Champion 3400-Watt Wireless Start Inverter/Generator

So this is the 3400-Watt inverter/generator from Champion Power Equipment. What sets this generator apart from the field are two obvious things really:

First, you can find this generator brand new for under $1000 if you shop smart. Given the feature set, this is pretty damned cheap.

And secondly, it’s absolutely ready to go out of the box. You don’t have to buy any accessories to get the most out of it. You just put some oil in it, do the break in procedure, and then change the oil as you saw in the video above. Once done, you’re done.

But lets look at some of the competition to see where it stacks in the market.

At the low end, you have the Harbor Freight Predator. It’s a 3500-watt generator that runs around $750 depending on what coupon you have and what time of the month it is. It’s also pretty quiet. In fact, on paper it’s quieter than this Champion by something like 2db at 25 feet.

To be honest, the only real reason I didn’t consider the Predator was that I didn’t want to have to worry about reliability. Earned or not, Harbor Freight has a reputation as a discount supplier and that concerned me quite a bit… and as such, I took an early pass on the cheap alternative.

Of course, on the high end you have HONDA. Their comparable generator is the EU3000iS. This is a 3000-watt generator that is literally built like a brick shit house. I borrowed one from a friend last year and was impressed by not only the build quality, but just how quietly it operated.

When I started shopping generators, I just assumed I would end up with the Honda. I’ve always felt that spending more once beats spending less multiple times and there is not a doubt in my mind that the Honda would run forever.  But frankly, the $2000 price tag was just more than I wanted to spend. Plus, the Honda weighs around 140 pounds fully loaded, doesn’t come with a mobile base of any kind and is a bear to move around.

So I kept shopping and found this Champion. On paper, it provides more power than the Honda, weights about 30 pounds less when loaded, and is completely kitted out with a mobile base and a sort of dolly handle right out of the box. All of this for half the price of the red brick house.  It all sounded a bit too good to be true and I worried that the Champion would be too loud to justify the price difference, but I was willing to take a chance and got the Champion delivered.

Turns out, it is certainly louder than the Honda and if noise is your biggest concern, that $1000 price difference might be justified. But to my ears, it’s really not that much louder. In fact, I found the difference negligible. Plus, the Champion has a little trick up its sleeve – one that neither the Predator or the Honda can match. A simple little remote.

If you are using the Champion on a job-site as I simulated in the shop, you just start the generator from the tool when you are ready to work and then cut it off just as easily when you are done. It’s seamless, simple, and efficient.

But where I really love the remote is when we are camping. If my batteries are running low and I need to charge, I just hit the remote, let the generator charge the batteries in the camper and then cut it off – all without leaving my beer or the comfy confines of the old trailer. It’s really changed the way my son and I choose where we camp. The flexibility of the Champion is fantastic.

But all of these fancy features and plasticity is pointless if the thing isn’t durable. I’ve had the generator for a while now and I’ve literally beat the hell out of it. I used it for a solid week in my shop as the sole source of power while building a cabinet – starting and stopping with each 120v power tool use, I ran it for almost 72 straight hours to power the heater in our trailer, and I’ve thrown it in and out of my truck bed probably close to 100 times (yes, it fits under a tonneau cover). The Champion never complained.

And it’s done pretty great with fuel to. Champion claims the generator is capable of 7.5 hours on its 1.6 gallon tank. In eco-mode with a light load (trailer lights and battery charger only) I’m actually averaging about 8 hours on a single tank. If I crank up the a/c or the heater, the generator is still capable of running on eco, but run time on a single tank drops to around 4.5 hours or so.

This is not a paid endorsement. I just really like this damned thing… And after owning it for a few months and using the hell out of it, I can wholeheartedly recommend it to anyone that needs a flexible, relatively quiet form of power on the go. I think it would be great for a guy that does light job-site work and perfect for the guy like me that wants to power a small outfit on wheels.

I any case, you can read more about the specs here. And obviously, I’d be happy to answer any questions about my experience with it.

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Ryan, another great review.

I was amazed at the remote starter, makes sense to be able to do that.

