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So most of the stuff that I work on is old and old stuff has the tendency to be stubborn. By stubborn, I mean that often it just doesn't want to come apart. A great examp...

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When did shellac go out as the defacto gasket maker material? i ran into my 1st shellac gasket not to long ago. i was like wtf is this. My scrapers and razor blades were futile against it. Old timer showed me a trick to use a propane torch to heat the gasket and scrape it at the same time. made it easier, but still a pita.

glad cars dont use that stuff now. major ***** to clean.
 

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Wow this looks really useful. I have to say, I wasn't too impressed with the Blue Point scrapers Snap On sells (both the brass blade and the "knife blade" steel types. I'm curious about those KTC ceramic ones, too. What's the price on those?
 

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I work on mostly aluminum heads, so none of the sideways stuff is allowed, only a vertical razor blade. For more typical scraping I have some HF tools that seem fine, after all its the quality of the blade more than the holder.
 

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No that aint it, the best gasket scraper ever is the one made by mac it has a carbide bit on the end of it.
 

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big deal. a guy in hawaii was making them back in the mid/late 70's. i had two until someone stole them. yes, they work great.
 

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When did shellac go out as the defacto gasket maker material? i ran into my 1st shellac gasket not to long ago. i was like wtf is this. My scrapers and razor blades were futile against it. Old timer showed me a trick to use a propane torch to heat the gasket and scrape it at the same time. made it easier, but still a pita.

glad cars dont use that stuff now. major ***** to clean.

Well, if your in the NYC area and you come across a water pump or thermostat housing put together with Permatex (Indian Head or Aviation, both smell the same to me) shellac gasket sealant, I probably put it together.

Brakleen and a razor blade works for removing it.


One of the most PITA (factory applied) gaskets I've removed is the one sealing the two halves of a Honda automatic transmission case.
 
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A little story... My line of work we end up scraping gaskets off pipe joints all the time. We've always just used the standard metal scraper, grab a hammer and start the long tedious process. At one job the boss handed me a scraper that I had never seen before. I'm sure I looked at him like he was on glue... how was this square piece of carbide at the tip going to do anything?!? The first scrape with that thing and I had goose bumps. Couldn't believe it, like a tool from the gods.
 
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No that aint it, the best gasket scraper ever is the one made by mac it has a carbide bit on the end of it.

I did a search for mac scrapers and didn't see it. I'm not sure if it was a Mac that I used, but it had a square piece of carbide about a 1/4" thick at the end of a long handle. Best scraper I've ever used.
 

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Sorry guys.....the best durn gasket scraper made is closer to this:

http://www.osborn.com/XTab.aspx?cat=knot+wire+wheel+brush&grp=221TT10

I too have scraped too dang many flange gaskets off (watch out of asbestos ones, a bear to get off, and will kill 'ya in about 15 to 30 years!).

That is definitely the only tool worthwhile to use for flange gaskets, especially flanges that have ribbed faces. These are guys are talking for mostly automotive purposes though.
 

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The best gasket scrapers are the made by yourself gasket scrapers.I use a couple made out of old junk files since they are not covered under warranty by most tool companies.Cut a certain length section off and grind a cutting edge on it.Easy to sharpen when they get dull.Watch out when scraping off of anything aluminum,you can gouge if you are not careful.
 

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I did a search for mac scrapers and didn't see it. I'm not sure if it was a Mac that I used, but it had a square piece of carbide about a 1/4" thick at the end of a long handle. Best scraper I've ever used.

I have one of those MAC scrapers at work and it does a great job with out gouging what you use it on.
 

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I just like using a very sharp wood chisel. Works fine on steel but ya gota be a little carefull on aluminum.
 

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When did shellac go out as the defacto gasket maker material? i ran into my 1st shellac gasket not to long ago. i was like wtf is this. My scrapers and razor blades were futile against it. Old timer showed me a trick to use a propane torch to heat the gasket and scrape it at the same time. made it easier, but still a pita.

glad cars dont use that stuff now. major ***** to clean.

We used boiled linseed oil for gasketing on steam turbine cases. The sealing flanges were about 8 inches wide, and about 4 inches thick. Whetstones were used to prep the cleaned surfaces before application of the linseed oil to the surface. Getting the old stuff off was a real job.
 

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I did a search for mac scrapers and didn't see it. I'm not sure if it was a Mac that I used, but it had a square piece of carbide about a 1/4" thick at the end of a long handle. Best scraper I've ever used.

thats the one, an old guy i used to work with had it and I havent been able to find one like it.
 

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I use good wood chisels. Stiff, sharp,very controllable and come in different widths. I don't use this set on wood though so don't blast me wood fans.:)
 

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The best one I've used was homemade from a 1/4" piece of steel with a square carbide machining insert on the end of it.
 

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I just used mine last week on some exhaust flange gaskets and it is a very good scraper. It is a piece of carbide on the end of a thick blade. It's great on machined surfaces because it's completely flat. If you need to get off the toughest gaskets and rust, you won't find a better scraper. It's solid enough to put some a** into it and never bend or break.
 

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They are very good. I have a couple along with a couple KTC steel scrapers.


ricleh,

What are the model numbers of both the KTC ceramic and steel scrapers you own?

Have you used much both types of KTC scrapers? If yes, does the ceramic perform better in removing gaskets and cause less damage to aluminum than the steel ones?


Thanks,

Dave
 

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ricleh,

What are the model numbers of both the KTC ceramic and steel scrapers you own?

Have you used much both types of KTC scrapers? If yes, does the ceramic perform better in removing gaskets and cause less damage to aluminum than the steel ones?


Thanks,

Dave

With aluminum you just need to be careful and go slowly. Either the steel or the ceramic scrapers will go a good job. Sometimes I use hard plastic scrapers on aluminum. It just depends on the situation. Snapon sells a mastic removal kit that works well on soft metals. It is sold through the industrial division of Snapon, not the automotive division. The part numbers for the scrapers I bought are:

KZ-12S
KZ4-12~18

Both part numbers include two scrapers. You can get a description on the KTC website.
 

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ricleh,

I am a newbie when it comes to removing gaskets with scrapers. I want to be prepared when the time comes with the necessary scrapers and information.

Would you care to elaborate on the situations when you would use steel, ceramic, and plastic scrapers?

Are ceramic scrapers safer to use on aluminum than steel ones?


Thanks,

Dave
 
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