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UncleJoe

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Since my entire workshop (Hobby) consists of ideas I stole form here I thought I would seek some ideas regard the work I do for a living.

I am a Network Engineer. For the past 15 years 95 % of what I did was at a keyboard or in meetings designing networks and security. Prior to that I was split between that type of work and cabling and hardware work. Most of my work tools consist of software and a few hand tools. Most of my clients have IT staff that can handle most tasks and I end up doing the design or configuring complicated servers, routers, switches and firewalls.

A while ago I picked up a very good client that is very dependent on IT but has zero staff. I now have days where I might run cable or mount a monitor to a wall or do any number of things that require the used of hand tools. I am really enjoying getting back to some of that work. I know I would not like a steady diet of 40 hours a week of doing this but it is a nice break in routine.

My issue is carrying tools. What to take and how to take it. I am now using hand tools maybe only 3-5 days a month but when I need to have them no other tool will do. You simply can't do a very good job crimping cat 6 without the right tool and if you need to mount a server rack to the floor or drill through a concrete wall to run a cable you better have a hammer drill in your tool box.

I currently classify the tools needed for jobs in 3 categories; (the list is not complete but just enough to get the idea of the scope of work for each category.

Category 1 jobs. This can involve software configuration, checking cables are plugged into the proper ports, opening devices to examine inside, Installing and configuring routers, firewalls and switches. Tools required for this; Laptop, Small tool pouch, Penlight, Gerber utility knife, USb Key loaded with software tools. This covers 90% of where I make my money.

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For Cat 1 jobs I grab this and I can do everything I need.

Cat 2 jobs: This can involve testing cable runs, making new cables. installing new hardware. Tools required for this are all the tools from Category 1 and Cabling tools. Tester, Crimper and assorted hand tools. All fit in a laptop bag with tool pouches. This configuration allows me to fix most cable problems mount new equipment etc.
For this level I use a laptop /tool bag found here http://www.lanshack.com/QuickTreX-Featherweight-Series-Pro2Go-Tool-Case-P5989C540.aspx and it holds both categories of tools. I removed one panel as it was not needed.
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and yes that is a USB powered fan. I have found that some wiring closets need better ventilation and get very hot.

Cat 3 Jobs Infrastructure: This involves complicated cable runs, installing racks of hardware, mounting satellite receiver’s, mounting large cellular and wireless antennas. Tools required include those from category 1 and 2 plus Fish tape, Sawsall, hammer drill, cordless drill, cordless impact driver, extension cords, Hammers etc.

I also carry in the back of my Trailblazer, a converted tackle box, the type that holds the plano type containers. This holds parts, screws, wire ties, a few nic cards, and a spare video card and some test equipment.

I have Categoy 1 and 2 covered but I need a better way to handle Category 3. These tools do not get used much, but when they are needed it is a big job. I need a good way to store and transport these so I am looking for ideas. Right now I am looking at a large plastic bin and a hand truck.

I need good ideas and you guys usually have more than anywhere else so let me hear what you got.

Sorry for the long post.
 
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Re: Network Engineer Tool delima need ideas.

Have you considered a roll case (like a suit case that has wheels) for your Category 3 tools?

Might make things easier when you need them.

Another less attractive way is a hand cart and folding lid plastic bins (hold them to the cart via bungee cords).
 

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Re: Network Engineer Tool delima need ideas.

Interesting read, after I retired I did a few jobs that involved data wiring. It sounds as though you have the small stuff covered. I saw many guys struggle hauling tools in and out. The ones I thought were best organized used a collapsible hand cart with wheels. They would have pelican type cases with larger tools and test equipment in their vehicle and would bungee cord them to the hand cart depending on the current work order.

Second choice would be to sub it out.
 

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Re: Network Engineer Tool delima need ideas.

How about Festool Systainers?

You can break things down into tasks such as cutting, drilling, cable pulling, hardware/fasteners, etc.

They are pricey, but look very neat and professional. There are various carts, dollys and straps that allow easy transport to the work area.

I would also consider a headlamp to allow you to free up both hands.
 
