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Between 485 & 705 SQ/FT Mid-Century Moto Mecca Makeover

Workspaces between 485 and 705 squarefeet.

elvee

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This. I'm trying to get my life more streamlined. Too many projects for sure and the house is the most important one.

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Yeah, we are trying to get one of the two large house projects to happen. We can't find a GC who wants to look at it or wants to be in our price range. Wife is worried about me GC'ing the project (I have builder friends who will give me their subs). With Atlanta traffic, other commitments, etc my street bike hasn't been out of the shop in 10 months, which isn't helping my head space.
That said, I still want to know if you decide to separate from your Duc 900. One of those is what I need to make space for.
 
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kaymccampbell

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Ha, I know where I stand on the minivan thing. It's obviously a touchy subject. But that being said I'd love to see a photo of a chopped roof mini van.

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It was long before digital cameras, and the Polaroids of it just faded away. I do occasionally see it at one of those old sbox roundups at a nearby ice cream stand. I heard the latest owner is taking credit for it. Might be fun to drop in and show a bunch of oglers where I signed it.
 

Jehannum

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That's the rub isn't it?

I was thinking of selling the van or the pickup. But now I'll probably keep the van. It can haul bikes and tow the trailer. I was thinking of selling it and maybe getting an older Sprinter to haul bikes but they couldn't tow the trailer. I was also thinking of streamlining my life even more and just getting rid of the trailer. Cut another project out of my life. I don't know that I'm ready to do that and, like the pickup, it's pretty damaged and worth nothing unless I repair it and because I have sunk so much into it (sunk costs are killing me right now) and because it was dad's I will most likely keep it and the van for now.

The other option, which I quite like, is to find an old Ford F-250 crew cab from the 70's or 80's and just use that for towing and dirt bikes. I have trimmed the gear I use on shoots quite a bit and the wagon could haul my photo gear.

That's the thought right now.

Gregor
A classic Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser equipped with the 455 will tow up to 5000 pounds, FYI.

Not sure it hits all the marks, but it _is_ a classy wagon.
 

hewey

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The combo of the sporty Volvo wagon and the adventure van is great and covers lots of bases!

Our approach is every car needs to fill a different niche: My daily is a Subaru Outback - kinda boring, but has enough clearance and traction to explore firetrails and take camping, but doesnt feel like a truck on interstate roadtrips. We've just ordered a GR86 as a daily for my wife - same philosophy - life is short, get the fun car. And our old car is a '64 mini. Covers a lot of bases with 3 rides.
 

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Noted minivan fanatic here. There is nothing better for moving a lot of people and their **** for long distances. Although wagons are cool, I also love wagons, and it's sad that they were largely displaced by SUVs in this country. I went from wagon to minivan, though, and there's no going back. The minivan is just infinitely more useful.

That being said, Gregor doesn't want one, and I totally get that. To each their own. Also, the Honda minivan I bought new in 2012 is to this day the most unreliable vehicle I've ever owned. Keeping this short to avoid a thread-jack, but engine rebuild and both CV joints shot at 36K, another engine rebuild for a different problem at 60K. Third engine rebuild at 60K because they got the second wrong. Then absolutely terrible (and sarcastic) treatment by American Honda when I proposed what I thought was a pretty reasonable compromise for dealing with what was obviously a lemon. Have talked to another owner of the same generation Odyssey, and she's now having the exact same problems.

Traded the Honda in on a Pacifica Hybrid, and I'm really happy. Sips fuel (when it uses any) and is better in every way. And it's not a Honda. I'm done with them.



Now, getting back to the regularly scheduled program, Gregor, why a wagon if you're keeping the van? If the goal is sporty and fun, wouldn't anything with a back seat for the kids do? Would really open up your options.
 

zeug

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There's two types of people - minivan people and wagon people. I'm a wagon person. A hot wagon is even sexier.
Definitely the latter here. 2018 BMW 330i touring and 1999 Volvo V70 with 40K miles
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Even have a brick in the stable. All four kids drove the family 1991 740- slow and safe. 274K mikes. RWD taught them how to be a driver in the snow. :) My kids freinds all thought it was a collectors car 😂 We’ll see if it survives my last (16yo boy) 030649BD-4511-46F7-9274-470F6540519D.jpeg

