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As quality tools get harder and harder to find, I'm considering getting into truck brands. I searched for but didn't find a thread comparing the different brands.

If you are a truck customer, from which trucks do you buy and what do you like most, or least, about their tools. I'm not looking for the quality or courtesy of the operator; that can vary or change, but what about the tools themselves, and warranty/repair/replacement?
 
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For pure “quality of tools” it’s probably got to be Snap On. Go into any aircraft maintenance facility, worldwide, and you will find almost exclusively Snap On.

I have some Snap On, and some Mac. Snap On are first class in every respect, PROVIDED you buy the “hard line” tools that they manufacture themselves. Even Snap On are forced to rebrand some items to offer the range they are committed to, and these are poor value.

I quite like some things about Mac tools, but the proportion of genuine Mac, made in USA, tools gets smaller each year, and I’m not convinced the quality is up there with Snap On anyway. Many of the tools I see on a Mac truck are Facom, Facom rebrands, or Taiwanese. Nothing wrong with Facom, but I’m not paying truck prices for it.

I have little experience of Matco. The ratchets seem nice, and some are / were quite unique, but generally the tools seem unexceptional to me.

Is there any reason why you specifically want a truck brand? There is literally a world of tools out there, many of very high quality, that don’t have to be bought from trucks. What you will have to do is buy your sockets and accessories from one maker, pliers from another, and so on.

If you are looking at sockets and accessories for example, and just wanted good quality, I’d be looking at Proto, Wright, Hazet, Stahlwille, Elora, Gedore, Facom, Koken, and KTC etc, before considering truck brands.
 
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Thanks, Dave. You just blew my whole plan - but thank you for doing it. Because there are so many brands, and so many brands that were even recently all made in the US (apoligies since I see you're from the UK). But, as you point out, all of those once-made-in-the-US brands are no longer that so my plan was flawed from the beginning.

My purpose is to be able to buy quality, US made if at all possible, tools and I am hoping to not have to spend hours researching for each and every tool I want to buy. I'd just as soon pay more money and quickly get what I want but, as you point out, it won't get me what I want. So maybe I should have titled the thread "how to buy American made or other top quality tools without having to spend hours researching every tool I want to buy."
 

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Thanks, Dave. You just blew my whole plan - but thank you for doing it. Because there are so many brands, and so many brands that were even recently all made in the US (apoligies since I see you're from the UK). But, as you point out, all of those once-made-in-the-US brands are no longer that so my plan was flawed from the beginning.

My purpose is to be able to buy quality, US made if at all possible, tools and I am hoping to not have to spend hours researching for each and every tool I want to buy. I'd just as soon pay more money and quickly get what I want but, as you point out, it won't get me what I want. So maybe I should have titled the thread "how to buy American made or other top quality tools without having to spend hours researching every tool I want to buy."
No apologies needed for wanting to buy U.S. made tools.

For decades, U.S. made tools have been the best out there - bar none. Although I’m from the U.K, three generations of my family have bought U.S. made tools (Blackhawk, Williams, Armstrong, Bonney, Billings, Blue Point etc) and it was my interest that started me contributing to this forum.

Yes, it’s risky world out there. Too many big corporations want to take top money but sell you second rate, and so many of the big names of old have now gone.

Thankfully, you don’t always have to spend ages on research. Snap On, for example, list the country of origin of every tool on their website. Other manufacturers, such as Wright, still predominantly manufacture in the U.S. - and offer a different range of rebranded tools.

I’ve pretty much come round to the view that the most important thing is how much a manufacturer really cares about the tools they produce. I’ve ended up buying a lot of Japanese tools of late, simply because the best of them have become so good.
 

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If I was going to strictly rank tool truck brands, based on my personal opinion, it would be the following order:

1. Snap on
2. Cornwell
3. Matco
4. Mac

*Disclosure, I am a hobbyist that usually buys my tools second hand.

Not sure if that is what you are asking, but I just wanted to announce my favorite tool brands I guess. :ROFLMAO:
 

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Well this has been answered EXTREMELY WELL in this other thread.

