Electric Impact guns

[dink]

Why is it with electric impact guns I see people using standard sockets....chrome and such but on air impacts everyone uses impact sockets....explain this to me???

I mean I know with a impact and a standard style socket...that socket is more prone of shattering because of the force....but I just dont understand the logic people still use with electrics


By the way....out of the standard easy to locate at your local hardware store and such....not some specialty electric impact gun that only certain places or manufacturers make.....which one is a decent buy??? Is the Milwaukee decent???

http://www.milwaukeeconnect.com/web...product3_27_40027_-1_284530_281157_189339_362

 

[kartracer55]

My friend has an ingersoll rand electric, its probably liek 15 years old and slow but its better than doin it ":the old fashioned way"


If I had to pick it would be the high end dewalt corded one

Also, and impact is an impact, no matter what. Air impacts make more torque than an electric impact (usually) so people think you dont need to but its the impacting action that actually wears sockets out...

 

[dink]

That is one brand I will never buy is Dewalt....to go on a different path unfortunatly from what I have started...Dewalt has taken the Big box mentality to the rest of the consumers....the Dewalt you bought 10 years ago in quality is nothing compared to what it is today...keep the old and pass up the new

I will research the IR

What are some other common brands to look into for electric impacts...NOT air

 

[kartracer55]

milwaukee woudl be my seond choice... also hitatchi


DeWalt is good stuff, Never seena bad dewalt product. The entire woodshop is either powermatic or dewalt, and turst me, that stuff gets ABUSED.

Jim

 

[dink]

Yea....I havent heard a bad thing about Hitachi....Consumer reports gave them best buy on one of there drills....I was impressed and sealed the deal that I will buy there 71/4 circular saw when I get a house


And probably the drill too...I cant remember which one it was

 

[kartracer55]

Bosch woodworking tools are pretty nice, Ive used a few different ones nextdoor and I liek them alot... they hold up too

 

[dink]

Bosch is super nice...I just dont know if they are worth the extra pennies over Milwaukee

 

[kartracer55]

miwlaukee was bought out by the same company that owns ryobi about ayear ago... I havent used anything made isnce then but it still LOOKS high quality and alot of it is made in the US still. All thier cordless comes from asia. The good thing about dewalt is that thier cordless is made in mexico... at least its th saem continent lol

Jim

 

[KeukaDan]

I have Dewalt's DW059 and have been extreemely impressed, I also use the DW056 almost exclusively for all wood screws and lag bolts, it is much better than a normal drill. I have had no problems with my full 18v set of Dewalt tools along with my Dewalt grinder and I have used them hard.

As for Hitatchi, I have a very nice 3 hp router that has served me well along with a random orbital sander, both have been very reliable.

 

[dink]

Hitachi really came on strong in the last year and finally started catering to the small guys finally

 

[sberry]

I just bought the new V28 stuff, I needed the drills for a job so I jumped in. I bought 3 drills and some other stuff. In this class of tool I wouldnt fool with corded again, this stuff really works and the batteries are super, beyond 2 x of any 18v. I just used the impact to change a set of tires, not quite the zip of air but let it hit a few times and it works. Neat to walk around a car or truck without cords. The circ saw is good, all of it is. I have corded one also, this is at least as good, seems way better although I havnt ran them side by side but I am impressed. One of my mechanics used it all week, after he pick it up I see he used it most of the time. The batteries replace 3 18's, charge fast, one user would never need more than 2, they have charge guages and dont mind being topped off. We hit them at lunch when we were working hard. They aint cheap but it didnt take long to pay off, I figured we made even in about 2 weeks from reduced cord dragging. I rigged this temp prototype docking station, when I get the metal cut off saw and a couple other things I will build something more permanant.

 

[dink]

How does the v28 sawzall hold up for you???

 

[sberry]

This stuff really works and even though a battery is 120$ it replaces 3 cheaper ones. Really good power and I havent picked up my Porter Cable corded one since I got this. Same for my Skill saw and corded drills.

