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Built a new 30X42 shop & now I don't want to get "overspray" on everything.
Does anyone have pictures of floor to ceiling movable partitions of any configuration?












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I am looking for a tech link, you need to seperate the building with some restriction on booth.
 

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I really like sberry's idea for having the curtains roll up like some blinds. How thick are those plastic sheets?

This is not my booth. I found it on a paint booth vendor's website and I really liked the idea. Those curtain walls are very expensive though. I inquired about the price last year and it was something around $2k for enough curtain to do a 12' x 24' booth. They're sold by http://www.goffscurtainwalls.com.
 

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I used common 8 mill plastic. I bought 20X100 roll figuring I would use half and have half for replacement but its been there 15 yrs. Mine is 18X40 and the pipe just rolls up to store it. I was looking for booth info, I have a link to pdf, it helps to tune the air flow for great clearing. I love my setup, out of the way, easy to get in and out.
 

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On the net you can order custom made tarps. Not really all that expensive either. Just hang it like a shower curtain. Myself I have been looking for something insulated to split my shop in the winter. There are insulated tarps that I am considering. I also thought that if I could find a deal on insulated garage door panels I coild hang them from a track and fold them up like an accordian.
 

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I'm a distributor for Goff's Curtain Walls. Let me know what you're looking for and I'll discount.

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Brian, the site is me. I am an Industrial Specialist for Indoff and brand myself as Roark Industrial Solutions. You can e-mail me at [email protected] or call me at the 804 number on my site. That's my number. I'll be in my office tomorrow around 8:30. If I don't answer, the call forwards to my cell. If I don't answer, just leave me a message and I'll call back as soon as possible. Thanks much, J.
 
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Brian41, would OSHA approve of a booth that uses curtain walls? I have no problem with it since I'm just doing this for personal use, but supposing someone had an industrial setup that used curtain walls...I thought the booth had to be made out of non-flammable materials.
 

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Features of the curtain walls:

• Meets NFPA-701 Tests for Fire Resistance (required law for “Limited Finishing Stations”) as well as the California State Fire Marshal Standard
• Water Repellent, Mildew & Rot Resistant
• Resistant to Most Chemicals
• Withstands Continuous Temperature to 180ºF
• Cold Crack Resistance to -4ºF

http://www.goffscurtainwalls.com/documents/Goff_Autobody6p07s.pdf
 

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James (Roark Ind.), thanks for answering my question. Sorry Brian41; I glanced at James' picture which reappeared when you quoted him and that's why I was calling on you. My mistake.

James,
I will be doing my painting in a corner, so I think the two sided setup would be ideal, like the ones pictured below. I need a good resource for decoding OSHA regulations. I don't have employees so I will just do whatever is cheapest for now, but it would be nice to know if the booth I'm setting up now could be OSHA approved in the future. The building walls that make up two sides of the booth are concrete filled cinder blocks...need to figure out if those are OK according to OSHA.

Anyway, I looked at your catalog but couldn't find any pricing for the Goff curtain walls. How much does the two sided setup, 12' x 24' by 10 ft tall, cost?
 

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fusion,

I just jumped on for a bit to respond. I'll be on the road tomorrow, but hope to get your answers either tomorrow or Wednesday.

Sorry, you didn't see pricing for the walls. Our company has over 3000 vendors we distribute for so it's hard to keep the info updated. I'll get the info and be in touch. If you don't mind, shoot me a PM with your e-mail address if possible.

Thanks much,

J.
 

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Thanks sberry. I have seen that article and it helped me to get an idea of what a booth needs to work well. However it does not go into any OSHA or NFPA requirements and it does not help you to figure out paint arrestor, fan or duct sizing.

Here is the best info I've found so far: http://www.paintcenter.org/rj/may05n.cfm
 

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Thanks sberry. I have seen that article and it helped me to get an idea of what a booth needs to work well. However it does not go into any OSHA or NFPA requirements and it does not help you to figure out paint arrestor, fan or duct sizing.

Here is the best info I've found so far: http://www.paintcenter.org/rj/may05n.cfm

Very good read!! but my math is horrible, ive got a home made booth thats 14x30 and ive wondered what my intake areas should be size wise, any math guys here can figure this out for me:) thks ahead of time.
 

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I think a cross draft booth would be the most effective and simple to set up. It is the most efficient because you would only need one fan and one duct going straight through the roof. Every time air moves through a filter, through a duct, or through a bend in a duct, it suffers pressure loss. You have to compensate for these pressure losses by using bigger duct and/or a more powerful fan; both of which add cost fast.

I too am learning how to set up a booth, and what I present below kind of paraphrases the things I have read. I'm assuming your booth uses an exhaust fan that removes air from the booth downstream of a paint arrestor filter bank.

Mad57,

You want laminar flow to quickly remove overspray, resulting in a good quality paint job. There are also minimum velocity requirements to remove VOC's for safety reasons. To achieve laminar flow you need to have the size of your exhaust/paint arrestor bank be similar to the cross section of your booth. Likewise the area of your intake filters should be the same size or bigger than the area of your paint arrestors. Since you probably won't be placing parts in the corners of your booth, you don't have to have the paint arrestor bank be the same size as the back wall of your booth. Making it this large would require a much bigger fan to achieve the minimum air velocity. As long as the paint arrestor bank is pretty close to square and is a significant portion of the back wall of the booth, you should get good results.

Since the back wall of your booth is 14' wide, I think you should have a paint arrestor bank of about 8 to 10 feet wide. How high is your ceiling? If you're in a shop with a really high ceiling, you should build a lower ceiling for your booth. Make it as low as possible and still be able to manipulate the gun on the car effectively. Having a low ceiling will reduce your arrestor bank and fan size requirements. If your arrestor bank is significantly shorter than the height of your ceiling, then you will have turbulence in the top of your booth which will suspend overspray.

I'm guessing here, but you should get good results with an 8' x 8' arrestor bank. Center it on the back wall of your booth, and that leaves 3' on either side of the bank where turbulence will develop near the corners (see attached sketch).

The math part comes in when you need to figure out what size fan you need. OSHA used to require 100 ft/min flow, but now you can design for slower flow if you know that your solvent concentration in air justifies a slower flow. Most people don't know and design for 100 ft/min. I have also read that 50 ft/min works pretty well, so you should shoot for something in that range. Keep in mind also that since your arrestor and filter banks are smaller than the cross section of your booth, the flow will actually be slower than what this simple calculation gives. Buy the biggest fan you can afford.

So for your 8' x 8' filter, you need a 6400 cfm fan to achieve 100 ft/min flow velocity. Realistically, you should probably double that requirement to compensate for the pressure drops through the filters and paint arrestors, ducts, and the fact that you're filter area is smaller than your booth cross sectional area.

Wow that was long, but feel free to ask for clarification on certain points. Any experts' input would be appreciated, too.
 

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