Some Woodstove in fireplace questions

[zkdiesel]

So wife has to have a woodstove as that’s what she grew up with all the time, free supply of wood scraps as her dads a chainsaw carver
Purchased a gently used hearthstone craftsbury ceramic coated stove with interior soapstone

She’s kinda going for the look over function... she even installed fancy glass tile inside the fireplace opening around the stove.

She wants it mounted in the fireplace opening, have standard opening and this small stove would just fit in height wise so we knocked 6” of brick out of the top and moved the angle iron support up, so it looks porportional in the opening(34” tall now)
Anyways, my chimneys to big for the flew size, so what’s best way to do it ? 316 to stainless corrugated chimney liner tubing through the dampener then all the way to the top of my standard masonry chimney?
Do I smash the 6” corrugated tubing oval to get it through the damper or purchase some of the round to oval adaptors to get it through? Is the corrugated the best stuff to use? Chimney angles back after dampener door so it’s not as simple as straight up with smooth tubing

Next question. Stove has rear heat shield but no blower? Do you guys feel blowers are worth adding? Or a box fan nearby just as good? Or what about the heat powered top mount fans that provide circulation? Looking for options as I don’t know how good heat transfer to room will be with stove
Completely inside fireplace opening.
Stoves good for a 1200ish square foot area, House is about 2300 with the main rooms being a very open floor plan. This is just suplimental heat for her when she’s cold at night and doing stuff, so don’t plan on heating whole house or bedrooms, house on geo thermal so bills aren’t to bad on heating as it is.
Just looking for advise from people who’ve done something
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[G McKay]

They have really good websites for stuff like this. (No offense to the guys on here.)

Try:

hearth.com

 

[shedfullatools]

So wife has to have a woodstove as that’s what she grew up with all the time, free supply of wood scraps as her dads a chainsaw carver
Purchased a gently used hearthstone craftsbury ceramic coated stove with interior soapstone

She’s kinda going for the look over function... she even installed fancy glass tile inside the fireplace opening around the stove.

She wants it mounted in the fireplace opening, have standard opening and this small stove would just fit in height wise so we knocked 6” of brick out of the top and moved the angle iron support up, so it looks porportional in the opening(34” tall now)
Anyways, my chimneys to big for the flew size, so what’s best way to do it ? 316 to stainless corrugated chimney liner tubing through the dampener then all the way to the top of my standard masonry chimney?
Do I smash the 6” corrugated tubing oval to get it through the damper or purchase some of the round to oval adaptors to get it through? Is the corrugated the best stuff to use? Chimney angles back after dampener door so it’s not as simple as straight up with smooth tubing

Next question. Stove has rear heat shield but no blower? Do you guys feel blowers are worth adding? Or a box fan nearby just as good? Or what about the heat powered top mount fans that provide circulation? Looking for options as I don’t know how good heat transfer to room will be with stove
Completely inside fireplace opening.
Stoves good for a 1200ish square foot area, House is about 2300 with the main rooms being a very open floor plan. This is just suplimental heat for her when she’s cold at night and doing stuff, so don’t plan on heating whole house or bedrooms, house on geo thermal so bills aren’t to bad on heating as it is.
Just looking for advise from people who’ve done something
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Use the proper adapters to get it through, corrugated tend to be made of much heavier steel and last longer than the sectional ones in my experience. Blowers are good but a fan nearby tends to do just as good a job for a stove, if its inside a fireplace or an insert, a blower is a worthwhile investment and the heat wont get out well without it.

 

[Williamtell]

There are a few great fireplace / wood burning stove forums.

Firewood horders forum and hearth forum.

They both are actually really good forums that are like garagejournal for people who are into saving money by using wood burning stoves.

If you have questions about what to do and what material is safe those are your places. People in cold climates with little else to do are pretty open to sharing their knowledge with others.