There are tool truck items and the names of the companies the Tool Trucks buy from if they are not made in-house. Snappy, for example, only makes a portion of their product lines, the rest is sourced from the OEM. There are items from the other tool truck brands.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/the-truck-tool-equivalents-thread-gathering-data.136120/

Please go through the thread and when you are done in 2 weeks come back and tell us what you found.:):rolleyes:

You can get Tool Truck Quality at a better price.
 

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Another idea is to go to the local pawn shop and see if they have decent brands available. Not necessarily a money saving tip. But you can get exposed to more than one tool truck brand @ one time. Tool trucks try to hook you into buying their brand- just something to keep in mind. Certain tool truck drivers are more open to walk-on customers than others. It's more of a relationship type marketing, not necessarily who makes the best tools. But it is an experience I think people who appreciate tools should experience once in their lifetime even if you are not a professional mechanic. Hopefully you can connect with a well-stocked tool truck driver. Some tool trucks just sell toolboxes and maybe a couple of screwdrivers. I prefer a tool truck with a wide selection of hand tools even though I am not a mechanic.
 

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Well this has been answered EXTREMELY WELL in this other thread.

There are tool truck items and the names of the companies the Tool Trucks buy from if they are not made in-house. Snappy, for example, only makes a portion of their product lines, the rest is sourced from the OEM. There are items from the other tool truck brands.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/the-truck-tool-equivalents-thread-gathering-data.136120/

Please go through the thread and when you are done in 2 weeks come back and tell us what you found.:):rolleyes:

You can get Tool Truck Quality at a better price.

A lot of that thread is BS. "Close enough" and "look alike". Yeah you can get a bahco ratchet with a dual 80 head. What about the 20 other types besides a basic 3/8 drive F80 ratchet? Crickets. Because Bahco don't make an 18" locking flex 3/8 drive ratchet. Snap on rebranded snap ring pliers 30 years ago, now they make their own. Well in every snap ring pliers thread guys are parroting "buy lang it's the same as snap on" which hasn't been true for decades. The clicker torque wrenches are CDI/PI. No they are not, those brands have 30 tooth heads; snap on is 72 or 80 for 1/4-1/2 drive. That's not the same. The Armstong rathcets weren't Matco 88s, they had 60 teeth. There's a ton of rebranding going on, but that thread gets a little loose with what's a rebrand and what isn't.


IMO Williams USA line is a cheapest way to get quality USA made and a wide selection.

For the tool trucks, it's mostly about who shows up and is reliable. For just the tools, snap on is the obvious winner.
 

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If I was going to strictly rank tool truck brands, based on my personal opinion, it would be the following order:

1. Snap on
2. Cornwell
3. Matco
4. Mac

*Disclosure, I am a hobbyist that usually buys my tools second hand.

Not sure if that is what you are asking, but I just wanted to announce my favorite tool brands I guess. :ROFLMAO:
Cornwell is one tool truck brand you do not see a lot of discussions about here. Now that I said that I will be made wrong. Which is fine, but it sure seems like when tool truck brands come up it seems like Snap on, Mac and Matco are the ones discussed 90% of the time.

I have never been on one, but I believe I was told they sell a lot of other brands like Gear Wrench and SK. It may vary by region or vary truck to truck. I do not know. Someone here does, and will chime in.
 

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For decades, U.S. made tools have been the best out there - bar none.
Since exporting/importing tools decades ago was way less common, that's hard to say. Made no sense to export tools from Europe to the US since they made steel and tools on both continents.

I only checked the most famous German brands Hazet and Stahlwille, and both existed half a century before Snap On was even founded. Even knipex started out in the 19th century...

I doubt the history of Europe would be as industrial if they made low quality tools.
 

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As quality tools get harder and harder to find, I'm considering getting into truck brands. I searched for but didn't find a thread comparing the different brands.

If you are a truck customer, from which trucks do you buy and what do you like most, or least, about their tools. I'm not looking for the quality or courtesy of the operator; that can vary or change, but what about the tools themselves, and warranty/repair/replacement?
Truck brands do not equal quality. Sure there is nice stuff to be had, but there are plenty of "meh" or crappy tools too.

Also, people who are into truck brands tend to not be very objective and just root for their "team" or base their opinion on some dealer interaction or one broken tool, so I don't think you will get great answers for that. And for quality of truck service/warranty, that is going to depend more upon the individual driver than the brand itself.

