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ponjohn

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I've read the other threads.

What is unclear, are the other installations being installed in a working garage?

I am not referring to a professional auto repair shop but, a garage where jacks, jack stands and fluids are going to be used and spilled?

Thanks.
 
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I’ve seen people do big jobs on sheet vinyl and not mess it up a bit and others chip and burn their concrete floor. It just depends on what work you are doing, what you do to protect the floor and how hard are you on things in general.
 

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LVP may work just fine. Just note that it is a "floating flooring" so it is not physically attached to the floor. It needs to be able to move around a little as it expands and contracts and will perform better in a controlled temp environment.

Nothing should be secured through the flooring that would prevent it from moving. (Example is a kitchen island, they don't want that sitting on top and being screwed through the flooring)

LVP is pretty durable and handles moisture well but I don't know that any manufacturers would rate it for a garage but I honestly haven't looked to see. I also worry that turning the wheels on a vehicle could cause damage, or separate planks.
 

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I've read the other threads.

What is unclear, are the other installations being installed in a working garage?

I am not referring to a professional auto repair shop but, a garage where jacks, jack stands and fluids are going to be used and spilled?

Thanks.
@duneslider is correct. Though LVP is very durable, it was designed for foot traffic and furniture. It was not designed for the weight and force that can be applied by vehicles. If you are pulling fairly straight in and out of the garage it most likely will not be an issue. Where you can run into problems is turning the wheels when the vehicle is not moving or not moving much. The locking mechanisms are not designed for the twisting forces that are applied by car tires. In addition, the vinyl surface is not rated for exposure to petroleum products. I would get a sample of what you are interested in first to see how it stands up to 24-hour exposure to oil, gas, and other chemicals you think it may encounter.
 

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'garage rated'

 
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@duneslider is correct. Though LVP is very durable, it was designed for foot traffic and furniture. It was not designed for the weight and force that can be applied by vehicles. If you are pulling fairly straight in and out of the garage it most likely will not be an issue. Where you can run into problems is turning the wheels when the vehicle is not moving or not moving much. The locking mechanisms are not designed for the twisting forces that are applied by car tires. In addition, the vinyl surface is not rated for exposure to petroleum products. I would get a sample of what you are interested in first to see how it stands up to 24-hour exposure to oil, gas, and other chemicals you think it may encounter.
Do your statements apply to the NewAge LVT tiles? Your comments are completely contradictory of what is stated in your review from last month. I'm confused.

 
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I've installed the vinyl plank in my home, stuff is tough as nails, and is kicking my real 3/4" hardwoods *** in terms of durability and such. That said, no way in hell would it last again even one session of a car on jack stands. It's thin layer of vinyl and simply isn't gonna survive.
 
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Do your statements apply to the NewAge LVT tiles? Your comments are completely contradictory of what is stated in your review from last month. I'm confused.

I think you may want to read the article :) We state why New Age defies the rules with an LVP designed specifically for a garage floor environment.
 

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I think you may want to read the article :) We state why New Age defies the rules with an LVP designed specifically for a garage floor environment.
I did read the article, which is why I asked if your comments above applied specifically to the NewAge LVT flooring.
 

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LVP may work just fine. Just note that it is a "floating flooring" so it is not physically attached to the floor. It needs to be able to move around a little as it expands and contracts and will perform better in a controlled temp environment...
I would re-think that. While engineered wood floors and composite floors are always floating, LVP is often allowed to be glued down to concrete. As always, consult the manufacturer's instructions before following such advice.

I've installed the vinyl plank in my home, stuff is tough as nails, and is kicking my real 3/4" hardwoods *** in terms of durability and such. That said, no way in hell would it last again even one session of a car on jack stands. It's thin layer of vinyl and simply isn't gonna survive.
I have about 900 sq-ft of vinyl, and my parents and friends all now have rooms of similar stuff. They're not all the same, and in this instance, it is the core that matters. My in-laws have an expanded rock core that's designed to have lower sound transmission (they chose the floor on the image, and not on the properties), and it got dented where I dropped something. The core on mine is quite solid, and I could easily see jack stands being used on it.

The wear layer isn't even vinyl. It's got more aluminum oxide than binder nowadays.
 

