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jimbo0076

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This is off base but looking for advise and maybe little direction possibly. My wife and I are a younger couple and gotta youngin on the way(Nov 18th) and we've been doing some research and looking about building a house on the property we currently have that our house trailer is on. We've got some rough ideas of what we want and started looking at house plans for general ideas and such but my gawd it gets extremely overwelming looking at all the different ideas and options but yet never finding anything that really jumps out and hollers that its the house for us. I know lots of yall have had to been in these shoes and wonder if yall have any opinions or places to look and such.
 
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gesoffen

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Having dreamed of doing the same but never actually done it, I have a few points that I have learned along the way:

1) Seriously consider hiring an architect. Yes they are expensive, but they are cheaper than having to fix a significant mistake in the house layout or code violations that you weren't aware of. With a few general ideas of what you are looking for in a house, an architect can probably get you close to what you are looking for pretty quickly and fine tune from there. Many architects won't charge you for a "portfolio" viewing (consider it like job interview where you are the employer). In that viewing, you can get a pretty good idea if you and he/she will be compatible or not with regards to house style. After that, you usually have to pay to start fine tuning or customizing plans.
2) If you know the style of house you prefer (rambler, colonial, etc), sketch a few ideas of your own. Also visit several of those types of houses via model homes or real estate open houses to get a better idea of what works for you or what doesn't. What looks like an ideal space on paper may be far from it in the real world (especially when it comes to kitchens and baths). This is where an experienced architect can also help steer you.

If you're going by house plans that you see online or in magazines/books, don't hesitate to start sketching modifications of an existing one or combinations of 2-3 of the ones you like. Even if its just an interesting feature or layout of only one floor or one room, sketch it out or make a note of it. An architect or a contractor may be able to find a way to make that work in your layout.

Considering the money and time invested, I can understand feeling overwhelmed (been there myself, part of the reason I haven't pulled the trigger)!
 

Falcon67

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Drive around and look at what some of the local custom builders are doing. Run through any new housing developments. Go look at all the model homes - be a pest, too bad for them, they are used to it LOL. Cheap, expensive - go see 'em all. Go to every open house for newer houses. A Sunday afternoon past time at our house, and we have a house. (wife is a great "I wanna see inside their house" snooper) Takes time, but it's a fun couple activity. Got a phone with a camera? Snap what you like and after a while you'll have some ideas to go by. "Goldilocks mode" is a good word for it. ;)

When we bought our first house, we looked at so many builders and floor plans that I could walk into a model, grab a plan and be within a few thousand of the price without the sales person saying a thing. Flipped them out.
 

BLUBAYOU

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I did this very thing 5 years ago (with our first child being born in the 3rd month of construction). It was a monumental task! I did nearly all of the work, but hired a few subs for the things I didn't want to spend time on, such as drywall (hate it) and electrical (can do it to code, but would take me at least twice as long).

I remember being in your shoes before our build. I spent countless hours drawing, looking on plans online, checking out local houses, etc. I ended up coming to a decision on the rough sq footage of the house, then narrowed my search from there. Eventually I found an existing plan from a "kit" place in British Columbia, who mostly built smaller pre-cut cabins, but this was their new, biggest plan at the time. They would supply materials (uncut) and plans for most of their offerings. I didn't go with them, as they are 3000+ miles from me, but I ended up working out a deal to buy their plan following some modifications to it.

Our actual build took 9 months from breaking ground to move in one week before xmas, with me working what felt like 800 hours a week on it, on top of working FT most of the way through at my real job. Oh yeah, having a baby in the middle of there made things a little busier, too. Needless to say, it was the most exhausting but fulfilling year of my life. We had a few minor setbacks along the way, as would be expected, but nothing major enough to make me not want to do it again. I want to build a vacation home next, where we're not waiting to move in the day it's "done".

A few basic things I can tell you from my experience are:

-You'll probably find something wrong with any plan you find, so look for the one that has the most "right" about it and try to modify as you see fit.
-As it's been said, see if you can walk through homes you might like. Being able to put yourself inside a plan is a lot harder than walking through a real structure.
-Not sure what your budget is like, but K.I.S.S. if need be. Standard building tips like keeping lengths in multiples of lumber available (2', 4', etc) increases efficiency
-Look at plans for use of space and wasted space. I feel that we ended up with a design having almost no wasted space. This gave us the most house for our $
-Look at plans for smaller houses and consider future expansion if the costs don't work out to your favor to build bigger now. I planned ours so one side would be easy to add onto with a great view if we ever felt it was necessary. 3.5 years later we had twins (bringing us to 3 kids, one beyond our "planned" 2) so we would like to rearrange bedrooms and add a new master on the back of the house, with a nice wooded view.
-If you do end up building, try to put your $ into the things that are hardest to upgrade later. We put radiant in our basement floor (& throughout house), used better windows, insulated very well, etc. These are things we wouldn't regret later and would be difficult and expense to replace, too.

I could go on, but there are a lot of things to consider if you really want to get into it. Feel free to ask any questions you may have. I found that starting with nothing was hardest. Not knowing what to build, how much to put into each item in the budget and so on. Buying an existing house, even if it were a fixer upper, seems like it would remove at least some of those variables. Not a recommendation to do that, just pointing it out.
 

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This is where putting your location in your profile helps.....

How big of a house?

What is your soil condition?