But I have to say we also have a 2013 Honda minivan laying around and it was very practical for hauling 4 kids around. At 189k we passed it on to my oldest last year when the first grand kid was born.
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GeddyT

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Definitely the latter here. 2018 BMW 330i touring and 1999 Volvo V70 with 40K miles
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Even have a brick in the stable. All four kids drove the family 1991 740- slow and safe. 274K mikes. RWD taught them how to be a driver in the snow. :) My kids freinds all thought it was a collectors car 😂 We’ll see if it survives my last (16yo boy) 030649BD-4511-46F7-9274-470F6540519D.jpeg

But I have to say we also have a 2013 Honda minivan laying around and it was very practical for hauling 4 kids around. At 189k we passed it on to my oldest last year when the first grand kid was born.
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Do you live in Ashgabat or do you just really like white cars!?
 

zeug

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Do you live in Ashgabat or do you just really like white cars!?
I have a problem!

You can just barely see my white 2007 Tundra with 200k miles in one of the pics. One of my best ever vehicle purchases. 5.7 crew cab 4x4. Tows the toy hauler and the family of 6 easily (Front bench seat). 1 starter, 1 radiator and one power steering pump. It’s my winter weather scoot as well. They’re getting pretty cheap for my year now. Might be a solid consideration for Gregor?

Confession time:
My first thought was Ashgabat must be some fantasy land in a Harry Potter movie. Google set me straight and Wikipedia stole an hour of my time as I read about former communist leaders on spending sprees like college freshman fresh out of moms home with their first credit card. Now they’ve got one of the most expensive cost of living in the world with huge debt. All the while sitting on one of the largest natural gas deposits in the world. In my business, I see bad management kill even the best of companies.

And after a quick survey, the only car in the stable that is non-white (can I say that?) is my sons VW thing project.

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GeddyT

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Confession time:
My first thought was Ashgabat must be some fantasy land in a Harry Potter movie. Google set me straight and Wikipedia stole an hour of my time as I read about former communist leaders on spending sprees like college freshman fresh out of moms home with their first credit card. Now they’ve got one of the most expensive cost of living in the world with huge debt. All the while sitting on one of the largest natural gas deposits in the world. In my business, I see bad management kill even the best of companies.

I knew nothing of Turkmenistan and had no idea Ashgabat existed until I saw it in a couple of Itchy Boots episodes. Not sure if Garage Journal gets timestamps right, but you can skip to 9:55 for the description of the border crossing and ride into the city:


The streets are nearly empty, and people are paid to sweep multi-lane highways with brooms as cars drive by. I guess the current president/dictator has a penchant for white, so all buildings in the capitol city must be white marble and no cars are allowed in the city that aren't white. It's like something out of a fantasy movie when you look at it.
 

GrantT

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Get the wagon, you'll not regret it. 'Sports' wagons are the perfect vehicle for me, although I may be a little biased...

Previous 333bhp S4 Quattro Avant (My dream car but 22 UK mpg and £2 per litre made it unviable)
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Current 260bhp 330d xDrive Touring (40 UK mpg around town, 50+ on a decent run). A simple flash tune will take it to well beyond 300bhp


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Regarding the wagon options, I will toss out the Ford Flex as a vehicle worth considering. Admittedly, not exactly a wagon in the traditional sense, but certainly wagonesque. Not as **** as the European options, but stylish in a subtle sort of way (IMO). I've found mine to be practical, comfortable, and nice to drive. Mine is NA and the power is more than adequate. I suspect the EcoBost (0-60 in 6.2) would be a hoot.

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gearhead1960

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@sakurama Gotta love the long roof. While it might be a little small for your needs, a Mini Clubman might be a choice, although it is now discontinued after this year. Available in a JCW version that pushes 300hp with AWD. Mine is the S version, but with a tune that brings it in line with the JCW. It's a 6 speed, although new ones are only available with slushbox. Here's me at Summit Point during a parade lap....
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sakurama

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FWIW I’m pretty sure Gregor found his dream wagon and is doing a fly-and-drive this weekend.

Yes, let's hope so.

but will a 1983 Chevy Caprice Wagon make it back to Portland under its own power?

You're a very funny guy. Mr. Minivan.