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I installed NewAge LVP in our showroom at work. We sell Pianos, Grands and uprights. I've rolled pianos across it and they haven't left any marks. We have them directly on the casters on the floor with no indents left after months of sitting there. I would have no hesitation using the NewAge flooring in a garage.
Get yourself the sample pack from NewAge, it'll change your mind. The stuff is tough, thick wear layer and it's heavy. I haven't noticed it shrinking and expanding with temperature changes either.
 

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I would re-think that. While engineered wood floors and composite floors are always floating, LVP is often allowed to be glued down to concrete. As always, consult the manufacturer's instructions before following such advice.


I have about 900 sq-ft of vinyl, and my parents and friends all now have rooms of similar stuff. They're not all the same, and in this instance, it is the core that matters. My in-laws have an expanded rock core that's designed to have lower sound transmission (they chose the floor on the image, and not on the properties), and it got dented where I dropped something. The core on mine is quite solid, and I could easily see jack stands being used on it.

The wear layer isn't even vinyl. It's got more aluminum oxide than binder nowadays.
Most lvp cores used to be made out of some type of wood material 4-5 years ago, although recently most are made out of some type of "solid" or "stone" as it's advertised, which is usually limestone.

I would not and have not heard of people gluing down LVP (planks), and would strongly recommend against that for a bunch of reasons. 1) you still need a vapor barrier if youre doing it on concrete and 2) if you have to replace it ever, which you will, its going to be awful.

Even my stone core LVP that I got a couple years ago says you need a vapor barrier (in the fine print) despite all the marketing **** about them being waterproof, having that squishy backing glued on the back already, etc.

When I got mine there were videos of people lighting them on fire, beating them with a hammer, and leaving them underwater for days at a time. I did all of that just to "test" them. They technically held up, once, but I wouldn't waste the effort for a garage.
 

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I would re-think that. While engineered wood floors and composite floors are always floating, LVP is often allowed to be glued down to concrete. As always, consult the manufacturer's instructions before following such advice.


I have about 900 sq-ft of vinyl, and my parents and friends all now have rooms of similar stuff. They're not all the same, and in this instance, it is the core that matters. My in-laws have an expanded rock core that's designed to have lower sound transmission (they chose the floor on the image, and not on the properties), and it got dented where I dropped something. The core on mine is quite solid, and I could easily see jack stands being used on it.

The wear layer isn't even vinyl. It's got more aluminum oxide than binder nowadays.
You certainly seem to know more than I do, I haven't been installing all this stuff professionally for a few years now and I avoided the lower end options.

LVP by definition is Vinyl material
SPC by definition is Stone polymer composite
Manufacturers are always coming up with some new gimmick to try and sell.
Technically speaking if it isn't all vinyl it isn't LVP but I don't really care much what people call it. Sure you can get flooring in glue down or floating versions. I never ran into anyone that wanted to glue lvp down, they all looked at it like throw away flooring and wanted it easy to change in 5 years when the trend changed and they wanted to change colors. I really don't care what flooring people pick, there are ups and downs to all the options. I still don't think most laminates, spc's, lvp's, designed for interior home use aren't a good idea to use in the garage. There obviously are some products designed specifically for that use area. However, I still think in some people's cases they might not have any issues with these floorings in their garages.

I think regular concrete is the best option for my garage. I know! Crazy!
 

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I did read the article, which is why I asked if your comments above applied specifically to the NewAge LVT flooring.
OK, now I'm confused. :) The statements I made above apply to traditional vinyl plank flooring that is used in home, office, and other environments intended for foot traffic. In the article, we explain exactly how New Age LVT flooring counteracts those very same reasons due to the materials used, construction, and locking mechanism of the plank flooring.
 

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OK, now I'm confused. :) The statements I made above apply to traditional vinyl plank flooring that is used in home, office, and other environments intended for foot traffic. In the article, we explain exactly how New Age LVT flooring counteracts those very same reasons due to the materials used, construction, and locking mechanism of the plank flooring.
I think we're on the same page here, and perhaps our communications are lost in internet translation. Had you mentioned in your original comments that NewAge is the exception, or if there was a link to your article, then it would have been clearer to those reading the general statements about traditional vinyl plank flooring. It's all good.
 

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I used a Mohawk branded flooring in the house, it's the core is realitively thick and supposedly has enough wood build into you can sell it has hardwood. As I mentioned though, you can and will cut the vinyl off the top of it with any sort of heavy garage-type use. I don't question it's ability to be able to drive or park cars on, I just wouldn't want to have to worry about damaging it everytime I was working on my cars.
 
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