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iagsxr

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Anyone have one? Are they OK?

I'm cutting some small trees out of a fence line in my timber. Thinking about getting a cordless sawzall to cut the stumps down to where they can be mowed over. Biggest stump is probably 6" in diameter, most are much smaller.

I hardly ever use a sawzall and have a nice corded so I kind of hate to spend money on a good cordless.
 
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I don't have a Hercules, but I use my Dewalt brushless a decent amount. It needs a big battery to be useful... At least 5ah
 

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It’s just me, but I’ve never been impressed with using any sawzall to cut live wood

Tree roots, saplings limbs whatever

Maybe it’s the blade even though it’s “wood” it always just seemed to end up being a gummy slow mess

:dunno:
 

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I have the both the M12 Hackzall and the M18 FUEL Sawzall, and the M12 Hatchet is far better than either for limbing/etc.

The house I moved into last year is a mini-jungle, complete with 3"+ vines and all kinds of trimming and cutting back needed. It has been a LOT of work. I've been using my Ego 16" chainsaw and Ego pole saw, but the Hatchet has been great too.

It reminds me that I need to sell the Hackzall... poe6hb.gif
 

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Anyone have one? Are they OK?

I'm cutting some small trees out of a fence line in my timber. Thinking about getting a cordless sawzall to cut the stumps down to where they can be mowed over. Biggest stump is probably 6" in diameter, most are much smaller.

I hardly ever use a sawzall and have a nice corded so I kind of hate to spend money on a good cordless.
Assuming you already have a chainsaw, for stumps that small, I'd just sacrifice a chain and trim them down that way.


Stumps that small, not that hard to remove completely with an axe. Just chop through the roots, around the stump.

That will ensure they never grow back
 

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It’s just me, but I’ve never been impressed with using any sawzall to cut live wood

Tree roots, saplings limbs whatever

Maybe it’s the blade even though it’s “wood” it always just seemed to end up being a gummy slow mess

:dunno:

A chainsaw is a much better tool to use, but a pruning blade on a sawzall goes right thru live wood; the negative is it's not as smooth to use as a chainsaw as far as vibration transferred to the user.
 
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iagsxr

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Assuming you already have a chainsaw, for stumps that small, I'd just sacrifice a chain and trim them down that way.


Stumps that small, not that hard to remove completely with an axe. Just chop through the roots, around the stump.

That will ensure they never grow back

Yes, after posting this thread and thinking about it that's exactly what I need to do.

I have a Stihl MS170 and my dad's old 026. I've always ran Stihl chains on them, but then of course get mad when I stick one in the dirt.

For this project I'll put a cheap chain on the 170 and use it for ground clearing duties.

I do take an axe with me when I go to the timber, but try to avoid using it.
 

kody1234

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I have the Hercules brussless with 8am battery i use for roots and small trees off even with the ground.All i use is the Diablo blades,woorks great.you don`t want a chain saw blade hitting the ground.
 

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A chainsaw is a much better tool to use, but a pruning blade on a sawzall goes right thru live wood; the negative is it's not as smooth to use as a chainsaw as far as vibration transferred to the user.

I recently picked up a Stihl GTA26 for jobs where I had to cut a bunch of small limbs--something typically I'd use a hand saw or Sawzall for. Got tired of the Sawzall rattling the heck out of me.

Took the top shield off (as it always got in the way for closer, precise cuts), and honestly, it can do most of what a Sawzall could for wood--quicker and with less vibration.
 

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I have one and it has been very good. Buy the big battery. If you use it hard, the battery will get hot and it will shut down until the battery cools.
 

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$80 bucks for a saw made in China, or $200 bucks for a saw made in China?

Have at it. :headscrat
The people that had their saw priced at $200 had to make the investment into research and development which is a lot more expensive than reverse engineering a product that somebody else invented.
 

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The people that had their saw priced at $200 had to make the investment into research and development which is a lot more expensive than reverse engineering a product that somebody else invented.
Fair point, but Milwaukee has been using brushless motors for 12 years now and the sawzall has been here since the 1950's.

How much "R&D' do they need to recoup? Since they are made in China, wonder if the price difference is simply markup :dunno:
 

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Fair point, but Milwaukee has been using brushless motors for 12 years now and the sawzall has been here since the 1950's.

How much "R&D' do they need to recoup? Since they are made in China, wonder if the price difference is simply markup :dunno:

The tool industry, to a very high degree, stands on the innovations of others. The system is designed specifically to allow that, and while SO, Milwaukee, etc. etc. have all contributed, they've also all "copied" the innovations of others. It's a good thing, and all the "R&D recoup" and the other tropes people keep rolling out are provided for in the patent/IP law.

As far as price, there's certainly a brand premium for guys like Milwaukee. They also 'charge' for things like how cross-compatible their portfolio is, how well-designed their battery platform is, the quality-level of their cells (just because they come from the same company in the same form-factor doesn't mean they're all the same - I'd bet Milwaukee requires the better-end of the bell-curve from their suppliers), and any number of other things. Same of course for DeWalt, etc.

But even as determined as I have been to minimize battery platforms (up until now I've been all Milwaukee for power tools and EGO for OPE), I recently put a couple Hercules 20v tools in my garage: a disc sander and a jigsaw.

They're two tools I don't use enough to justify the $150-$200+ for the Milwaukee sander and $200+ for the jigsaw. I got both Hercules tools, a 4Ah batter and the charger for $150. And for the project I needed them for, they worked great. :dunno:

So it's a new category for me. Don't use often, but want good performance, brushless, 5/3 warranty, etc., and Hercules now fits that bill and has been around long enough that I (sorta) trust the longevity/care-and-feeding HF will give the battery platform. At least enough vs. the prices they're asking.

There are a couple other things I would have gone Hercules for if they'd been available when I was (relatively recently) buying: The compact/trim router ($70 vs. $200 for M18) and the right-angle grinder ($60 vs. $200+). The only thing left for me might be the portable band saw ($135 vs. $270-$350).

I have the M18 FUEL Super Sawzall I got to do a bunch of demo in my new house. Even catching it on a bundle with a new Forge battery, its effective price was $200+ where the Hercules is $75. I beat the **** out of the Sawzall during the demo stuff, but it has mainly sat since. I have zero doubt the FUEL is the better tool but I'm pretty sure all the jobs I needed would have gotten done just fine.

My point is staying pure to Milwaukee means hundreds of dollars for tools that don't get used a lot. I'm sure all of those tools above are better in their Milwaukee form vs. Hercules, but I think Hercules is better than "Good Enough" performance too. The 5 year cordless tool and 3 year battery warranty with walk-in/walk-out is pretty strong too...
 
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