 

[jake00]

Yea, the forums on hearth.com, it’s like this place but for all things fireplace

 

[kaymccampbell]

We have one in the studio. I popped the damper and ran stainless flex from the stove to a few feet inside the tile liner. Then stuffed the gap with rock wool for a couple feet. It doesn't leak and it flexes/slides appropriately for the expansion/contraction of the flex tube, etc.

 

[VWingman]

I have an insert and am using a 6" inch insulated chimney flex liner. I did have to ovalize the bottom 2' or so to fit through the damper. I have an insulated block off plate just above the stove and below the damper to keep that heat from going upward. The top cap is also sealed.
The insert has a blower but I still use a small fan moving air toward the stove along the floor. That does a pretty good job of warming the back rooms.
I used the Hearth as my resources for my install.

 

[Sawdustmaker]

No matter what you do, keep an eye on creosote (sp?) buildup in the flue liner of the chimney. A chimney fire is a bad thing. Even with a concrete flue liner in a masonary chimney. A firey hot gob of burning creosote can land on your roof and spoil your day. Also, a chimney fire (in case you haven't experienced one) sounds like a freight train.

 

[kbs2244]

The fan is a good idea.
If you are in power our country get a 12 VDC fan, a battery, and a charger.

I got one at a truck stop.
They sell them as extra windshield defrost.

I never turned the fan off and plugged in the charger overnight once a week.

 

[zkdiesel]

Wife got it done, she did almost all of the work herself. Still needs to clean the brick as all the ones she did cut have dust attached to but it looks good! Once the wood reddens up it will fit in with the stove that’s working well

 

[VWingman]

That looks awesome. Tell her she did a great job as did you for what help you gave.

 

[drmarkr]

That looks great!!

We have a pellet stove insert in our 3700 sq ft house here in Tucson....granted, heat isn't that big a dealio here, but we put this thing in 5-6 years ago, and haven't used the heat pump more than 3-4 times in those 5+ years! The thing kicks azz....

 

[58Yeoman]

Tell your wife that she did a great job. We have a real fireplace in the living room, with a gas log setup in it that was there when we bought the house 9 years ago. We've used the gas logs once or twice in that time. We also have a wood stove in the family room in the basement that we use often in the winter time. I've been debating putting a wood stove insert into the fireplace to use all this extra wood we've been cutting up.

 

[NUTTSGT]

The stove and fire place looks nice. I think you married a keeper.

 

[zkdiesel]

Thanks guys. She did a wonderful job! Took a while but steady progress, she just wanted no part of the standing on the roof in winter doing chimney liner install and top cap fab to work with top of existing cap. Cut the flew door in two pieces and fit it back around liner so it’s fairly tight for air loss. Stove puts out decent heat and she likes it. Cutting all the rock to fit it with staggered joints tested her patience, but had very little ways and excess material.

 

[TractorJeff]

Quote "Or what about the heat powered top mount fans that provide circulation?"
They don't (ECO-Fan) blow, they spin making you think they are doing you good but in reality they are useless advertising. I usually never take them out of the box, just re-gift them to someone else! Admittedly we have one on top of the woodstove that the wife unboxed being seeing the lack of performance.
It is handy for a visual aid as to how hot the fire is burning!

Not to overly criticize kaymccampbell for the stove pipe to chimney install. My coal stove down stairs is basically the same way. We burn wood in it and once its going it runs 24/7 for the winter season duration.

 

[930dreamer]

Looks super! I'm still looking for a vintage Fisher insert for our family room.

 

[Bretny]

That looks real nice.
I would do a fan on that setup because the woodstove is so far back in the fireplace. 12v setup like someone said is a good idea. You want a slow speed fan. Moving hot air fast cools it.

 

[zkdiesel]

Running out of room behind it but working in trying to find a 12v fan to install behind it that turns slow. Anyone have suggestions?

Also she found her wood basket for cutoffs in the shop, can anyone see what it is?

 

[Bretny]

You can use two fans in series to slow them. Alot of computer fans are 12v.