Cutler Hammer Control Chucks (Size/Type)

[MILTON STEEL]

I have a vintage Cutler Hammer Control that needs a new chuck.

I'm looking for what size and type of chucks I should order for it. Anyone have any ideas where I should look around for it. It has some numbers, that I think are the Model # and Serial #:

Model: 65-317

Serial: 1327258

Any good info will receive positive feedback.

Thank you,

 

[Packard V8]

I have a vintage Cutler Hammer Control that needs a new chuck.

Hi, Mike,

I've been around tools for sixty years and have no idea what that might be. Cutler Hammer makes controls and switches used on drill presses, but I've never seen a machine manufactured by C-H. A photo or more description might be helpful.

jack vines

 

[MILTON STEEL]

Thanks, Packard...

I'll look for another name brand on that drill.

 

[Carla]

Hello, Mike,

Are you seeking info on the common Jacobs chucks used on drill motors?

As a generality, Jacobs chucks for drill motors are 'thread-mount', using 3/8"-24 thread for the 1/4" and 3/8" chuck sizes, 1/2"-20 for the 1/2" capacity chucks, and 5/8"-16 for 5/8" chucks.

The threads, of course, are 'right-hand', to tighten on the drill shaft as load is applied, in use. A common way to remove an existing Jacobs chuck is to put a suitable pin in one of the holes for the chuck key, rest the chuck on a softwood surface, and strike the pin with a soft hammer, left-hand to loosen.

New Jacobs pattern chucks are available from the generality of tooling suppliers. Unfortunately, most, if not all, of the new chucks offered are Chinese counterfeit products. You may be able to find new-old-stock real Jacobs on ebay, with some looking.

cheers

Carla

 

[bill300d]

Probably a Walker-Turner drill press like this
Not sure what chuck this takes.

 

[454ragtop]

Model and serial #'s sound like Delta/Rockwell to me.

 

[6PTsocket]

Hello, Mike,

Are you seeking info on the common Jacobs chucks used on drill motors?

As a generality, Jacobs chucks for drill motors are 'thread-mount', using 3/8"-24 thread for the 1/4" and 3/8" chuck sizes, 1/2"-20 for the 1/2" capacity chucks, and 5/8"-16 for 5/8" chucks.

The threads, of course, are 'right-hand', to tighten on the drill shaft as load is applied, in use. A common way to remove an existing Jacobs chuck is to put a suitable pin in one of the holes for the chuck key, rest the chuck on a softwood surface, and strike the pin with a soft hammer, left-hand to loosen.

New Jacobs pattern chucks are available from the generality of tooling suppliers. Unfortunately, most, if not all, of the new chucks offered are Chinese counterfeit products. You may be able to find new-old-stock real Jacobs on ebay, with some looking.

cheers

Carla

When you say drill motors, I assume you are talking about hand drills. Drill presses generally use a taper to hold the chuck. I have no Idea what the OP has but considering that he found some type of switch with CH name on it, I think that it must be a stationary tool. I have even seen a Milwaukee corded hand drill that used a taper to deal with forward and reverse instead of the usual left hand thread screw inside the chuck jaws.

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[MILTON STEEL]

This is what I need to replace:

 

[Packard V8]

The photo doesn't tell us much other than the spindle is most likely one of the various Morse tapers. A typical small DP would have a #2MT spindle. It accepts #2MT bits from 1/2" to 3/4". There are common adapters to allow an adjustable 1/8"-1/2" three-jaw Jacobs-style chuck to be used in a #2MT spindle.

A photo showing full front and side of the DP would help identify it and get you more targeted advice.

Have you measured the runout of the MT spindle? It's good practice to confirm the existing spindle is running true before spending big bucks on an adapter and chuck.

FWIW, a #2 MT spindle with an adapter chuck is not a precision machine. The point of the drill bit is quite a distance from the bearings, so total runout is usually more than a chuck positioned directly on the end of the spindle and immediately under the bearings.


jack vines

 

[ttpete]

You need a Jacobs chuck arbor with the proper Morse taper on one end and a Jacobs taper on the other. Also, a Jacobs chuck to mount on the arbor. Jacobs makes a standard chuck and also a premium chuck that uses ball bearings inside.

You'll always have a nominal amount of spindle runout and it will usually be more with your setup that has two taper joints. It's not as important as some may think because a simple drill press is not really a precision machine. Precision work is better done on a mill, and one first drills slightly undersize and finishes with a reamer.