I would strongly recommend against buying from tool trucks because they can have crazy markup compared to any other quality tool brand. Dave455 posted a list of other brands that are as good as or better than truck tools but at a fraction of the cost. (Inevitably someone will now reply to me and tell a story about how they have known their Snap-On guy for 53 years, he plays on their curling team, and drives to their house at 3AM to bring them new tools, so it's all worth paying 5x the cost of anybody else.)

Obviously there is a convenience factor with trucks if you work in a shop and need the tool right now or maybe this is for personal use and you might splurge on a few things you like the design of... but a higher price on its own does not equal a better tool.

Replying to your original question:
  • Snap-On is a huge company that owns many other brands internationally. Most of their truck line is US made and pretty decent quality but prices can get absurd. Blue-point is mostly imported rebrands with markups.

  • MAC is owned by Stanley Black & Decker, and a lot of stuff is based on Proto or Facom but redesigned with their own styling. Overall decent quality but you can probably buy the original Proto/Facom designs for a bit less in most cases.

  • Cornwell is a smaller independent company and offers an odd mix of vintage USA designs that have not really changed in 40 years, some new tools for the modern era, and a bunch of rebranded import stuff to cover everything else. Prices on their USA stuff tend to be a little more reasonable than other trucks albeit still fairly expensive for what you get. Imho, they are a bit more honest than most brands about what is made by them vs rebranded. Blue-power is their budget brand and all import stuff.

  • No offense to their drivers, but Matco is a joke as a tool company. I don't think they make anything besides tool boxes and almost their entire lineup is rebranded imports at 2-5x markup. Also, they keep switching suppliers so chances of getting a matching tool in a few years could be pretty low. YMMV
If you are fixated on USA made, Proto, Wright, or SK (if you can find in stock) are probably a good fit for you. If you just want good quality tools, Koken and KTC/Nepros from Japan as well as Hazet, Stahlwille, or Facom from Europe are all pretty solid bets and fairly easy to order in the US.
 

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Cornwell is one tool truck brand you do not see a lot of discussions about here. Now that I said that I will be made wrong. Which is fine, but it sure seems like when tool truck brands come up it seems like Snap on, Mac and Matco are the ones discussed 90% of the time.

I have never been on one, but I believe I was told they sell a lot of other brands like Gear Wrench and SK. It may vary by region or vary truck to truck. I do not know. Someone here does, and will chime in.

Cornwell is tough because there are so few dealers. As hard as it is to believe, the tool truck tools discussion is inherently intertwined with the driver of the route. One does not exist without the other. So unless there is a reliable Cornwell driver, people aren't going to have exposure to the tools.

All the trucks I've ever been on will have gearwrench -something- on them. Snap on actually has a 5/8 thick book called the supplemental catalog full of stuff from other brands they can order you.
 

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That is good feedback 2ndgearrubber and Tamaraw. It gives people some good insight. I used to see a Cornwall Truck all the time when I lived in the Boston Area but since moving 45 miles away(25 years ago) I can not recall the last time I saw one. I see the Snap On Truck all of the time. Two different drivers in my area. I know because they put their names on the side of the Truck. Sometimes a Mac or Matco but not often. By Far Snap On has the greatest exposure and coverage in my area, just from what I can observe. I live near some boat yards and they are frequently in them.

Tamaraw you give some good insight on brands. You are talking about value, I believe. Although you never use that word, You are describing high quality (or good enough quality) for the best pricing.

Everyone knows the mark ups on the Trucks are high. I think that is understood and accepted. There is some value to getting the service they offer. I do not know how you put a price on it. It is an individual call. Sometimes I over pay for stuff when I want it today. I often know very well what I am doing when I do it.

You do not expect the pay the same amount on the ice cream truck for that Popsicle that you would pay in a grocery store. You understand you are paying up for the mobile middleman. I have said for years now the Tool Truck is going to die off but it seems to be surviving. At least Snap On is. Dennis is always telling us the Stock is rising and dividends keep coming.

I know the service varies from driver to driver and maybe company to company.
 

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Since exporting/importing tools decades ago was way less common, that's hard to say. Made no sense to export tools from Europe to the US since they made steel and tools on both continents.

I only checked the most famous German brands Hazet and Stahlwille, and both existed half a century before Snap On was even founded. Even knipex started out in the 19th century...

