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Sub panel question

TireChanger

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Hello I’m looking to add a sub panel to a lean to I had built and after doing lots of research I get the idea of how it all should be wired. But now I look at my main breaker box and the neutral bar and ground bar look, full at least the ones that have a bigger screw to accept the wires from the sub panel. My question is there is a strip on top of those with smaller screws they look to be connected but I want to make sure I can tie into those with the nuetral and ground wires coming from the sub panel? One sub panel is already coming off of the main breaker box which is why the big screws are already taken.
 

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Easiest would be to add a bigger neutral bar.

Better yet, replace that main panel. If you don't, it is then maxed out after the latest addition.
 
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Easiest would be to add a bigger neutral bar.

Better yet, replace that main panel. If you don't, it is then maxed out after the latest addition.
This should be the last edition haha. Could I just add the ground and neutrals that will go to sub panel to the screws above? They look rusty
 

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That is a 2 tier neutral bar.

Odd you have a bryant main with siemens branch breakers

Is there a label on the cover? What brand is the panel?

If its a bryant panel those siemens breakers need to be replaced
 
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That is a 2 tier neutral bar.

Odd you have a bryant main with siemens branch breakers

Is there a label on the cover? What brand is the panel?

If its a bryant panel those siemens breakers need to be replaced

But you have no room for a double pole breaker for the new subpanel so i recommend replacement as well
Hello I saw no labels on panel. All of that was there before my time except the 100 amp breaker for the sub panel which was ran by an electrician for us. He uses a Murray box with seimen breakers is that ok?
 
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That is a 2 tier neutral bar.

Odd you have a bryant main with siemens branch breakers

Is there a label on the cover? What brand is the panel?

If its a bryant panel those siemens breakers need to be replaced

But you have no room for a double pole breaker for the new subpanel so i recommend replacement as well
To make it easy I should get an Eaton sub panel and use Eaton breakers in sub panel and Eaton 100 amp breaker in main breaker box? I was reading Bryant and Eaton are compatible(same company) is that correct?
 

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Hello I saw no labels on panel. All of that was there before my time except the 100 amp breaker for the sub panel which was ran by an electrician for us. He uses a Murray box with seimens breakers is that ok?
if this is a siemens panel then the bryant main should not be in there

murray was discontinued by siemens so that is fine.
 

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To make it easy I should get an Eaton sub panel and use Eaton breakers in sub panel and Eaton 100 amp breaker in main breaker box? I was reading Bryant and Eaton are compatible(same company) is that correct?
It was Bryant BR originally, then it became Westinghouse BR (Bryant was a division of Westinghouse), then Eaton bought the the electrical div. of Westinghouse, & became Cutler-Hammer BR, it's now Eaton BR.
 

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To make it easy I should get an Eaton sub panel and use Eaton breakers in sub panel and Eaton 100 amp breaker in main breaker box? I was reading Bryant and Eaton are compatible(same company) is that correct?
not if your main panel is a siemens. you have all siemens branch breakers and a bryant main. so you need to figure out what brand the panel is.
 
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