How far are you from supplies? (Can a cement truck get to your property?)

How Cold does it get? (Frost line?)

What can you afford?

Are you starting to see why location matters?
 

dansmurf

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As others said, check out all the open houses. We bought our house about a year and a half ago and still check out open houses to get decorating and remodeling ideas.

Also as said before, design to allow for cheep additions. My last house was a 2 bedroom 1.5 bath ranch. But it had a full staircase leading up to the attic and a steep pitched roof. It was nice that it kept the taxes and utilities down along with the original house price. Also did not cost too much more to add the staircase and taller roof when it was built. But when we needed the room it was easy to add 2 more large bedrooms and a large bath. My new house has a daylight basement that has been rough plumbed for wet bar and shop sink.

Last word of advise is if money is tight put your money were it counts. It is easy to change floor coverings, wall coverings, counter tops, light fixtures, etc. You can go cheap on them and replace them a little at a time. Put more toward doors, windows, roofing, HVAC, insulation, etc. Those are harder to replace and will usually last longer if you go with a better quality. Also could save you on utilities. Also if you leave a space unfinished make sure it is rough plumbed and has electrical ran to it
 
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jimbo0076

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This is where putting your location in your profile helps.....

How big of a house?
1200-1800 sq. ft. range we're not a big family and real simple so no need for a huge places

What is your soil condition?
Soil is in good condition,we talked of building a basement but decided against it.

How far are you from supplies? (Can a cement truck get to your property?)
Town is about 12 miles from home and no problem for trucks of any sort getting here.

How Cold does it get? (Frost line?)
Northeastern Alabama so nothing major mainly 20s-30s during the winter

What can you afford?
Looking to spend no more than 90K and hope to do a lot of the finish work ourselves if possible to cut the cost some more. We're buncha po folk here:lol_hitti

Are you starting to see why location matters?

Appreciate it! Thanks for all the other ideas..call me crazy but going to open houses and such never really came across my mind:dunno:..sounds like something my wife would be all into Haha
 

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I would also consider visiting a few manufactured home sales lots. You can see a lot of designs, layouts, and finishes in a short time. Take a lot of pictures and then select the features you like best from each home you visit. I also used an earlier version of this software http://www.punchsoftware.com/p-23-home-landscape-design-premium-nexgen3.aspx to do some amature drawings that the wife and I could visualize a bit more of what things would look like and how some things would lay out. I gave us a tool that we could use to transfer ideas to the builder so that we could communicate better. The software also allowed us to do some building placement on the land and figure out other things.

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NUTTSGT

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You have already got some valuable info above. ABout the only thing I can think of at the moment is to think things through and not to rush it.
 

bczygan

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I would go slow. Why do you want to build on this particular piece of property? Is this where you want to be for a long time? Are you renting now?
Basically, you are planning out a considerable chunk of the next part of your life. How do you want to live it? What are your plans for family, work, travel, hobbies etc. How rooted do you want to be? What is your present and future financial condition? What plans do you have for savings, insurance, vacations etc.? How secure are you and your wife in your careers?
See, it's a lot more than building a house. You both need to have a lot of deep conversations about the future and plan a course that is what you both want, a combined vision you both share.
Next thing, the cost of building is way more than the cost of buying right now. Lots of existing opportunities. What you build won't be worth what you spend on it. Have you thought of the cost in time value of money you are signing up for? Could you live in modest digs and not have to have a large mortgage? Could you buy cash? My next door neighbors bought their homes cash. No mortgage. Will improve as they get the cash and enlarge as family grows. If you save and invest now the time value of money works for you. If you spend now it works against you.
Just some thoughts.

Then when you decide how you want to live, and where you can live that way, then the property will dictate the structure you build. You don't look at "plans". You find a designer that will look at how you want to live, your budget, your property, your style, your color sense, your family plans for the future, etc. and will design an environment, both interior and exterior that will fulfill all the functions. Done right it will be a beautiful, flexible, useful tool, a sculpture you live in, a place to interact with your family, nature, your neighbors and community while being a sanctuary, meeting place, entertainment place, an inspirational place and many more things.
Or you could just pick a plan out of a magazine and plop it down on a lot and live in a box on a box like a lot of others do...........
 
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Make your hallway wide enough. We have been pleased with 4 foot width. Imagine moving a wheelchair down the hall. Look at what sort of turns you have to make to move your largets piece of furniture. Build a big enough garage. Don't build a 2 story house, you will appreciate not having to go up and down stairs to take care of children. If you plan on living there always, when you get old you will REALLY appreciate having everything on one level. Have as simple a roof line as possible. Cheaper to build and maintain. have a steep roof so as to have room for attic storage. It's better if you can have stairs to the attic. Have thick insulation. Install those plastic double glass wall windows. They save lots on heating and AC bills. Put panel doors inside instead of the hollow core cheaper doors. You will enjoy them more.

Have provision for wood heat whether you plan to use it or not. I live in W SC and we have similar climate, so I'm giving you the benefit of experience.

Provide for ventilation in the attic. A well ventilated attic makes the house a lot cooler.

Don't have a concrete driveway. Ice won't melt from them as fast as on asphale or just gravel.

Hardwood floors cost more than carpet but you have to relpace the carpet fairly often especially if you have pets in the house. If you have a dog on hardwood floors and it pees on it, it will make a non removeable stain.

KEH
 
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