I doubt the history of Europe would be as industrial if they made low quality tools.
I can only speak from family experience.

My Grandfather was the most discerning tool purchaser I’ve ever encountered.

Throughout the 20’s, 30’s and 40’s, living and working in London, he had the option of buying tools of whatever origin he wanted. (Subject to the obvious difficulties sourcing German tools during the war)!

Many German companies were desperate to export after the First World War, and regularly sent reps to the U.K. - something of a hopeless task faced with anti German sentiment, and a substantial domestic manufacturing capability. They could only hope to sell on price.

My Grandfather (a First World War veteran) related the story of walking into a tool shop in the 1920’s. The proprietor, a friend of his, said “We’ve got a GERMAN here, trying to sell tools”!

My Grandfather thought he was a brave man, possibly without much work, and together they inspected the tools (Pliers). They turned out to be decent, and very reasonably priced. Grandfather bought some (which I still have) and his friends shop continued to stock them till the Second World War.

Most of the British motor trade bought their tools through one of many distributors and trade suppliers, all of who were trying to sell something different. British, German, American - everything was available. Grandfather always went for the best, and that was (for the most part) American made.

Blackhawk socket wrenches and accessories, for example, were his favourites. He was working on heavy trucks, and American 1/2” square drive sockets were much more suited to the task than British hex drive. He also thought they were better finished.

They were also far nicer to use than the German tools. So modern were they, that even now, they get mistaken for 1960’s Britool, when in fact they are a generation older.

As a matter of interest, I have a fair number of wartime era German tools too. My father, a British airline pilot, spent a lot of time on the Channel Islands in the 50’s and 60’s and acquired a lot of used tools. They are decent, but they’re not quite the quality of the American made tools of the same era.
 
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Truck brands do not equal quality. Sure there is nice stuff to be had, but there are plenty of "meh" or crappy tools too.

Also, people who are into truck brands tend to not be very objective and just root for their "team" or base their opinion on some dealer interaction or one broken tool, so I don't think you will get great answers for that. And for quality of truck service/warranty, that is going to depend more upon the individual driver than the brand itself.

I would strongly recommend against buying from tool trucks because they can have crazy markup compared to any other quality tool brand. Dave455 posted a list of other brands that are as good as or better than truck tools but at a fraction of the cost. (Inevitably someone will now reply to me and tell a story about how they have known their Snap-On guy for 53 years, he plays on their curling team, and drives to their house at 3AM to bring them new tools, so it's all worth paying 5x the cost of anybody else.)

Obviously there is a convenience factor with trucks if you work in a shop and need the tool right now or maybe this is for personal use and you might splurge on a few things you like the design of... but a higher price on its own does not equal a better tool.

Replying to your original question:
  • Snap-On is a huge company that owns many other brands internationally. Most of their truck line is US made and pretty decent quality but prices can get absurd. Blue-point is mostly imported rebrands with markups.

  • MAC is owned by Stanley Black & Decker, and a lot of stuff is based on Proto or Facom but redesigned with their own styling. Overall decent quality but you can probably buy the original Proto/Facom designs for a bit less in most cases.

  • Cornwell is a smaller independent company and offers an odd mix of vintage USA designs that have not really changed in 40 years, some new tools for the modern era, and a bunch of rebranded import stuff to cover everything else. Prices on their USA stuff tend to be a little more reasonable than other trucks albeit still fairly expensive for what you get. Imho, they are a bit more honest than most brands about what is made by them vs rebranded. Blue-power is their budget brand and all import stuff.

  • No offense to their drivers, but Matco is a joke as a tool company. I don't think they make anything besides tool boxes and almost their entire lineup is rebranded imports at 2-5x markup. Also, they keep switching suppliers so chances of getting a matching tool in a few years could be pretty low. YMMV
If you are fixated on USA made, Proto, Wright, or SK (if you can find in stock) are probably a good fit for you. If you just want good quality tools, Koken and KTC/Nepros from Japan as well as Hazet, Stahlwille, or Facom from Europe are all pretty solid bets and fairly easy to order in the US.
I agree with the Matco statement. They have some exclusive deals with manufactures. And they prices are up there with Snap on or more.
 

