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wbrian63

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I've got another thread running on my workshop/garage build out currently in progress, but I thought I might add another one for the stuff close to home.

I live in a patio home with a detached 2-car garage. The house is a corner lot, so instead of the west wall of my house being the primary view to the east from a neighbor, I've got a swath of land about 90' long and 25' wide (from curb edge to lot boundary). Not all of that is usable, of course.

About 15 years ago, I fenced in about 10' of the width, starting at the front the garage and going all the way back to the end of the property. The fence was 7' tall. Our deed restrictions don't allow for separate structures, so I carefully constructed a shed that used the fence for the west wall, the garage/house for the east wall. I put standard corrugated galvanized roofing in with a 2x6 roof structure. It was OK for storing things like my old jet ski, utility trailer, etc, but it was never weather-tite. The entire north end was a gate that swung out using an electric gate opener. (First made from a system I crafted using a linear actuator designed to move old 5-meter satellite dishes, then later using a off-the-shelf operator). The headroom was just above my 5-8' scalp. The shed was 45' deep.

Hurricane Ike made short work of that shed, ripping a number of roofing sheets off, but thankfully not collapsing the structure. It was already in bad shape anyway - the direct west exposure combined with a decade or more of benign neglect had taken its toll.

The entire fence needed to be replaced, so we got the OK to build it further out and bigger. I don't know if we would have been successful if we were the first in our neighborhood to try this construction, but once others did (don't know if they had the OK), and the HOA didn't force the removal of the fences, that paved the way for ours.

So, the new fence went in - 8' tall, using 2-1/2" sch80 galvanized pipe for poles. Inside the perimeter of the fence, we built a larger shed. This one is 12' wide and 65' long. Key to the process, once again, was keeping it away from the prying eyes of the HOA. Also, as the saying goes, "out of sight, out of mind" - we don't have to worry about people breaking in as much when they have no idea what exists.

Here's a view of the front of the shed:

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The only "tells" are the handle at the left edge, and the two paths that lead to the inside. We periodically park cars on this spot when there are visitors, etc, and the HOA never has asked what they're for...

There's a gate to the right for storage of the rollaround trash cans we have to use here in Houston. I built the door short, because I initially intended only on having a "cubby" behind the door for the trash bin. However, having access to the side yard without having to walk all the way around the house has proven too useful to enclose the space behind the door.

Pressing a button in the garage, or using a keypad available inside the gate unlatches the door. You physically have to pull it open:

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The door sections are about 6 feet wide each, and are supported by heavy-duty 6" ball-bearing hinges at the pivot, and a barn-door track at the top. The actual door structure is just milled 2x4 stock (to get some consistent dimensions) with pressure treated 1/2" plywood for a face, to provide diaphragm strength and a barrier to the weather. The pickets are just screwed to the door.

The advantage of a folding door like this is that we don't have to worry about supporting a 12' wide door, although the corner post is a 4" galvanized pipe sunk about 5' in concrete. The bigger advantage is when we have to use the shed with any sort of serious wind. a 12' x 6' door is a gigantic sail. No gate operator can handle the loads created by wind catching a door of that size. With the fold-up aspect of the door, once fully open, any wind pushing against the door actually causes it to bind in the track rather than close. Very handy for one-man operation.

The lock for the door is a simple magnetic catch:

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Run on 24v, it provides 100# of latching force. Since there's no place to easily insert and use a lever to force the door, this is more than enough. Fortunately, the natural resting location for the door once closed is about 1/2" shy of meeting the latch, so when you activate the release, the door opens just a hair. Keeps you from having to rush to get the door open before the open cycle times out and the latch comes back on.

On the original shed, I just attached a 2x6 pressure treated header to the brick with some tap-con screws. For this structure, I wanted something more durable, but I didn't want to put any load on the bricks. The solution for clear span of 12' came with 2" square tube with a 1/4" wall. 12' was settled on for width (and yes, I wish I had a little more - 1 more foot would be wonderful) because steel like this comes in 24' lengths, and the supplier will cut long sticks in half for free. We put some 2" angle iron on the foundation, attaching it with drilled 3/8" anchors every 2 feet. On the angle iron, we stood a simple 2x4, attaching it to the brick with a couple of tap-con screws, just to keep it in place vertically. On top of the 2x4, we sat the tube.

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To be continued...
 
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wbrian63

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The 2x2 metal beams are 48" on center. Across them, we laid 2x4 sleepers which are bolted to the beams using carriage bolts (no sharp edges to cut your head) from below, countersinking the nuts from above to make the installation surface nice and flat. The 2x4's are spaced about 3' on center.

