KirkBurner
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I have no idea what this mill is, any tips on what brand and model?
The guy i bought it from claimed it was from 1874 or so...
Thanks up front...
Horizontal mill
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I have no idea what this mill is, any tips on what brand and model?
The guy i bought it from claimed it was from 1874 or so...
Thanks up front...
bczygan
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Welcome to GJ.
Buying tools you know nothing about........???
You will fit right in, here on GJ!!!
And no, I don't know anything either.
Any badges or plates or names on it?
Buying tools you know nothing about........???
You will fit right in, here on GJ!!!
And no, I don't know anything either.
Any badges or plates or names on it?
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KirkBurner
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thanks... I had to start somewhere to learn 
no badges no names... but I picked it up here in Norway..
forgot to say... it didnt come with that electrical engine originally...
no badges no names... but I picked it up here in Norway..
forgot to say... it didnt come with that electrical engine originally...
Defiantly a different machine with both leadscrews and rack feed on the table. The rack feed on the table tells me that the machine is primarly for production of many of the same part. The operator would install a part in a fixture on the table, grab the big handle and move the part to the cutter to perform the operation, and change the part and do it again.
Another telling sign is the lack of dials on the leadscrews to indicate travel distance.
On the good side it looks to be a stout machine that you can make work. Did you get any arbors for the horz. part or collets for the spindle?
lg
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Another telling sign is the lack of dials on the leadscrews to indicate travel distance.
On the good side it looks to be a stout machine that you can make work. Did you get any arbors for the horz. part or collets for the spindle?
lg
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KirkBurner
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I got afew "cutting irons" one or two arbors (if thats the arm)
the vise was fastened
when you say it was used to production, if the old guy I bought it from said it was from a bikefactory that also produced mopeds for a period of time. then there could be some truth to it...
then it will nice to make motorbike parts with it ..
should the rack have an automatic feed?
the vise was fastened
when you say it was used to production, if the old guy I bought it from said it was from a bikefactory that also produced mopeds for a period of time. then there could be some truth to it...
then it will nice to make motorbike parts with it ..
should the rack have an automatic feed?
E.Marquez
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By production, meaning it was designed and set up to do ONE operation only... be it, profile a part, or cut a feature..
It will make chips for sure,,, but you may find limitations in the operations you can perform.. time will tell.
Milling machine manual .
The link above will take you to a basic machine manual, From there you can get some of the common nomenclature for the parts of the machine.
lg
no neat sig line
The link above will take you to a basic machine manual, From there you can get some of the common nomenclature for the parts of the machine.
lg
no neat sig line
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KirkBurner
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Sweet thanks alot larry
Kevin54
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Kirk....welcome to Garage Journal. Hope you hang around for a long while. It's always great to have other countries join on here. Plus you have quite a few neighbors from Norway on here also.
As far as the mill....is what we see, what you got? Or did you get some other cutters, spacers, and a long arbor? The overhead arm that is sticking up will flip down and support a long arbor. You can then set up multiple cutters on the arbor using spacers in between. Not a lot of people use horizontal mills today like they used to years ago, but when I started in the Tool Maker trade, we had a nice horizontal mill. You can set it up using multiple cutters in different diameters to make your cuts. You are not limited to one cutter at one diameter. For an example, you can set up a horizontal like this using 4 cutters and some spacers. A horizontal mill will save from making multiple setups or adjustments when you use a vertical mill.
As far as the mill....is what we see, what you got? Or did you get some other cutters, spacers, and a long arbor? The overhead arm that is sticking up will flip down and support a long arbor. You can then set up multiple cutters on the arbor using spacers in between. Not a lot of people use horizontal mills today like they used to years ago, but when I started in the Tool Maker trade, we had a nice horizontal mill. You can set it up using multiple cutters in different diameters to make your cuts. You are not limited to one cutter at one diameter. For an example, you can set up a horizontal like this using 4 cutters and some spacers. A horizontal mill will save from making multiple setups or adjustments when you use a vertical mill.
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sonvolt
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We have two of these that we use with multiple cutters w/spacers for cutting slots/relief in tooling that we build. Mostly a specialty machine for today's standards. We have Hitachi Seiki from 1968 or so.
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KirkBurner
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thanks alot for the feedback guys
I got a couple of long arbors
I got about 20 or more cutters, some like thin like sawblades, some wider.
and one 15cm wide or so...
so a fair bit of variety.
got any tips on a beginner project, to learn the skills?
I got a couple of long arbors
I got about 20 or more cutters, some like thin like sawblades, some wider.
and one 15cm wide or so...
so a fair bit of variety.
got any tips on a beginner project, to learn the skills?
Outlawmws
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Noticing you are from Norway, so almost certainly European built, (so few of us are likely to recognize it; where is fretters? he might...)
I would strongly doubt even 100 years old. Probably no more than WWII.... But that is a WAG.
Key question" Are the bearings Babbitt or roller/ball)? if roller or ball, Definitely not 1800's anything.
I would strongly doubt even 100 years old. Probably no more than WWII.... But that is a WAG.
Key question" Are the bearings Babbitt or roller/ball)? if roller or ball, Definitely not 1800's anything.
Outlawmws
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As for projects, cutting splines on shafts/axles, or key-ways, you could also do a bang up job cutting "teeth" on vise jaws... While H. mills have taken a back seat, they definitely have uses...
DocsMachine
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-I disagree. Being (probably) European may blur the issue a bit, but I'd wager that thing is easily in the 100-year-old ballpark, if not older. The curved overarm support is something of a giveaway- until about the teens or twenties (thereabouts) it was easier to cast the arm and turn it. After that, as production of bar stock improved and dropped in price, it became cheaper to buy off-the-shelf round stock, and add a clamp-on cast arbor support to the end.
Examples: Old Brown & Sharpe mill, another old Brown & Sharpe mill.
-It's plain bearing. There's not enough "room" in the casting for roller bearings.
Considering it has a crank handle on the right end of the table, as well as the rack, I bet it works a lot like the Nichols mill. You engage the table screw and the handwheel works for fine, precise movements, or disconnect it and use the rack and lever for stop-to-stop swings for production work.
Those two holes on the left side, right above the spindle scenterline, are almost certainly where oil cups need to go, to lube the spindle. Do NOT put a zerk in there and try to grease it. You need Gits type cups and a regularly-applied oil can.
It's almost impossible to over-oil a plain bearing machine.
The only way to tell if you're over-oiling it is if your socks start getting wet. Doc.
Alan Douglas
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Is that a nameplate painted over, just above the access door in the base?
OccupantRJ
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An air cylinder, hydrocheck, control valve, and pushbuttons can be added to the table to make it a very decent production mill for multiple small parts. Hand feeds tend to be a bit jerky and can break thin cutters.