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It's your money and you can spend it however you like but if you think Snap-On is better than Stahlwille you're just wrong. Yea, I know they are nice a shinny but that doesn't affect the function of the tool.
It all depends on your perspective. For me, I prefer shiny tools, as they are easier to clean. If two tools are of equal quality, but one is shiny and the other is not then to me the shiny tool IS better. I clean all my tools after I use them as I can’t stand the sight of filthy tools in my box - it bothers my OCD. For some people shiny chrome plating might serve no useful purpose, but it does to me.
 

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It all depends on your perspective. For me, I prefer shiny tools, as they are easier to clean. If two tools are of equal quality, but one is shiny and the other is not then to me the shiny tool IS better. I clean all my tools after I use them as I can’t stand the sight of filthy tools in my box - it bothers my OCD. For some people shiny chrome plating might serve no useful purpose, but it does to me.

IDK does Stahlwille make a scan tool?

I do prefer satin finish in general.
 

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Quality tools are getting harder to find? And this is posted on the internet?

Dunno what the OP's version of quality is, but IMO there's never been as many quality tools available in the US than now. I've said this before, but we still have Snap On, and now we have hundreds of other choices available online- Wiha, Wera, Knipex, Gedore, Stahlwille, Wright, Koken.... And even the lower cost Asian imports like Sunex, VIM, Gearwrench.... sell plenty of good stuff. But if you want to spend tool truck $$$, then find a Snap On dealer.
 

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Majority of my stuff is SO, he shows up 95 % of the time weekly, I don't buy all the time from him as I've been in the business for a while, the kids don't buy much, he did sell me a box so there's that.
Matco is in the area, I have bought from him but he no longer shows, I see his truck every week on my way home.
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Home gamer here, OP I assume you are willing to pay the higher prices for truck brands. Over the years I bought only from Snap on for truck brands lucky to have a local truck. The ratchets, sockets, and wrenches were definitely upgrades and additions from my Craftsman. Did not spend much time researching and may have missed out on other truck brands. As other on GJ have noted the Dual 80 ratchets, sockets, and wrenches are nice tools.
 

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I can only speak from family experience.

My Grandfather was the most discerning tool purchaser I’ve ever encountered.

Throughout the 20’s, 30’s and 40’s, living and working in London, he had the option of buying tools of whatever origin he wanted. (Subject to the obvious difficulties sourcing German tools during the war)!

Many German companies were desperate to export after the First World War, and regularly sent reps to the U.K. - something of a hopeless task faced with anti German sentiment, and a substantial domestic manufacturing capability. They could only hope to sell on price.

My Grandfather (a First World War veteran) related the story of walking into a tool shop in the 1920’s. The proprietor, a friend of his, said “We’ve got a GERMAN here, trying to sell tools”!

My Grandfather thought he was a brave man, possibly without much work, and together they inspected the tools (Pliers). They turned out to be decent, and very reasonably priced. Grandfather bought some (which I still have) and his friends shop continued to stock them till the Second World War.

Most of the British motor trade bought their tools through one of many distributors and trade suppliers, all of who were trying to sell something different. British, German, American - everything was available. Grandfather always went for the best, and that was (for the most part) American made.

Blackhawk socket wrenches and accessories, for example, were his favourites. He was working on heavy trucks, and American 1/2” square drive sockets were much more suited to the task than British hex drive. He also thought they were better finished.

They were also far nicer to use than the German tools. So modern were they, that even now, they get mistaken for 1960’s Britool, when in fact they are a generation older.

As a matter of interest, I have a fair number of wartime era German tools too. My father, a British airline pilot, spent a lot of time on the Channel Islands in the 50’s and 60’s and acquired a lot of used tools. They are decent, but they’re not quite the quality of the American made tools of the same era.
I can believe the tools of the 40's and early 50's had issues in Europe when there was a lack of everything.
 

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Keep in mind you no longer need a driver showing up in person to buy any of the tool truck brands. You can buy all of it on the internet. The driver showing up adds value by saving you time and servicing the warranty items. If you know what you want, you can order it yourself from your home. Out of curiousity I went on the Cornwell site. It is operating. You can buy their products with out a driver.

This is the main reason for a while I thought the trucks would pretty much go away or be diminished to only operate in the most profitable areas. Highly populated areas with a large airport and an affluent population who brings their cars to the dealers and high end shops.