The van is back in the shop - this time with a nearly $4000 estimate - a camera fell off a table and the lens is unrepairable, a client pulled a job that had been agreed to, I've been driving a rental for two weeks and last night another tree fell...

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The kids and I were appreciating the snow (it's rare here in Portland) and had let the cats out when we heard a crack and a sudden whoosh of snow blew past us into the house. We actually got to see this one fall. Doesn't look like it did damage to the cottage. It's ironic because when the last tree fell I asked the tree guys about this split trunk as it looked precarious and they said, "Nah, it looks fine. You could take some weight off of it but I don't see that being a problem..."

So the past few weeks have been a bit overwhelming. At least I've got more firewood.

When things pile on like this I tend to shut down until I can find something that allows me some small win. Looking for the "right" car has been a nice distraction.

I believe I found that car and I am 90% sure I own it. The buying experience so far has been perhaps the worst I've ever had making me feel like I've fallen for some sort of complicated scam. I've done my homework, had the car checked out by an independent mechanic, spoken to the mechanic at the original dealer and researched the selling dealer but I'd say I still feel like a 10% chance I'm flying to Boston and will get to the dealer to find an empty lot.

I've not posted about the experience because I've not wanted to jinx it.

The combo of the sporty Volvo wagon and the adventure van is great and covers lots of bases!

This. ^

As the week progresses I'm closer to sure I have a car and for a change it will be something with less than 100k miles.

Stay tuned and we'll find out together.

Gregor
 

burger

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The kids and I were appreciating the snow (it's rare here in Portland) and had let the cats out when we heard a crack and a sudden whoosh of snow blew past us into the house. We actually got to see this one fall. Doesn't look like it did damage to the cottage. It's ironic because when the last tree fell I asked the tree guys about this split trunk as it looked precarious and they said, "Nah, it looks fine. You could take some weight off of it but I don't see that being a problem..."

Did any of the bongs in the cottage get damaged??
 

GrantT

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Regarding the wagon options, I will toss out the Ford Flex as a vehicle worth considering. Admittedly, not exactly a wagon in the traditional sense, but certainly wagonesque. Not as **** as the European options, but stylish in a subtle sort of way (IMO). I've found mine to be practical, comfortable, and nice to drive. Mine is NA and the power is more than adequate. I suspect the EcoBost (0-60 in 6.2) would be a hoot.
We didn't get these in Europe but they certainly turned my head last time I was in the States. I'd be tempted away from my Euro-wagon by one I think, but only for the unique US-ness of it. Maybe that's the exact opposite of Gregor's situation, a wagon would be unique in it's Euro-ness
 

zeug

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We didn't get these in Europe but they certainly turned my head last time I was in the States. I'd be tempted away from my Euro-wagon by one I think, but only for the unique US-ness of it. Maybe that's the exact opposite of Gregor's situation, a wagon would be unique in it's Euro-ness
Reminds me of Zurich in the early 90s. All the uber rich bankers were being driven around in Lincoln Town Cars just because they were American V8s and no one else could afford to drive one. They definitely stood out!
 

bdking

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In ‘96 I saw an American V8 in Rome, but it was a beat-*** hoopty ‘70s Monte Carlo. I could never understand how it got there or why someone would drive it but it was a mangy whale amongst shiny little tetras.
 

BombShelter

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That's a bummer about the vehicles, I ran into a similar issue this fall replacing an oil filter, instead of using my goto Mann, I used Napa Platinum and it was about 1/8" too long; I didn't notice until oil was spraying everywhere around the engine compartment because the cap wasn't fully seated on the oil reservoir. I can completely understand the weight of one more project added to the winter list.

I'm a big fan of the straight six BMWs, they get around 65,000 miles and people dump them cuz they need preventative maintenance (cooling system), mostly easy for a DIY person but $2000-3000 grand at the dealer. I get them cheap here and they run forever, OEM BMW Parts are reasonable in cost, NAPA has Altrom, some of those parts are OEM, just don't get the oil filters. Some of the larger X5's have impressive towing capacity and even the 3.0 has some get up and go.

Bringatrailer has some 3 series wagons, I was just checking out this one, I drove my 2002 325Xi Wagon until it died, one of the greatest winter/snow cars hands-down ever.
 
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