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I have two older, high mileage cars (2014 Subaru Forester, 2000 Toyota Tacoma) and in the past had a high mileage Honda Civic (2000). In the future, for a next car, I might buy a plug-in hybrid type car (Toyota?). Due to age and long use, I do some degree of preventative maintenance and repairs when things to wrong. So I need to read check engine codes now and then. I have been using a basic blue-tooth ODB-II interface that I connect to a smartphone app (Torque). From this I read basic codes and use the info along with simple logic and tests to narrow down problems. I probably over-replace things, but I buy parts cheap and keep the cars very long so that is all ok (I will replace sensors etc when there is any doubt or reasons to suspect not much life left). This has for the most part kept my cars reliable short of full engine rebuilds (which I have also done) up to about 300k miles.

Now the problem. EVERY TIME I use my blue tooth interface, it takes me about 30 tries of reloading the interface in the blue tooth scan and restarting the read (connecting to the right ODB-II in the load scan etc) before Torque will interface and read the codes. It is incredibly exasperating (often taking a half hour to get simple reads) before I hit whatever load sequence actually works to interface and start reading the codes. I want to be done with this (I am usually swearing and saying I will buy something better and then it will finally work) and get something that works without the headache. Also, the Torque app is pretty limited in what you can see with various monitors that provide more info. For example, when refilling a suburu CVT temp control is important, and Torque will not access available data of this type. I would assume such issues probably are even worse on newer cars year by year. What I have is just an old purchase of Torque (few $) and a cheap, $20 ODB-II to Blue Tooth interface plug in adapter. It is an incredibly cheap setup for basic code reading. But the savings is not worth the interface frustration and wasted time and I occasionally could use data that it is not showing (Oxygen sensors, transmission temp, etc). I probably need to read codes an average of a few times a year and could benefit from scrutinizing more engine data (I am a scientist/professor and used to working on complicated things and do repairs of all types right up to full engine rebuilds).

Is there anything I can buy for a few hundred $ and under that would improve this situation? Something that does not require buying updates and data links, interfaces trivially (via direct plug in maybe best?), and reads and formats most available diagnostic info? My garage has wifi coverage. I am not a pro working on a lot of cars. Just my family cars.

Thanks for the help in advance. I realize a lot has been posted on these type questions. But it is a very moving target since these things change all the time. The most recent thread I saw was from about a year ago. So I was thinking this can be worthwhile for me and maybe some other to rehash.
 
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While I use my mid range autel most of the time I have a OBDX Pro VX that I use in my suburban. I bought it specifically because it can be used (with additional software to mod and reflash the GM ecu but have also found it to be a great addition to check live data (especially ****** temp while towing) and even code reads via Bluetooth on the Torque app on my ATOTO head unit.

It takes less than 15 seconds to link and read. Just did it on the way to the kids archery practice last night(wife didn’t get the fuel cap all the way on)
 

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I have used the VeePeak OBDCheck Wifi for years with the Car Scanner ELM OBD2 app. It has worked great. I'm going to buy another one, probably the bluetooth version, to keep in the other vehicle (I've got 2 Ford's 😄).


Check them out. Definitely recommended for a very cheap solution.
 
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I have used the VeePeak OBDCheck Wifi for years with the Car Scanner ELM OBD2 app. It has worked great. I'm going to buy another one, probably the bluetooth version, to keep in the other vehicle (I've got 2 Ford's 😄).


Check them out. Definitely recommended for a very cheap solution.

Thanks. But that seems specific to Apple products. I was wondering though if my struggle is more the Torque app and something better might make more use of the data and interface better with the blue tooth adapter. It surprises me somewhat that Torque is not using a lot of what is available on the data bus. It should be easy for the developers to keep adding. But maybe they charge more in some other versions so they do not extend it? But in principle, having the system on a smart phone is better IF it makes use of the data since the app can be updated and you are already on a computer system to go back and forth looking for more info posted online on whatever problem.
 
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While I use my mid range autel most of the time I have a OBDX Pro VX that I use in my suburban. I bought it specifically because it can be used (with additional software to mod and reflash the GM ecu but have also found it to be a great addition to check live data (especially ****** temp while towing) and even code reads via Bluetooth on the Torque app on my ATOTO head unit.

It takes less than 15 seconds to link and read. Just did it on the way to the kids archery practice last night(wife didn’t get the fuel cap all the way on)

Thanks. Ironically that is what triggered my latest frustration. It took 1/2 hour to get torque blue tooth interface working to find the check engine light was due to a loose gas cap throwing the relevant code. I think I lost a lot of brain cells trying every sequence of start iterations to work. What really irritates me is I am unsure what the difference is when it finally works. I wrote down a sequence that worked once and then it does not work next time. It is like a bad joke that repeats and repeats!
 
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Sometimes devices, app and phone age can be a factor. Has your phone had recent updates? Can you reload the Torque app? I recently got the Gearwrench scanner module. Still learning but easy to use.
 
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Sometimes devices, app and phone age can be a factor. Has your phone had recent updates? Can you reload the Torque app? I recently got the Gearwrench scanner module. Still learning but easy to use.

This has had the struggle from new and I think apps you buy should update at least for an extended period. I am using Android under a relatively new Galaxy S-series smartphone. Torque had this struggle from new when I first started using it around 2015 ish. It was so exasperating that I bought a 2nd cheap blue-tooth to OBD interface thinking that was the culprit. BUT the new one did the same and I try both randomly now. I am pretty sure I am not doing anything wrong on the interface setup. What seems to have a prayer of working is deleting the old phone OBD-II blue tooth setup, then scanning for new blue-tooth devices, pairing it (with whatever standard code), and then opening Torque and telling it to interface with the specific OBD-II bluetooth device available. But then reading scans fails about 29 out of 30 times going through this cycle. This has been true over 3 cars and a few phones. So I am pretty sure it is the Torque App's fault. I am not an IT guy but I heavily use technology ... so I don't think I am THAT inept where this should be happening.
 
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Seems like Eric O gives this one a thumbs up.

Thanks. I am having a hard time figuring out which of these will do things like plot out O2 sensor readings, transmission temp (if available) and stuff like that. I presume that may require more info on the specific car line being scanned etc.
 
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