Thank you for sharing.

On a side note, how do you like the Festools?
 
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Ryan, another great review.

I was amazed at the remote starter, makes sense to be able to do that.

Thank you for sharing.

On a side note, how do you like the Festools?

Thanks man...

Festool. I think it's mostly over-priced unless you really, really value dust collection. I do, so I'm pretty happy with *most* of the Festool stuff that I own.
 

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Good review. I've had this generator on my car trailer for almost two years now. I love it.
 

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We've had a couple of Champion units - all good stuff. Would have gone with this one but we use more power at the track than it can handle. For power in this range, I'd pick the Champ in a minute over the HF item.
 

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Any electric start generator can be made into remote start with a cheap vehicle remote start, there about $50. But inless your going to put an ATS and keep the generator hooked up a remote start will only be usefull a few times. It still only runs so many hours before refuel
 
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Any electric start generator can be made into remote start with a cheap vehicle remote start, there about $50. But inless your going to put an ATS and keep the generator hooked up a remote start will only be usefull a few times. It still only runs so many hours before refuel

Absolutely... It's just really nice that the Champion comes ready to go.

As for usefulness, I disagree. At least how I use the generator, it is incredibly useful to have the little remote. At first, I was concerned that having the generator "on" and ready for the remote start would drain the battery, but it hasn't been a problem at all... When we are camping or at an event, I just set the generator to the on position and use the remote to start and stop it all day long... It's been fantastic really.
 

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I've got the Honda 2000 and have used it for 9 years now. When we first bought it, we used it together with our Airstream Trailer for Camping. After our first use I had buyer remorse, imagine spending $700.00 for a generator. However, we soon realized the other benefits and now wouldn't want to be without it.
Your Champion 3400 looks like it is very good value! I really like the Electric Remote Start and the Wheels!
 

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HAHA. My wife puts me in the trailer when I drink too!!
But seriously besides you running the thing indoors:shocking: it looks pretty nice.
As usual the presentation was great!
 
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Looks like you enjoyed yourself making that video. Do you think it was wise to run the unit inside whilst using power tools? I would never run my Gen Set inside with out decent ventilation.

That was for the video footage... I ran it outside.
 

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I have been thinking about buying a generator for a while now - just as an emergency backup thing....

It's funny you ended up with the Champion because I keep looking at a Champion on Costco that is very similar. Costco's is a little smaller/cheaper has electric start (no remote) but what really has me interested in this particular model is it is 'dual fuel' -> Gasoline or Propane.

They claim 19 hours on a 20lb tank of propane, which is a pretty long run time vs 8 hours on a tank of gas (1.6 gals). The other thing if you just mainly used propane - you don't have to worry about all the problems with stale/bad gas.

I am wondering what your thoughts are on this one - were you aware of it and decided on the wireless remote one that you bought, didn't fit your needs or what? (it has great reviews on Costco - https://www.costco.com/Champion-DUA...ertified,-Low-Decibels.product.100284958.html)

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>After our first use I had buyer remorse, imagine spending $700.00 for a generator.

LOL. Our Honda was $3800 used. No remorse.
 
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I have been thinking about buying a generator for a while now - just as an emergency backup thing....

It's funny you ended up with the Champion because I keep looking at a Champion on Costco that is very similar. Costco's is a little smaller/cheaper has electric start (no remote) but what really has me interested in this particular model is it is 'dual fuel' -> Gasoline or Propane.

They claim 19 hours on a 20lb tank of propane, which is a pretty long run time vs 8 hours on a tank of gas (1.6 gals). The other thing if you just mainly used propane - you don't have to worry about all the problems with stale/bad gas.

I am wondering what your thoughts are on this one - were you aware of it and decided on the wireless remote one that you bought, didn't fit your needs or what? (it has great reviews on Costco - https://www.costco.com/Champion-DUA...ertified,-Low-Decibels.product.100284958.html)

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I saw this and considered it... I just liked the idea of the remote start and at the moment don't have a real need for dual fuel...
 