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Re: Network Engineer Tool delima need ideas.

I had never seen the dewalt system. Looks good. I have festool tools for my woodshop and I really like them. Looks like I need to do more planning

Thanks everyone for the input. Keep the ideas coming
 

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Re: Network Engineer Tool delima need ideas.

My fulltime job is as in-house network admin for a manufacturing company. The majority of the things I have to fix can be done with the small toolbox we have at work. Screwdrivers, pliers, crimper and plugs, etc. Anything major, our tool crib or maintenance department has. They run the wire for me, and I terminate it...can't complain there.

When I do work on the side, I too have three 'categories' of tools.
1)Briefcase with laptop, external HD, cables. small tools. For basic service calls, adding memory and hard drives, etc.
2)CLC electrician's tote with 25 pounds of tool goodness...my go-to installation tool bag. When I am working, tools always end up in my pockets...lol
This is normally supplemented by my Dewalt cordless drill. I also have a small bag with 2 drill bit sets, staple gun, and a few duplicate tools. I can also throw jacks and wallplates in there.
3)Craftsman Sit-Stand-Tote box I got at a garage sale. It holds some testers, drill bits, coax crimpers, BNC connectors and adapters (for CCTV), other misc stuff. It normally stays in my workshop though.

I will say that having a cart on the job site helps ten-fold! I hate having to make twelve trips to my car :p
 

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Re: Network Engineer Tool delima need ideas.

I use a folding aluminum luggage cart/dolley when I have to the back of a whse or something more ten steps from the truck. You can pile a bunch of stuff on it, it folds up flat, it's very light and best of all they are cheap.
 

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Re: Network Engineer Tool delima need ideas.

You need one of these to deal with recalcitrant Cisco Routers...

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Re: Network Engineer Tool delima need ideas.

I really like your setup. I can't recommend much in way of changes, but I will steal the setup you have for myself. I don't do much hands on anymore in my day job but have a few small clients that get me to do remote hands type work at their colo and DC facilities here usually a couple hours a week. Keeps some side income coming in and gives me a good excuse to buy more tools :)

I've been thinking of doing up a grab bag similar to the one you showed with all of my lan tools in it, now that I see yours I'm a little more motivated to make it happen now.
 
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Re: Network Engineer Tool delima need ideas.

You need one of these to deal with recalcitrant Cisco Routers...

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I spent 5 years teaching the Microsoft Engineering Curriculum and the Cisco courses up through CCNP. I sure learned a lot while I was teaching. There is nothing like teaching a subject to get you deep into the details. Cisco routers used to be "recalcitrant" but now they just bow down to me and do as I say.:evil:

I will admit that there have been times in my career where I would have loved to take that hammer to a couple of routers.
 
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Re: Network Engineer Tool delima need ideas.

My fulltime job is as in-house network admin for a manufacturing company. The majority of the things I have to fix can be done with the small toolbox we have at work. Screwdrivers, pliers, crimper and plugs, etc. Anything major, our tool crib or maintenance department has. They run the wire for me, and I terminate it...can't complain there.

When I do work on the side, I too have three 'categories' of tools.
1)Briefcase with laptop, external HD, cables. small tools. For basic service calls, adding memory and hard drives, etc.
2)CLC electrician's tote with 25 pounds of tool goodness...my go-to installation tool bag. When I am working, tools always end up in my pockets...lol
This is normally supplemented by my Dewalt cordless drill. I also have a small bag with 2 drill bit sets, staple gun, and a few duplicate tools. I can also throw jacks and wallplates in there.
3)Craftsman Sit-Stand-Tote box I got at a garage sale. It holds some testers, drill bits, coax crimpers, BNC connectors and adapters (for CCTV), other misc stuff. It normally stays in my workshop though.

