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What a day yesterday was to show up at an estate sale after an 87 mile drive through a storm, rain, high winds with tornado warnings....
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I was beat after the drive home last night, but all in all a pretty good haul...
You ****!
Had a good day at a yard sale in Clute, TX this morning.
You ****!
Yard sale/estate sale of a woman emptying out her folks home.
You ****!
Picked up an Atlas/Craftsman 3996 12x36 lathe off local classifieds.
Nice find!
 
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Plomb box via a Craigslist find. The guy was a retired mechanic who came from a long line of mechanics. He wanted to get rid of everything. This box happened to be packed.

Any idea how much the box is worth?

Edit: found it in the 1940 catalog 18a listed as No. 9998C-Master Tool Set, but that is not indicative of the year. There were tools in there with the plomb big O font.
 

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The 1940 9998C is not your box.
Earliest catalog example on archive.org with your box's style pulls is No. 11 from 1932, as a No. 9999.
If your box has the Socket Rack, it's a 9999A and sold for $25.10 back then. Current prices may vary.

Edit: Additional info. Boxes 9999 and 9999A continued to be depicted through Cat No. 17B (1939), with the 9998C appearing in 1940.
1932 is near the end of the Round "O" period and therefore it is possible your box could have come complete as a Master Tool Set, although inclusion of Round "O" tools in the box is not indicative of the year since the box was offered for a further seven years.

A profusion of Round "O" tools resident in your box increases the likelihood of it coming from the "O" period.

Either way, as long as you didn't have to pay through the nose for it, You ****!

So, let's see the tools!
 
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Nothing going on here in Des Moines so I'm resorting to my wife digging this out of our daughters flower beds last week. I don't have a small saw so I figure cut a handle and put it to work. Any ideas on the "S" makers mark. No markings on the blades that I can see.

... hmmm now that I look at my handle design, it might be under-engineered. :unsure:

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^ yeah... you need something on there a little classier than "pistol grip"....

.... just sayin' ....
 

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... hmmm now that I look at my handle design, it might be under-engineered. :unsure:
Most vintage 16" panel saws had at least three nuts--usually a medallion and two plain nuts. Your handle remnant looks too long for a panel saw handle and I wouldn't be surprised if it came from a larger saw and is covering a third hole in the blade underneath. I've never seen the "S" branding on a saw--and I believe it lends credence to a cobbled together replacement handle.
 

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Here is a fun story. I went to a sale in Brazoria, TX this morning. Somebody died (RIP) and the family is taking care of his things. Big shop with some tools, but mostly rusty import stuff. He did have a rusty gantry crane and a small lathe. He was using the lathe for woodworking as it was covered with sawdust. I picked up a few things and was literally in my truck with the motor running and I thought, maybe i should take another look at the lathe. I ended up getting the lathe and the giant gantry crane (W4's) for $100! The lathe is an early Craftsman - 2 Jacobs drill chucks, a Dunap 4 jaw, all the threading gears, and some associated HSS tooling. I already have a Monarch, so I guess I'll just clean it up and sell it.



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Most vintage 16" panel saws had at least three nuts--usually a medallion and two plain nuts. Your handle remnant looks too long for a panel saw handle and I wouldn't be surprised if it came from a larger saw and is covering a third hole in the blade underneath. I've never seen the "S" branding on a saw--and I believe it lends credence to a cobbled together replacement handle.
Two holes. Is the notch for the 3rd pin.

It always amazes me that this forum is as interested in a rusty buried saw as it is in a lathe. Nice looking lathe's @BD55 and @cmccuist1 !



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Here is a fun story. I went to a sale in Brazoria, TX this morning. Somebody died (RIP) and the family is taking care of his things. Big shop with some tools, but mostly rusty import stuff. He did have a rusty gantry crane and a small lathe. He was using the lathe for woodworking as it was covered with sawdust. I picked up a few things and was literally in my truck with the motor running and I thought, maybe i should take another look at the lathe. I ended up getting the lathe and the giant gantry crane (W4's) for $100! The lathe is an early Craftsman - 2 Jacobs drill chucks, a Dunap 4 jaw, all the threading gears, and some associated HSS tooling. I already have a Monarch, so I guess I'll just clean it up and sell it.



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No pics of the gantry crane???

...and YOU ****!!!

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Most vintage 16" panel saws had at least three nuts--usually a medallion and two plain nuts. Your handle remnant looks too long for a panel saw handle and I wouldn't be surprised if it came from a larger saw and is covering a third hole in the blade underneath. I've never seen the "S" branding on a saw--and I believe it lends credence to a cobbled together replacement handle.
Here is a 20” saw with just two saw nuts. And another with four.
(Those “S” branded things look like carriage bolt heads, not saw nuts.)06651CD5-812F-4406-BDFF-26021FC774FC.jpeg
Two holes. Is the notch for the 3rd pin.

It always amazes me that this forum is as interested in a rusty buried saw as it is in a lathe. Nice looking lathe's @BD55 and @cmccuist1 !



