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LED landscape lights interfering with openener

stealth94rt

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I discovered tonight that my LED landscape lights are interfering with my garage door opener. The lights were installed about mid-Summer and we have been having trouble with it recently (it's now close to end of the following January).

The opener is a big dual-light Sears Craftsman cable/chain drive. It is about 10 years old. I have incandescent lights installed in the opener.

I don't want to take the LED landscape lights out. Can I put a ferrite choke on the line coming out of the transformer that feeds out to the LED lights?

Any advise would be appreciated.

Thanks!
 
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matt_i

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What is happening exactly? Interference with RF signal from garage door remotes? Or its an issue with the hardwired button(s)?

Seems odd you'd get ~8 months of good service and then suddenly you have problems, but problems are not always easy!
 

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This seems to be a somewhat common problem. The issue is apparently cheap no-name LED lights/bulbs (landscape lights, Christmas lights, overhead lights) putting out RF interference from their internal power wiring, which sometimes happens to fall in the part of the spectrum used by garage door openers.

As for why did the problem take so long to show up in this case, it's possible some internal component of the lights has degraded slightly over time / weather changes, or maybe the batteries in your remote(s) have weakened gradually to the point where they could no longer overcome the interference, or it may just be that the problem was there all along but became more noticeable when you have to come home in the dark a lot more with it getting dark so much earlier for the last few weeks.

Things you can try:
- Fresh batteries in remote(s).
- See if your garage door opener system has an option to change the frequency it uses, which might get it just out of range of the problem.
- Clamp-on ferrite cores can be worth a try, but might not be enough since this problem usually originates internally near the LEDs, rather than back near the plug-in transformer where the accessible wiring is.
- If the problem is with the plug-in transformer, some suggest various ways of shielding it with metal/foil, but haven't heard of someone that was suggested to coming back and reporting success with that.
- Replace the lights/bulbs with an LED product from a major brand, especially one that has an FCC certification logo on the packaging to indicate it's been proven to not emit RF interference.
- Replace the lights/bulbs with a non-LED product.
- Consider adding a smartphone-controlled opener add-on such as this to bypass the problem, if you have a smartphone and are tech-savvy enough to deal with the setup.
- When coming home after dark, get out of your car and stand right in front of the garage door to use the opener remote.

Sources:
https://www.phoenixazgaragedoorrepa...ith-your-garage-door-opener/garage-door-blog/
https://blog.lightingsupply.com/blog/do-led-bulbs-interfere-with-garage-door-openers
http://homeenergypros.org/profiles/blogs/led-lighting-garage-door-opener-interference
http://www.diychatroom.com/f18/led-lamp-interferes-garage-door-opener-139585/
https://www.shopyourway.com/questions/1157433
https://www.thehulltruth.com/docksi...ghts-causing-garage-door-opener-not-work.html
http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?1,1776422,1776521
http://www.instructables.com/topics/interference-problem-with-LED-landscape-lighting-a/
http://www.ledbenchmark.com/faq/LED-interference-issues.html
http://forums.indigodomo.com/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=12894
 
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stealth94rt

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It is interfering with the signal from the car remotes and sometimes the wireless remote keypad. For some reason, it seems worse in very cold temperatures, but I'm not sure why yet. We didn't see the problem until we first started having temps around 0 degrees F. And it has been intermittent since then, even happening last night when the outdoor temp was around 39 degrees F.
 
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Hexen

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It is interfering with the signal from the car remotes and sometimes the wireless remote keypad. For some reason, it seems worse in very cold temperatures, but I'm not sure why yet. We didn't see the problem until we first started having temps around 0 degrees F. And it has been intermittent since then, even happening last night when the outdoor temp was around 39 degrees F.

Well, batteries tend to act weaker in colder weather, but we may never know exactly why it's happening now and not before. One or more of the things I listed will probably resolve it regardless. Please let us know which things you try and which ends up working for you, to help others in the future. :)
 

Bretny

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Bring your car remote inside next time it happes. If it dosnt have the problem with a 60*f battery i think you have found you need new batterys.
 

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Do not leave or come home when the yard lights are turned on..:lol:

I read some very good advice, that include links and suggestions....
 
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