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readjusting 2 post lift?

smike

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6 months ago I moved my Bendpack 2 post lift from my old garage to my new one. I had it leveled up perfect. I noticed today that the support arms that lift the car went off level a bit. Noticed it with the car on the lift when it was leaning a little. I had to readjust the leveling cables about a 1/4" to bing it back to level. Without the car on it off course. Everything else is plumb and level still.

Just wondering if this is normal? To go back and readjust once in a while.
 
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JSK

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If you plumb your columns to a sloped floor, your pads are going to be un-level. The columns need to be parallel and the pads should be as close to level with one another as they can be.

To correct uneven pads, loosen the anchors on both columns then shim the high side column so that it leans INWARD slightly to lower the higher pads HALF THE DIFFERENCE. Next, shim the low side column so that it leans slightly OUTWARD to elevate the lower pads.

• The lift should be raised midway and parked on equal height lock positions.
• Shim the columns until you get the pads level with one another.
• Check to see how plumb the columns are but don’t be too critical as long as they are PARALLEL.
• To double check that they are parallel, lower the lift to the floor, spread the front arms to full extension so that they are pointing directly at each other. Take a measurement from the center of the left front pad to the center of the right front pad. Let’s call it 12”. Raise the lift to full height and check to make sure the 12” is retained.

THIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR FLOORS THAT HAVE CONSIDERABLE PITCH AND/OR REQUIRE MORE THAN ONE-HALF INCH OF SHIMS.

Let’s assume a subject floor has a one-inch slope east to west with the high side being on the right (east) column. We’ll assume the overall width on our subject floor is 12-feet at outside of base plate for the floor plan. That would be less than 1/8” of slope every foot - easily perceived as a normal floor.

To compensate for the minor slope, there are three options…

• Install the lift directly on the surface and shim only as necessary to plumb the columns. In this case, your lift pads would be one-inch off – right to left. Assuming where your arms are positioned on the vehicle and the distance between pads, that one-inch could translate to dramatically sloped loading.

• Install the high side (right) column directly on the surface and elevate the low side (left) column an additional one inch with steel shim plates and Quikrete. Plumb both as required. In this case, even though the floor is sloped one inch, the columns would be installed plumb and the lift pads would be equal. This may be considered the “correct” way to do it however you now would have 25% less embedment on the anchor bolts assuming longer ones were not purchased, and you would have different pad heights relative to floor surface with respect to vehicles sitting on the floor. You may squeak a lift pad under the right side of the car, but find out the left side pad is too high for your ground hugger.

• Third way as described above – the final outcome being level pads and parallel columns.

Let’s review some engineering calculations assuming a 12,000-pound capacity two-post floor-plate model (with no top beam) – a worst case. A ½” shim on the outside edge (or inside edge) of the base plate would cause the base plate to be at a 1.35-degree angle with respect to the floor. Lifts with smaller base plates more – maybe 1.75 degrees. A shim that thick would adjust the pad height position considerably - at least 2” of vertical movement just on the one column side. That is why in most cases, shims no thicker than 3/16” are all that is ever required to adjust pad height.

Assume a 12K two-post floor-plate model has been shimmed ½” on just one edge of the base plate only. It would be angled about 1.35 degrees based on the dimension of the typically sized base plate. Assume it has an arm that measures 45.1” to the center of the lift pad from the main column centerline when loaded. NOTE: The arm may be longer, but when positioned as it would be during vehicle lifting, the pad would be approximately 45.1” from the main column centerline. The column will also be tilted 1.35 degrees with respect to the vertical. When fully raised, the lift head is 75.6” above the floor and the arms move horizontally 1.78" from their original position. The moment arm has increased from 45.1” to 46.9” which is an increase of 4.0%. Due to the moment arm increasing 4%, the column bending moment arm will also increase by 4 %. Therefore, the moment applied to the column and transmitted to the base plate will increase 4%. A 4% additional moment load would increase the anchor bolt tension load from 2772 lbs to 2882 lbs. A single Wej-It 3/4” anchor bolt embedded 5” deep in 3000PSI concrete would have a rated tension capacity of 12,000 pounds or more. Two post lifts with a top beam would have less of a bending moment penalty due to shimming. Main lift structural components will have be virtually unaffected by this slight increase in moment loading.

Bottom line, raising vehicles not perfectly centered between your columns will add more stress on the column, base plates, and anchors, than shimming out of plumb a degree or two. Either case, the stresses are very minimal. At least on ETL certified lifts or those designed with similar criteria. Two-post lifts rarely need shims greater than 1/4" thick, but you would be surprised what affect even the slightest shimming has on pad height adjustment.
 
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HAP

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Jeff,

Would the adjustable screw pads solve for the height diference and not create the load variations you mention?

Thanks,
HAP
 

JSK

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Jeff,

Would the adjustable screw pads solve for the height diference and not create the load variations you mention?

Thanks,
HAP

Yes, screw pads would do the trick as well. Because of the long outreach of the arms, the thinnest shims near the outside edges of the baseplates will raise or lower the pads significantly without putting any adverse loading on the columns or other load bearing components.
 

HAP

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Yes, screw pads would do the trick as well. Because of the long outreach of the arms, the thinnest shims near the outside edges of the baseplates will raise or lower the pads significantly without putting any adverse loading on the columns or other load bearing components.

Thanks for the in-depth lesson on this topic. Much appreciated.

R,
HAP
 
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