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Sandy, Geeno the Generator, and me

albaran

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The posts on generators have been very interesting. In my younger days, I was also in the survivalist mode with portable generators. Lug the generator out, cut the main, hook up the cables, and then run around to get gas (which is now becoming even a bigger problem.) As I approach my seventh decade of life on this earth, I no longer want to be a survivalist.
We lived on the water for fifteen years and about a year ago decided to move inland. A few months after that, hurricane Irene hit. Although we were glad that we were no longer on the water, we still had to endure no power for about a week. At that time I was building the addition to my garage and was going to install a propane 75000 btu heater and a free standing tank in the back of the garage. After that power outage I decided I was not going to put up with that BS any more so I decided to add a standby generator and bury a 500 gal tank behind a retaining wall in the back yard. (The wall was the most expensive part of the project.)
I am friends with the family that owns Northeast Generator and they reccomended a 15KW GE generator with a 200 amp transfer switch. This is basicaly a Briggs and Stratton unit. They also sell all of the other brands including Generac and Kohler. This a fairly complicated plumbing and wiring job so I would not reccomend anyone try to do this on their own.
After hurricane Sandy hit, my power went out Monday afternoon. Six seconds later, Geeno (the name my wife has given to the generator) started up and has been running continuously since then. We have no idea when the power is going to be restored, but our lifestyle has not changed. I asked the propane company to top off the tank (they came right away) and they added 150 gal of propane. This was for 2 days of generator useage and heating the garage for all of last winter. I figure I could go 2 to 3 weeks on a tank if I had to to.
For those of you that think this is overkill, I would like to alert you to the new reality. Today's overkill could be tomorrow's minimum. In my old age I want to simplify my life. I don't want a boat, a pool, a dog, or a second vacation house. I just want my home and my garage.
 

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madosta

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Well written. I am a big fan of getting off the grid, but do you really need to run it continuously? I understand the necessity for heat and certain things like the refrigerator and freezers.

With those smart-idlers or whatever they're called I would imagine you could save some fuel. Do you think your generator is being utilized to its full potential? (get it?)

I'm jealous of your luxury and preparedness! Nice job.
 

theoldwizard1

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Nice clean instal !

Keep us posted on the price and availability of propane in you area over the next few weeks !
 
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albaran

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This is an update to my original post. The generator ran continuously from Monday to Friday night when the power came back on. The only way I knew that the power was back was because I couldn't hear the generator. It was pretty seamless.
I checked the oil and it was down quite a bit and very dirty. This was a new unit that was only run during the weekly excercise so it still had the original break in oil. I replaced the oil with Mobil 1 synthectic 10-30w and put in a new filter which was easily obtained at the local auto parts store. I called the tech guy at Briggs and Stratton (very easy to get to and good customer service) and he stated that it was normal to use some oil while the unit is breaking in. The break in oil is supposed to be changed after 5 hours of use and this thing was running for about 96 hours.
The 500 gal propane tank is still about 70% full. I had one delivery of 150 gal (no problem getting the propane) which means that I heated my garage all of last winter and ran the generator for 4 days on about a half of a tank.
Other than the power outage we only had some big trees go down but we were fortunate that there was no other property damage. The same cannot be said for what happened south of us in New york and New Jersey. The devastation was horrendous. The pictures that the rest of you in other areas are seeing cannot begin to describe what has happened. What makes this catastrophie more severe is that it occured in the most heavily populated part of this country. I urge anyone reading this to help out by donating to the Red Cross for their storm relief efforts.
 

theoldwizard1

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... The break in oil is supposed to be changed after 5 hours of use and this thing was running for about 96 hours.

While you did go "a bit" long on the break in oil, it was probably good seeing as you are planning on using synthetic oil.
 

RustFarmer

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With those smart-idlers or whatever they're called I would imagine you could save some fuel.

Smart-idlers are found on contractors generators and are OK for small power tools and light bulbs. They do not supply 120 volt 60 hz power the instant a large load is switched on. Good way to fry the electronics on your furnace and fridge. Not good for a well pump either.
 

Charles (in GA)

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Wow, I never knew you could bury a propane tank...?

They make special tanks for underground use. They have extra tall "conning towers" and some I've seen have been coated with something similar to Rhino Liner, others with a thick plastic coating.

Couple of places I pass by have dozens of these tanks awaiting new customers and the underground tanks are very different looking.

Charles
 

CNGsaves

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Nice install for your genset ran by LP with large buried LP tank.

Your preparedness definitely paid off, and like you say unusual weather WILL happen more in future so your efforts were well worth it.

Likely in CT your buried LP tank is more for cosmetic reasons or for local codes. Conversely, buried LP tanks are absolutely critical in states like FL, LA, MS, etc or other coastal towns where flooding chances are quite high and last thing you want is a big tank full of LP floating around when wave of water blasts through the neighborhood!

Curious what your cost per gallon was for recent LP tank refill?
 
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