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fclaridge

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Hi all, I have been building a pole barn style shop and stumbled upon a problem. I want to add a man door, but I am being told that requires the door framing to be 4x6s set 4' below grade like the main posts. Is this true and would there be alternate methods to frame in a man door without having to set the framing into the ground? I was thinking of securing the bottom plate to the concrete with anchors. Any ideas would be great.

Thanks.

Fred
 
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wcp0611

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Exactly how you just said. I venture to safely say that if someone was trying to break in, the force it'd take to shear anchors is probably not far from the force needed to shear a 4x6 planted in the floor. Just anchor it if you need to. I've seen many barns with concrete floors do this. I don't believe codes cared one way or the other when I built mine but definitely make sure yours don't require it one way or the other.

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Pluribus

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Who is telling you that, and do they have a say in your getting the CO? If the answer is no to the 2nd part of the question, then I'd carry on with your idea/plan.
 

ddawg16

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Hi all, I have been building a pole barn style shop and stumbled upon a problem. I want to add a man door, but I am being told that requires the door framing to be 4x6s set 4' below grade like the main posts. Is this true and would there be alternate methods to frame in a man door without having to set the framing into the ground? I was thinking of securing the bottom plate to the concrete with anchors. Any ideas would be great.

Thanks.

Fred

If that is the case, then there are billions of doors done wrong
 

lakeroadster

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Nothing needed below grade...

Here's how the door framing was done on my barn.

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fclaridge

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The Building Department drawing guy at the County. And when I asked about the anchors he said I could submit that idea. And I asked him if that would be acceptable he just said I could submit that idea. No real answer. So I hope he’s just not jerking with me.
 
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lakeroadster

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The Building Department drawing guy at the County.

That guy, at our county, is a guy who had a construction business and it went bankrupt..... just sayin'. He wears croc's when he does inspections, and is afraid to climb a ladder.

Others I have dealt with in other locations were really great.

Proceed with caution.
 
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