I have a freind that was a Snap On driver for about 10 years. He did ok but he said it was tough to go into a shop with older workers. They usually don't need anything. You want to sell tool boxes to young guys starting out. Then Help them fill it up. After the ecomony crashed in 2008 a lot of car dealers on his route closed and he was forced out of business. He said the SO driver servicing the air port never missed a beat. He has one of the most profitable routes in both a good or bad economy. Those are the routes that will remain.
 

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As quality tools get harder and harder to find, I'm considering getting into truck brands. I searched for but didn't find a thread comparing the different brands.
Really? IMHO this is the best time ever for obtaining quality tools. Even the no name store brands are pretty darn good. Do you mean that USA made tools are harder to get? If so I agree.
 

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Right, I stand corrected. The on line catalog has pricing but no way to buy on line. Apparently, you need to contact a dealer to purchase. Which I assume is also a truck franchise owner. Kind of a crummy website. You would think they would list the dealers by territory and include some kind of contact info so you can email, call or text them directly.
 

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Snapon is definitely a cut above in quality and service. I have sent corporate an email and had an engineer from a plant call me within the hour.

Mac/Proto is also super high quality, and pretty quick to respond to emails and text questions. Mac stuff has a higher level of fit and finish than Proto, but they are both extremely strong and I trust them.

My old Williams tools are definitely on the same level as my older Mac stuff, but the newer Williams and BluePoint stuff just isn't as good as the older stuff.

I have a good mix of truck bands and industrial brands. The nice stuff with the Williams and Proto stuff is you can find pretty good deals by keeping an eye on the industrial supply companies like MSC.

Truck brands are more expensive, but keep an eye on the latest sales catalogs, they have some crazy deals at times, then you call your local truck guy. He might not give you great deals on the standard stuff, but the sales flier prices are set by corporate.
 

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As quality tools get harder and harder to find, I'm considering getting into truck brands. I searched for but didn't find a thread comparing the different brands.

If you are a truck customer, from which trucks do you buy and what do you like most, or least, about their tools. I'm not looking for the quality or courtesy of the operator; that can vary or change, but what about the tools themselves, and warranty/repair/replacement?

While you can’t go wrong with Snap On hand tools, there are plenty of quality brands without the price tag. Favorites of mine include Wright, Williams, and Proto.

Mac is also good. Cornwell is hard to find but good. Matco is always relabeled and increasingly foreign content, I personally shy away from them almost completely.
 

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Armstrong MAXX were 88 teeth towards the end of their production run. I believe it was from late 2014/early 2015 until their closure in roughly 2017?
Yep, at some point in production they switched to 88 tooth, IIRC the pawl was marked 88. Likely this had to do with keeping the production lines for Matco & Armstrong the same to where the different tooth counts were not getting mixed up (IE a Matco 88 getting 60 tooth kit by accident).


FWIW I agree that Matco and Armstrong ratchets were different, cosmetically and the fact that Matco had a larger variety of ratchets than Armstrong (< long locking flex and "normal" length only, in each drive size). That said, There have been many more ratchet configurations from Matco since the Apex/Danaher split, especially in the last few years, then there was before.




Matco is kind of a mixed bag, there is quite a bit of US made stuff, though quite a bit of imported tools as well. Sure everything is re-labled (which is different from Craftsman how?), but a lot is exclusive to them. Some items are better bought from the OE due to cost (Astro, Lisle, ete...), though warranty may be better from Matco, depends on what it is though. I find it's easier to get replacement parts from Matco rather than the OE at times.

The truck brand dealer is going to make or break things regarding who you buy from. You cant go wrong with Snap-on in general, but other truck brands have their gems as well. I deal mainly with the Matco guy here, simply because he is consistant and shows up when He's supposed to, great to deal with. The Snap-on guy is here once a month or so, and wonders why no one buy much.

Being an informed buyer is rather important with any brand these days. A lot depends on what is or isnt available to you locally and if you want to go out of your way to get something that isnt, but is considered "the best" based on reviews and comments. Sources and what is available from who has changed quite a bit in the last several years, especially if it's US made.
 

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Wright makes the best wrenches, can't say anything about their service though, since I've never broken one.
 
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