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Diggin' the Airstream. You put a lot of effort into it, and it has a great look in and out.
I think if it was mine, I'd throw on a set of milk-wagon wheels with wide whites just to give it a rodney look.
 
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We bought our 3100 Oct 2017 for just over $800. We love it, I can power it up while camping to run the coffee maker in the AM without going outside. Or fire it up to watch a movie. Makes it easy for the better half to use it to do anything in camper while up north. Agreed about to you have to fill it up sometime with fuel. The battery gets charged every time you run it..
 
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Nice bargain genset. Well packaged and nicely featured.

For occasional/ and light use it should hold up pretty well.

If you are putting high hours on it, the delta you pay for a Honda or Yamaha becomes worth it based on the valve inspection interval alone which is double or more what this genset is at 100 hour intervals.


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Eventually, parts will need to be replaced. Are replacement parts available for Champion generators?

:)
 

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At some price point, replacement parts availability is a moot point.

This site is populated by tinkerers, but the reality is that if a generator lasts a few thousand hours, that’s a lifetime for 99% of users, and paying 3x as much for a Honda is economic foolishness.

No data, other than anecdotes, to suggest that the 3x premium gets you any additional life, either.
 

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What kind of response is that? :headscrat


It is a gas powered, $950 generator that will need to be maintained.

:)

Oil changes and a new spark plug are all I would expect to be needed as far as maintenance over the life of a generator.

Although not an electrical device, my Stihl dealer strongly recommended that I not have them look at my Stihl (xxxPro Model) weed Walker, as the labor cost would possibly exceed the value of the tool. Same with my scored MS460 Magnum chainsaw.

Small engine labor / shop time here here is $125/ hour. If the thing is functional for five years, it is cheaper to replace rather than rebuild.

And do you know for a fact that service parts aren’t available, or is that speculation?

For reference, my neighbor had a rectifier failure on his name brand roll around battery charger (I can’t remember the brand). A replacement rectifier was well over half the cost of a new charger, not including labor.

Like it or not, consumer goods are no longer economically serviceable, given today’s labor rates. That ship has sailed.
 
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Eventually, parts will need to be replaced. Are replacement parts available for Champion generators?

:)
Third hand, YES ! And they try to stock them in the US !

Thank you theoldwizard1 :thumbup:

I also downloaded the Owner's Manual and it specifies to adjust valve clearance (100 hours) and Clean combustion chamber (250 hours) with the note "To be performed by knowledgeable, experienced owners or Champion Power Equipment certified dealers."

The Owner's Manual also contain a detailed parts list diagram and list all the components part numbers.

Champion's website also say the following: "All replacement parts are stocked in our facilities in Southern California and Burlington, ON, Canada."

Having replacement parts in Canada is very convenient, as I am in Canada.

It seems obvious that Champion does not consider this generator as being a throw away item.

:)
 

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Thank you theoldwizard1 :thumbup:

I also downloaded the Owner's Manual and it specifies to adjust valve clearance (100 hours) and Clean combustion chamber (250 hours) with the note "To be performed by knowledgeable, experienced owners or Champion Power Equipment certified dealers."

The Owner's Manual also contain a detailed parts list diagram and list all the components part numbers.

Champion's website also say the following: "All replacement parts are stocked in our facilities in Southern California and Burlington, ON, Canada."

Having replacement parts in Canada is very convenient, as I am in Canada.

It seems obvious that Champion does not consider this generator as being a throw away item.

:)

Try ordering parts and you will find they do view them as disposable generators, we no longer try to repair them as we could never get the parts.
 

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I don't see the value in remote start. Time and money wasted keeping the battery maintained has to outweigh the hassle of a few pulls of a rope.
 

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I can see it

If you're in your trailer or RV out camping somewhere and you want to fire up the generator in the morning to make a cup of coffee, cook breakfast, etc - it's would be a lot easier to just push the button on the wireless remote. It's a convenience thing
 

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I don't see the value in remote start. Time and money wasted keeping the battery maintained has to outweigh the hassle of a few pulls of a rope.

As with my Honda "elect" start gen I wonder if you just plug it in to the RV batt. you are maintaing anyway?
 
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