The roof of the shed is metal, white in color. Purchased it from Mueller buildings down in Rosenberg.

We got some custom flashing to seal the roof against the brick wall. It's stamped to interlock with the roof profile and had a vertical section about 10" wide which would ordinarily slip under the siding of whatever vertical wall the roof was abutting. In our case, that wall is brick. I took the flashing to a metal shop and had them trim off about 6" and put a 1/2" 90-degree bend on the edge. After the roof was down, I built a little "trolly" which was really just a piece of plywood with the appropriate bracing for stiffness and offset. We sat the trolly on the roof and used a circular saw with a diamond blade to cut a 5/8" deep notch in the face of the bricks all the way down the 65' length of the shed. We injected some non-hardening roof sealant from a caulk tube into the groove as we installed each piece of flashing, then further caulked the groove after the flashing was in place. We used tap-con screws to hold the flashing to the brick. So far, even with some monsoon-level rains, we've only had a few trickles of water down the brick inside the shed.

The former shed was an absolute oven in the summer. We solved this problem with a combination of a white roof surface, and some "double-bubble" insulation. It's only 1/4" thick, but it's foil-faced on the roof side, and boy does it work well.

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Also installed 2 vent fans that are solar powered. The first is on the wall just by the front door, the other is all the way in the back. You can see one in the picture of the fully open shed door:

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(Yes, I do need to put a screen over the inlet to the fan.) I figured with electricity costs, and the good deal I got on the fans, that these will pay for themselves in about 5 years.

The outside of the shed is covered with Hardi-plank. It was a real pain installing this stuff and keeping it straight over a 65' run. There are a few dips in the view, but overall, it looks fine. As Tin has said repeatedly, "it's just a shed."

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The pitch of the roof is very slight - only about 8" over the 12' span. As a result, the water wicks around the edge and drips down the front of the shed, leaving dirt trails. I plan to install some gutters this summer, partly to limit the dirt streaking, and also to move the considerable amount of water that comes off this roof (780 sq ft, but also serves as the watershed for 1/4 of the garage, and 1/4 of the house, which is another 600 or so of roof) away from the wall base of the structure. We actually get some wicking of moisture into the crushed-granite floor in really wet weather.
There's enough space to store 3 cars, nose to tail, plus some more room for a bit of storage, etc in front, and on the side.

The PVC pipe seen about half way up the wall is the drain for gutters that line the atrium between the house and the garage. That space is only 8' wide x 20' long, and the water that can collect in that area during a strong rain is dramatic. My solution ages ago was to move the downspout from the gutter to the outside of the wall, and so it goes into a 2 1/2" pvc pipe, across the ceiling of the shed, down the wall and out. So far, so good.

Right now, we've got 3 cars and a motorcycle in the space. The bike is a 2000 Buell Blast. OK for puttering around town. Right now, it's kinda down for the count, I think the alternator is kaput. Here's where an extra foot of shed width would be handy. Squeezing by that bike is a pain (unless you're skinny).

Car #1 viewed from the back is a 2003 Infiniti M45. Here's the frontwards view:

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Car #2 is Tin's 1995 Acura Legend. We just had this car repainted, and the 6spd manual ****** from the black Acura in the first images of my other thread (http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60859) will eventually wind up in this car. This car has a tan interior that has seen better days. Oddly, the other car, even though trashed on the outside, has a pristeen black interior, plus it's an LS-level trim, where the red car was only an L. We're going to swap the interiors as well. A red car with a black interior should look really sharp...

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Car #3 is my baby. 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SEL 6.9. This is car #521 of 7,380 made. It only has slightly more than 65k miles. It unfortunately is languishing in the shed, only being started every few weeks. This car is a true euro-spec car, the 6.9 was only available for sale here in the US starting in 1977. That means 286hp and 405ftlbs of torque. It's a real blast to drive. Not as fast as most of the other cars in our fleet, but for it's time, a truly spectacular automobile.

If you're interested, more on the 6.9 can be found at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_450SEL_6.9.

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Here is a picture of the car from the previous owner.

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The rims are original AMG Penta's - but I'm not partial to them. I've managed to find a set of 15" original "bundt" style rims that will be put back on the car. (They originally came with 14" bundts, but finding decent 14" tires for a car capable of 140+mph is nearly impossible).

Once we get the Acura back on the road, the 6.9 is the next one to get some TLC. It needs a new water pump, and the front suspension needs a complete rebuild. I've got all the parts, just none of the time...

Once on the road, it will sport these nice plates:

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The balance of the car fleet:

2002 Toyota Tundra:

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It unfortunately doesn't get covered storage, but once the shop is done, we'll probably keep it there.

