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Tracing A Dead Outlet

jamesemery728

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It has worked fine for 4 years and now its dead. Checked all the GFI's in the house and garage, all the circuit breakers, no power at the lines hooking to the outlet. Any hints as to how I go about tracking this down?
 
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D KRAGER

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Where is it located? Which room? Would it be connected to other outlets? Interior or outside wall?

I would start be checking wires in the outlets on each side of it. Make sure all connections there are good.
 

6t7gto

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wall switch controlling it?
we lived in our house a couple of years before i figured out a wall switch on the kitchen wall controlled a receptacle behind the couch in the family room.
 
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jamesemery728

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It's in the kitchen.
Interior wall.
No wall switch controlling it.
All other outlets are working, I am sure other outlets must be wired in with this one but everything else seems to be working ok.
Worked for 4 years before this.
It's not the outlet, I checked direct to the wires.
 

mhm993

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If the wires to the outlet are not energized, and the wires coming out of the breaker are energized (not sure if that's what you meant when you checked the breaker), you know there's either a bad/loose connection in a junction box or at the prior outlet in the circuit, or a nail recently driven into the wall through the wire. Or well cooked rodents in the walls, I suppose.
 
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tdkkart

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Had a lightning strike lately?? I've seen lightning strikes smoke the connections in junction boxes.

If I had to guess I'd say check the pigtail connections in the outlet boxes either side of the bad outlet, probably got one of those wonderful wire nuts that loosened up.

The original owner of our house built it, I have the complete set of prints for the house, including wiring diagrams, which are real handy when you're trying to figure out which switches do what, and why that electric baseboard thermostat doesn't seem to do anything, because the electric floor heat mat under the kitchen floor no longer exists.
 
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Gary S

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It is very difficult to trace the path unless you wired it yourself and know the path.
I recently had to do the same thing in my Son's house. Part of a circuit went dead leaving one bedroom and the hallway light without power. He knew which breaker is was on, so that helped us somewhat. We pulled out all the light switches, light fixtures, and receptacles involved hoping to find a loose or broken wire. Nothing was to be found, but in pulling them we learned that most of the wires came down through the walls from the attic and back up there to go on to the next place.
By counting the wires in the boxes and the wires needed, it became obvious that there had to be a junction box in the attic somewhere to tie it all together, and we assumed at that point that the bad connection was up there. His attic has 18" of loose insulation blown in up there, so looking for it wasn't an option.
Instead of finding the impossible bad connection, we opted to parallel a new wire from the last good receptacle down through the floor into the basement and back up to the first dead one. We fixed it by bypassing the break because we couldn't get to the break to fix it right.
 
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jamesemery728

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Found it. Feel stupid. Went back thru and checked all the GFI's and one of them was tripped. Had this happen B4 in this house and there are GFI's all over the place, on the porches, under the house, in the basement, bathrooms, garage, kitchen. I don't know how I missed it, probably have to blame my wife (LOL). Thanks for the help, maybe your comments will help someone else in the future.
 

D KRAGER

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Yea I'd start by opening up all the boxes in the kitchen and in the room behind the kitchen. Look for loose connections in any box you can see. Move on from there.
 

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Another thing to check are those "backwire" terminals, the kind you just push the wire into the hole in the back of the receptacle. Some people like them; I am not a fan. Use the screws.

My two cents...
 
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