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#&@%$ Efflorescence and what to do next?!

Shaotai

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Background:
New home purchased in 2003, in the Pacific Northwest area (Seattle - East side, in Renton).
We live in a small drive-in cul-de-sac with 4 other houses.

Problem:
Our garage is having an insane efflorescence issue. Too bad it's not crack, because I'd be rich with all this white powder!! Being fairly young at the time and a new home owner, I was told it would go away, I didn't make it an issue with our builder until it was too late. Doing some research, I learned about efflorescence and how/why it happens.
Interestingly, the other homes in our cul-de-sac do not have this issue except one, which is one house over. (They also have the same floor plan, not sure if it's related)

What I did/tried:
To deal with the efflorescence, we just kept sweeping it up, but finally in 2008, I got fed up and started researching. Found a product called Bone Dry, followed the instructions, cleaned up the concrete, used water to break tension, then applied the product. I think it helped at first. I gave it some time, but the efflorescence just kept getting worse and worse.
Then a few years later (2012), got fed up again, started researching, came across Legacy Industries densifier products, decided to do the HD39. Followed the instructions, really gave it a good dose of the product, seemed to help at first, but I'm still fighting with the efflorescence.

At this point, I don't really have any confidence in applying a liquid based solution. I don't want to waste any more money on a densifier, as it doesn't seem to help at all. I can't put down epoxy, as it will come right up.
Bone Dry and Legacy Industry wasn't able to provide any additional help.

Next steps:
I'm ready to do Race deck and just cover it all up. Before I spend the $$ on that, I thought I'd hit up the forum to see what you guys have seen that might help.
TIA.

(Photos to come...)
 
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LegacyIndustrial

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You did the right things.
It sounds like an above average case of vapor transmission.

Did you do a calcium test?


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Shaotai

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Back in 2008, a few weeks after I applied the HD39, this is what starts showing up...
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Here's pictures I took today of some of the areas.
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Woo~ looks like a line of coke!
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Where the tires of the cars roll over, you can see the concrete has "densified" and doesn't exhibit the efflorescence. Of course, it could just be the tires just taking care of it...

....Help...

(EDIT - Sorry, the photos are not showing up, these are from my Google Drive, so you can just open them in a new browser tab...)
 
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Shaotai

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You did the right things.
It sounds like an above average case of vapor transmission.

Did you do a calcium test?


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Not a calcium test, but the bag/tape test. Obviously, there is moisture that comes through under the bag. I was also able to see air bubbling while applying the HD39!
 

msgross

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jackhammer, vapor barrier and new concrete?

Might be extreme... My basement does it with dry-lok coated on it.
 
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mikec35

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I'd make sure water is directed away from the garage by way of proper land slope and gutters/ downspouts. Take a stiff brush and brush away the efflorescence and use Race Deck or the like to cover it up if you can't make it go away. As long as you have extraordinary amounts of moisture you will have to deal with the efflorescence.
 

Jsf721

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Call Sanitred and ask for tec1. His name is Randy I believe. He was a wealth of information of waterproofing and sealing. I’m comforting them for my issue as well

Background:
New home purchased in 2003, in the Pacific Northwest area (Seattle - East side, in Renton).
We live in a small drive-in cul-de-sac with 4 other houses.

Problem:
Our garage is having an insane efflorescence issue. Too bad it's not crack, because I'd be rich with all this white powder!! Being fairly young at the time and a new home owner, I was told it would go away, I didn't make it an issue with our builder until it was too late. Doing some research, I learned about efflorescence and how/why it happens.
Interestingly, the other homes in our cul-de-sac do not have this issue except one, which is one house over. (They also have the same floor plan, not sure if it's related)

What I did/tried:
To deal with the efflorescence, we just kept sweeping it up, but finally in 2008, I got fed up and started researching. Found a product called Bone Dry, followed the instructions, cleaned up the concrete, used water to break tension, then applied the product. I think it helped at first. I gave it some time, but the efflorescence just kept getting worse and worse.
Then a few years later (2012), got fed up again, started researching, came across Legacy Industries densifier products, decided to do the HD39. Followed the instructions, really gave it a good dose of the product, seemed to help at first, but I'm still fighting with the efflorescence.

At this point, I don't really have any confidence in applying a liquid based solution. I don't want to waste any more money on a densifier, as it doesn't seem to help at all. I can't put down epoxy, as it will come right up.
Bone Dry and Legacy Industry wasn't able to provide any additional help.

Next steps:
I'm ready to do Race deck and just cover it all up. Before I spend the $$ on that, I thought I'd hit up the forum to see what you guys have seen that might help.
TIA.

(Photos to come...)
 

Jsf721

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You are right

I guess I need to check that before I offer to help-LOL
Guy most likely fixed it or had learned to live with it by now !

Have a good day.

Last activity was 2016, this post is from 2014. I guess it could be worse, it could have been from 2013?
 
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