And inside the standard 2-car garage:

My daily driver - 2002 Mercedes Benz S55 AMG sitting besides Tin's funmobile - a 2001 Honda S2000.

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The garage is just run-of-the-mill, but I do have some cool 50's era storage cabinets:

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These came from my Great Aunt's house. She had them in her wash-room. They're really cool. The larger cabinets have florescent lights in the bottom to shine down on the cabinet top, and there's a glass panel in the bottom of the cabinet to allow the light upwards into the cabinet as well. The company that made them is still in business, although they've moved to other lines of product.

Here's a vintage ad I managed to scrounge up on eBay:

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Toolbox - nothing fancy - 18-year old Craftsman. Adjacent to a handy storage item - an old locker - I think from somewhere where you'd only store small things - it has 12 doors, all the same size:

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That's all I've got to show for now...
 

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Wow, very impressive use of space. Does the "shed" go the entire width of your backyard? Any complaints from the neighbors? My parents live in a patio home in the Woodlands and if they did something like that, I'm sure the neighbors would complain...but again it's the Woodlands.
 

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Wow, that is pretty slick! I can see how that would be mistaken as a fence :thumbup:
 
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wbrian63

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Wow, very impressive use of space. Does the "shed" go the entire width of your backyard? Any complaints from the neighbors? My parents live in a patio home in the Woodlands and if they did something like that, I'm sure the neighbors would complain...but again it's the Woodlands.

The shed runs the length of the house atrium and garage, 65-feet. It's really on the side of the house, not in the back.

The shed is only visible when the door is open, and that's only when we need to move something in or out - there's a man door at the opposite end. We kept the roofline purposely low to prevent it being viewed by the outside world. This was done partly to keep shy of the HOA, partly to not irritate the neighbors with an obviously commercial structure, and partly to hide it from the rest of the world to ward off potential burglars.

What the neighbors can't see, the neighbors can't complain about.

Just as we were finishing the shed, a neighbor in the next block erected a separate storage shed on his side yard, and it stands at least 5-feet above his fence. It's a more traditional structure, with wood trim, composite shingles, etc. I don't know (and don't care, as it looks presentable) whether they got HOA approval.

The HOA is tweaked anyway - they allowed my neighbor 2 houses to the east to PAINT his driveway. He used the big-box store garage paint. Problem was/is he used to own a couple of old diesel cars (first a Puegeot, then a W126-chassis Mercedes) that leaked copious amounts of ink-black oil onto his driveway. Installation method involved a simple pressure wash before applying the paint. Needless to say, it now looks like complete ****. Did he have permission - no. Did the HOA force him to have it removed (which they should have) - no. Did the HOA pay to have it removed (which they have the power to do) - no.

However, when I get cited for having a trash bag out on the curb for more than 10 minutes (lawn service simply won't listen that they need to leave the bag in the back yard), and I bring up the issue of all the other code violations, I get no favored ears. Their answer is "Other possible code violations are worked individually from your issue." They won't reveal whether they're attempting to do anything at all, which, to me, given the outcome, means they're doing nothing at all...
 
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Agreed. It's been my experience that organizations like this are populated by people that are too chicken (or have too many skeletons in their closet) to run for public office.

Lot's of little Napoleons and Hitlers...

My most recent go-round with them was a recurring citation for failure to keep my yard trimmed. I've had the lawn professionally serviced for more than 10 years; they cut the yard on Wednesdays.

The regular Nazi patrol for code violations hits my part of the subdivision on Tuesdays - the day that the yard looks the worst.

The first time I got the notice, I politely called them and explained the yard cutting cycle and suggested if they looked on Wednesday, they'd see everything set to rights.

The second time I got the notice, I asked "politely" if they had bothered to notice that from week to week, even on Tuesday, that the yard hadn't gotten any worse? Didn't it seem strange that with a week separating the visit that there was no change in the appearance? If the yard wasn't being cut, it would look worse on week 2 than it did on week 1.

The third time I got the notice I told them - not so nicely - that if I got one more notice, I was going to leave the clippings that came from the yard mowing in the dark plastic bag out in the heat for a week - just to make sure the grass had the chance to get really rancid, and then I was going to drive to their offices and spread it out in a nice thick mat in their lobby...

Never did get another notice.

BTW - these notices came one every 2 weeks over a 6 week period.
 
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Love the way you rigged-up the garage door. I wish I would've seen this a couple weeks ago. Would've looked great on my carport turned garage. Any chance you can post some pics of the hinges and slider configuration? Thanks!
 
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wbrian63

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Thanks. The car is a wonder to drive, especially given that it's 34 years old. Gobs of torque = impressive effortless acceleration. The hardest part to get used to is the 3-speed transmission. As I get on the freeway, I keep waiting for it to shift again...