I will say that having a cart on the job site helps ten-fold! I hate having to make twelve trips to my car :p

Jeff, I spent some time as a Net admin back with Novell was the only network server for PC's and all the pc's were DOS or Windows 3.1 (WOW I just aged myself, I think I have been doing this network stuff about as long as you have been alive)

I will pass along that you are on a great career path. It has been a very good provider for my family and allowed me to buy some nice tools. If you like IT there really is no ceiling to how high you can go it is all up to you. It treated me very well. I just happen to love the work and I love troubleshooting and that has made all the difference. This is not the job for folks that don't like it. I know accountants who really don't like accounting but they can stay in it and make a good buck but if you don't like IT then it is just too much work to keep up with all the changes.
 

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Re: Network Engineer Tool delima need ideas.

That hammer makes me laugh! My favorite IT instructor in college had a rubber mallet that was his 'local anesthetic' for working on computers in ophthalmology offices!

I've been involved in the field for a while...I am 24 now. My dad worked for a telecommunications company here in Cleveland starting when I was 12. I learned a great deal about phone systems, cabling, sound and intercom, etc. which led me to computers. Every time I went to the office, they showed me something new, and it fascinated me. I worked for my school's technology department for a summer and the network admin there was one of my mentors. I was fortunate enough to do a 2 year tech prep program my junior and senior years of high school. Got to work with some Cisco gear, along with electronics, computer hardware, and some programming.
I studied computer network administration at the University of Toledo (associates degree) and then continued on to get a Bachelor's degree in information technology. I graduated last May, came home to Cleveland, continuing to do work on the side, and look for a full-time job.
Now I am coming up on a year at this job. I learn something every day!
 
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Re: Network Engineer Tool delima need ideas.

I like your setup you currently have, why not get a nice backpack that has 3 or 4 sections and toss extension cord in one section, a drill or saw saw in each of the other sections, drill bits and saw blades in side pockets. Then you can keep the backpack in your trunk too and it will look nice like your other case. Pull it out, make your 3 or 4 holes with your drill, wipe the tool off and put it back. Seems like a clean, matching, simple solution. Also it would keep you looking IT and not Construction in my opinion...
 

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Re: Network Engineer Tool delima need ideas.

Roll aboard style pelican case:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pelican-151...-/370289827520?pt=Luggage&hash=item5636fe5ec0

Which some of my co-workers used.

or

Portercase, which I've been using for a couple decades.

(this is the new version)

http://www.portercase.com/catalog/

Best part of the portercase is that it opens to make a hand truck for all your other stuff, or cardboard boxes of replacement gear.

I love mine.

zuk

...gonna be hard to top that portercase. Very nice, thanks, zuk.
 
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Re: Network Engineer Tool delima need ideas.

ZUK123, I really like the flexibility of that portercase. Real nice stuff.
 

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They provide great support and are in the USA.

When my wheels wore out, they sent me new ones. I've only had 2 cases since the mid 90's. I cracked the plastic on the first one after a few hundred thousand miles of air and truck travel.

The second is still going strong with the new wheels. I seriously overload mine all the time too (although I don't recommend doing that!) I've got another couple hundred thousand miles on the second one.

I have a strap clipped to it, and hang my computer hard shell briefcase on it when traveling. It looks just like a regular roll aboard, except the wheels are on the wrong side. It makes for some funny moments when TSA tries to roll it around.


Highly recommended.

zuk
 
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Re: Network Engineer Tool delima need ideas.

I have a decent Klein tester but that one looks pretty interesting especially for the price. I wonder who makes it. Mine does all that except cable length. I had a fluke yearss ago that did the length but I hardly ever used it.
 

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Re: Network Engineer Tool delima need ideas.

It reminded me of an old Fluke 620 Lan Cable Meter...

You nailed it. Looks very similar and features are very close. Price is a different story' $31 vs $345!!! :scared:
 

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I have just got into the telecomms field. I sideline it with my trade as an electrician. Would be really interested in seeing what you guys 'across the pond' carry with you. I will post mine soon!
 

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lifestyle issues...such as, how do I carry 25 pounds of tools into an office with a hot secretary and not look like a fool? haha
 

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You need to pick up a catalog of the pelican cases on wheels and sit down and figure out your storage needs for any future tools. At my age anything on wheels saves my back and makes things much easier in the long run.:lol:
 
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