 

[nova65ss]

I have 4 of the 18 volt DeWalts and think they are great. I have had them repaired on several occasions but my guys are VERY hard on them. Dropping them off their 6 ft ladders you name it. They get used all day every day. It only costs me about 75 bucks to totally refurbish them at the DeWalt service center here in town. Can't say anything bad about the sawzalls, drills, and skill saws either. I also have the 1st one I purchased a 14.4 volt that I had rebuilt. It works just as good as the 18's, I use it around the house.


I can't say anything regarding any other brands other than I've heard the Hitachi impacts are very nice. They were one of the 1st to come out w/ the electric impacts.

In regards to using the regular sockets vs the impact sockets, I don't know why I do. I can't imagine an electric impact breaking a standard socket. Depending on what your doing I would think a bolt or lag would break well before the socket. I buy the regular ones at Sears just because I can return them for free when it wears out. They are also a little bit thinner and can get into smaller spaces. Are the dedicated impact sockets warranted for life?



Jimmy

 

[eschoendorff]

In regards to using the regular sockets vs the impact sockets, I don't know why I do. I can't imagine an electric impact breaking a standard socket. Depending on what your doing I would think a bolt or lag would break well before the socket. I buy the regular ones at Sears just because I can return them for free when it wears out. They are also a little bit thinner and can get into smaller spaces. Are the dedicated impact sockets warranted for life?



Jimmy

Generally, yes. And under torque, the impact sockets will deform instead of shatter. You do not want to see that first hand.

 

[dink]

Generally, yes. And under torque, the impact sockets will deform instead of shatter. You do not want to see that first hand.

Yes I do

 

[GearHead_1]

Off topic I know but this thread has strayed down this road anyway. One more vote for the DeWalt stuff. I've got a 2 year old set of about anything they make with the 18 volt set up. They get plenty of use, the only problem I've had was when I found out that the circular saw won't bounce when falling from an 18 ft. rafter.

 

[48548]

Hello, first off I am new to this site, but working on buidling a tool collection... I did buy the milwaukee v28 set a couple of years ago and I bought the impact wrench(bare tool only) and all of the blow molded cases for everything to get rid of the bag. Works great, I have 3 batteries and never need to swap for what I do. Only issue is to limit torque, on lug nuts so you don't over tighten them, which I bought a set of genius torque sticks and they work fine and the impact works great. I would recommend them over anything else. I even bought the v28 bandsaw complete kit and used it twice in one year, hahaha, I thought it would be cool to have, but not I am poor and wished I would have bought 3 snap on ratchets instead, but it has worked great when you need a hack saw and need a better cut then the sawzall.

 

[wilbilt]

Assuming you are talking about corded 120V electric impacts...
I have a Black and Decker that has been thoroughly abused and a DeWalt DW292 that is it's newer clone. Both perform well.

The IR models are probably the cream of the crop. I have never used one.

 

[Brandon_Lutz]

I love my DeWalt cordless impact. However, I use impact sockets on just like I would with an air powered impact gun.

I don't want to risk breaking a good chrome socket or risk having a piece of chrome coming off and hitting me in the eye and etc while I'm changing a tire on the side of the road.

 

[wilbilt]

Yes I do

It cost me a trip to the ER and about 20 stitches. I would have posted it on Youtube, but there was no Internet back then.

 

[sorcutt]

If you have the money for it, Snap-on. Yo can't beat it for the power.

 

[creatureofthewheel]

my cousin tipped me off to the snap on guy havin a repo'd set of cordless impacts last summer. 3/8 and 1/2, each with one battery and charger. AND a car charger for $250!!!! being anti-pneumatic for home projects i thought i would use em once or twice n sell em but i was wrong. they are so handy. but they will chew up a nonimpact socket quickly. my buddy used my heyco 19mm 1/2 drive socket to remove a strut nut cuz an impact socket was too thick.... it chipped the chrome and left a little scarring on the drive side. it haunts me.

 

[Mike83]

Amazon.com has some great deals on electric impacts like Milwaukee...I was looking yesterday. Take a look!

 

[Mr_fixit]

I have the v28 cordless milwaukee.. Not stong enough for me. Won't remove MOST lug nuts.... even hand tightened ones....

Quite a dissapointment for me. , Although I'm pleased with all the other v28 tools...