The door hardware is nothing fancy. I got this from WW Grainger:

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4PE55?Pid=search

Here's the trolley that fits the track - I attached the plate to the backside of the door and cut a pocket into the door stile behind the picket to allow me to adjust the trolley bolt to get the door to hang right. The pickets are screwed in place, so adjustments are fairly easy:

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4PE56?BaseItem=4PE55

And the hangars used to attach the track to the door header:

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/1XMY4?BaseItem=4PE56

The hinges I got from Home Depot. They have bearings between the leaves that better support the weight of the door. The were about $15/20 each.

Doing a door like this isn't without compromise. First - try as I might, I could never figure out how to automate the operation. Opening the door requires the middle to pop out, you can't just pull laterally on the handle. That's no big deal if you use a gate operator mounted on the hinge side of the door - it will push outward on the door. However, as the door hinges open, the outward push needs to convert to a lateral push to cause the door to fold up - just continuing to push outward causes the trolley to bind in the track. Likewise, closing the door requires a lateral tug on the end of the door, which then must convert to a pull on the hinged section to pull the door shut.

The only thing I could figure out that would ever work reliably would be a combination of a pivoting gear at the jamb side of the door, along with a linear gear along the track. The pivot gear would handle the push-pull of the section attached to the jamb. The linear gear would handle tugging the trolley up and down the track. Far too expensive to implement, as the speed of the linear gear would need to increase as the door opens to keep up with the movement of the door. Since we don't use it as a "garage" in the strictest sense, it's OK to get out of the car to open the door.

We thought about having two swing-out doors, but the door on the left side would have to swing open past 90 degrees to allow clearance to drive vehicles in and out, which puts extra stress on an operator. The door on the old 10-foot wide shed was dangerous in any sort of serious winds - had to have a human hold it in place. It would be no effort at all to completely destroy an opener with a solid door if the right gust of wind came along. Uncontrolled door movement can damage cars, and injure humans, neither of which is a desirable outcome.

The bi-fold action is somewhat self-locking in the open position. We still have to be wary of using the door in high winds, but since it's hand-operated, we're able to control it a bit better.

At least with the electric latch, we can gain access from the main door without having to walk the 130 feet (65 feet to the man door in the back, then 65 feet through the building to the front) to unlatch the door, only to have to repeat the trip to lock everything back.

I'll take some detailed pictures of the installation and post them shortly.

Thanks for the interest and compliments.
 

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Awesome project, big thumbs up!

What size and what are you plans for those AMG pentas? I think they are awesome period correct wheels. I have a 74 280C, wish it had that 6.9 power!

Again, great ideas and build.
 

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Agreed. It's been my experience that organizations like this are populated by people that are too chicken (or have too many skeletons in their closet) to run for public office.

Lot's of little Napoleons and Hitlers...

My most recent go-round with them was a recurring citation for failure to keep my yard trimmed. I've had the lawn professionally serviced for more than 10 years; they cut the yard on Wednesdays.

The regular Nazi patrol for code violations hits my part of the subdivision on Tuesdays - the day that the yard looks the worst.

The first time I got the notice, I politely called them and explained the yard cutting cycle and suggested if they looked on Wednesday, they'd see everything set to rights.

The second time I got the notice, I asked "politely" if they had bothered to notice that from week to week, even on Tuesday, that the yard hadn't gotten any worse? Didn't it seem strange that with a week separating the visit that there was no change in the appearance? If the yard wasn't being cut, it would look worse on week 2 than it did on week 1.

The third time I got the notice I told them - not so nicely - that if I got one more notice, I was going to leave the clippings that came from the yard mowing in the dark plastic bag out in the heat for a week - just to make sure the grass had the chance to get really rancid, and then I was going to drive to their offices and spread it out in a nice thick mat in their lobby...

Never did get another notice.

BTW - these notices came one every 2 weeks over a 6 week period.

You must live in the same subdivision that I use to live in, in Houston. I had the same problem with them coming on a Friday, and I mowed on Monday. They told me I should mow my lawn on Friday. I told them I mow my lawn once a week, and I do it when I want to, and that they better just come by on Monday, or quit sending the letters. Never got another one.

Jackass's!!
 
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wbrian63

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Awesome project, big thumbs up!

What size and what are you plans for those AMG pentas? I think they are awesome period correct wheels. I have a 74 280C, wish it had that 6.9 power!

Again, great ideas and build.

The Pentas will be sold. The castings say 6-1/2J x 16, followed by H2. The rims were on a W123 chassis car before the 6.9 (previous owner) and the looked very nice.
 
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