jackstands are a must, if its on the side of the road, make do with what ever you have.
nissan_crawler
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***** is using 8 points on regular bolts and complaining about stripping them out.
Oh well, judging by that video, he'll probably find a good husband that knows how to use his tools. 
nissan_crawler
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A guy back home was trapped with a car on top of him for over 9 hours (by phone calls left on another phone or answering machine) before he died of internal hemorrhaging. I bet he wished he spent a minute grabbing a stand. He was just doing something "quick" and "wasn't going to get under the car" too. Instead, he got 6' under.
I have to admit I felt bad for the kid. His youtube profile says he's home schooled.
Stuey
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He likes tools more than girls and anything.
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strizzy
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He likes tools more than girls and anything.
I was almost going to compare him to someone...
milkovich
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That shoe fits more than one around here though so tread carefully! I'll be darned if the only thing between me and a slow death under 4000 lbs of metal is the hydraulic cylinder some communist slapped together at gunpoint.
The flip side is, yeah, if it's a pit stop and you're using a $500 brunnhoelzl and no one's under the car, different story. Otherwise, you're a knucklehead.
martell06
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he's got some top notch vids. just reading the titles was enough for me.
1-I did like the hardest trying tire mount guy! I don't know if I could get one on with a coach helping.
2-I guess the kid is outside in his dad's garage and not doing any homework or studying cause he already knows everything about school, too. They better get him a stainless steel fry basket ready.
old salvage
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Awww geee.Hopefully someone will steer him straight and put all his enthusiasm to good use.
Stuey
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Would be funnier if it wasn't so true.None of the mechanics I know use anything but a floor jack to change a tire. They use a "real" commercial quality floor jack, and most of the younger guys put the tire on with their legs under the car so they can raise the wheel up with their knees. Nobody really goes under a car without a jack stand, but I've never seen any of them bother just to change a tire.
Chris Adams
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Dunno, We got fired if we did that. Of course, real mechanics don't use floor jacks. They use air/hydraulic jacks that have a lock. You gun it up, and then set the lock. Safe even in an earthquake, unless you are at the epicenter...
Guys raising one wheel are not mechanics anyway. They are tire guys or helpers.
The illegals that work the cheap tire shops in my town take serious chances every time. They raise the car with a cheap jack, don't bother with stands, shake the cars, climb under them, etc.
However...
Most of them have a goal of being injured on the job.
The way workman's comp is structured here in the Golden State, it's an Illegals way of getting free training, lots of cash and legal status. Go to the workman’s comp retraining centers in your town. Play a game. Try to find the Anglo. Lots of luck.
I don't put anything under a car not on jack stands because when I was 20 I yanked a falling car off a buddy. Saved his ****, but to this day I get twinges in my back.
How much is 1 minute worth to you?
Many of the guys you ask, why did they not use a jack stand, about. The reason I have found from the medical part of my career is. DUH, they do not own one, do not see the reason for one, and it is wasted money. The other way they feel to waste money is to buy a good jack.
This is even as you are explaining to them, you are going to take them to surgery and remove part of their body. They are telling me, hope someone has my jack so I can get it fixed, they do not want to buy a new one.
Even for the safe crew who does not have locking jacks for that period of time you slide a stand under or are on the road and do not have one. Look at your jacks carefully, it is not the place to save money. A friend who had a hidden flaw break a stand, has great stands, he has HF wrenches though. A reverse of before the accident.
This is even as you are explaining to them, you are going to take them to surgery and remove part of their body. They are telling me, hope someone has my jack so I can get it fixed, they do not want to buy a new one.
Even for the safe crew who does not have locking jacks for that period of time you slide a stand under or are on the road and do not have one. Look at your jacks carefully, it is not the place to save money. A friend who had a hidden flaw break a stand, has great stands, he has HF wrenches though. A reverse of before the accident.
chad s
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Thats too much!
krusty the clown
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doesn't that kid post here?
doesn't that kid post here?
Wish he did; he could teach us a thing or two about tools....and fools....
chad s
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doesn't that kid post here?
Perhaps someone should invite him, if he isn't here already!
Stuey
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And say what?
"Hey, kid, we're ridiculing you b/c of that silly video you posted. If you love tools as much as you say you do, come to GarageJournal so we can school your ***."
chad s
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yea I guess your right, perhaps my intentions wernt very nice. I'm sure he has enough people poking fun at him, he doesnt need any more.
strizzy
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Either way, atleast this kid can entertain himself and has an imagination (and enjoys tools over video games). Something pretty rare with most kids these days...
Hes just an enthusiastic innocent kid and meant I no harm to him by posting his video, just enjoyment.
Stuey
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He's going to have to entertain himself a lot if he likes tools more than he likes girls!
filthy
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Ain't nothing like a bunch of grown men making fun of a teen with tools on youtube...
Thank god for the internet and this board.
Thank god for the internet and this board.
eschoendorff
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That kid vid was funny as hell, but I do feel sorry for him. He means well and is just excited about the same stuff we all are. We should cut him some slack. He's trying and will learn with time.
Here's to you kid!
Don't worry... he'll figure it out (I hope).
Stuey
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I don't feel bad about making fun of the video. The author obviously has a webcam/vidcam/digicam w/ vid. Why didn't he just either edit the toolbox spill! Or he could have just retaken the video!
I do feel sorry for the kid though. If he was in a public school, he would have the opportunity to put his interest to use. Play stage building, a robotics club, etc...
I do feel sorry for the kid though. If he was in a public school, he would have the opportunity to put his interest to use. Play stage building, a robotics club, etc...