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If you start taking old saws apart you will find all sorts of nonsense under the handles. The steel for early saws was imported from England - they used every bit of it they could. If you punched a hole in the wrong spot, you just punched another. I don’t think that big bite on yours is for a saw nut - it could indicate where the original hand hole would have exposed the steel (or not).25CDEC8B-B8D6-4BB5-9C07-9A802443308C.jpeg
I've never seen a panel saw with a pistol grip. I think the largest vintage saw I've seen with a pistol grip is a 12"

Couple of examples
I haven’t, either, but the 1904 Disston cat p31 shows table & pruning saws up to 26” sporting pistol grip handles. (The blades are much narrower than panel saws.)
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EDIT - here is something similar at a more modest 18”.49614D6C-9C22-4E06-B339-3773C535A85F.jpeg
 
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Here is a 20” saw with just two saw nuts. And another with four.
(Those “S” branded things look like carriage bolt heads, not saw nuts.)06651CD5-812F-4406-BDFF-26021FC774FC.jpeg

If you start taking old saws apart you will find all sorts of nonsense under the handles. The steel for early saws was imported from England - they used every bit of it they could. If you punched a hole in the wrong spot, you just punched another. I don’t think that big bite on yours is for a saw nut - it could indicate where the original hand hole would have exposed the steel (or not).25CDEC8B-B8D6-4BB5-9C07-9A802443308C.jpeg

I haven’t, either, but the 1904 Disston cat p31 shows table & pruning saws up to 26” sporting pistol grip handles. (The blades are much narrower than panel saws.)
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EDIT - here is something similar at a more modest 18”.49614D6C-9C22-4E06-B339-3773C535A85F.jpeg

That is some serious sleuthing...

It's also interesting how thin the top portion of the handles are on those two in the Disston catalog. And, how relatively thin the metal profile was (length vs height of the sawblade).

Mike
 

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2 hrs 1 way through traffic hell chasing a Craigslist deal in Oakland. Not sure yet what all I got from the good gentleman, but the ole diezelvagen was riding low on the way home.

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On my way home I was able to stop for dinner with a friend and set a plan to upgrade the clutch in his Subaru powered VW Synchro. Somebody had moved and left him a 2nd set of oil changing ramps that we agreed would be better in my warehouse. I noticed his shiny new IR pyrometer, and mentioned I was looking for a new one.
"That's funny, I guess that's they sent me two." He said, and busted out another new in the box. It's an Amazon Cheep, but good enough. I should probably spend the money I saved on a thermal imager. Stuffed my freebies in the back and rolled to the shop.

Only then was I able to investigate my rusty gold. It was immediately evident that "grandpa" was a real bodyman. This Pressteel box shows it's history like the body panels of a Street Stock NASCAR.

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It has the electrical option, but appears to be a retrofit.


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It looks like this one came with the smooth green finish. In the cubby, he created this sweet spring loaded contraption... A 1 gal can lid stomps your sanding discs flat against the side panel. Out of harms way, yet easy to get.

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I think my other boxes have a different wheel attachment, but all 4 are on there good.
Floating drawer tray seen below.

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Bin#1 contains;
4 big wooden Vixen file holders, 2 rounded, 2 flat.
Nicolson rasp with multi position handle.
Plomb Proto dual marked body file, I've been after one of these for a couple years. Maybe these were made for plomb by Heller, they don't seem any different but the names.
32oz mall pein. I think octagon bolster on both ends identify it, but can't remember as what.
A monkey on a stick type body jack, can't make out name.
Small slide hammer.
Some rasp and file ammo.
Gas welding goggle.
Utica hog ring pliers and a small bag of hog rings.
and a couple light duty body spoons.

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Bin number two;
Cc Plomb wrench with a good coat of bad paint.
KD 435 55-62 door handle clip pliers... apparently if you try without this, you break your handle, always sell for $49+ on ebay, but hit me up of you need one.
Japan copy of Indestro? Ratchet...it *****.
Barcalo raised panel one side, recessed on the other...I should go trolling on the 'is rsised panel better?' thread.
Custom Craftsman Vanadium.
Lectrolyte dbe.
Craftsman BE breaker and set of 3 sockets
An interesting chisel, I swear it has to be hollow.
Globemaster stamped wrenches. And a couple other randoms.
I think I've seen gutter guys with these solder hammers before?
And a 3/8 Walden circleSW ratchet. Super rough, but I shot it full of ATF and it kinda recovered.
Also you can see drill holes as screwdriver rack? And probably a small vise.

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Bin the third;
Big mean 9" sand discs.
Kastar plug and valve adjustment tool.
Couple plomb deep wells, and a couple SK.
Binders.
Erick magna holder
Rasp and hacksaw ammo.
A couple shivs made from hacksaw blades.
Hose clamp and unknown clip pliers.
Lil xcelite holding screwdriver
The shortest screw starter I've seen.
Some files and allens.
A folding rule with impressive snap to position.
Random sockets, pretty nice SR wobbly.

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Some neat jacks. On the left, a Walker in grat shape, pat 1923. Extension is folded behind it, probably had a hex driver at some point.

On the other side, an ingenious smaller mechanical jack...flip the handle to the other side, gravity flops the pawl over, and direction is reversed. Can't make out any brand and I don't think that's normal ACME thread. It's in good shape though.

The 3 plomb sockets are here, and a wood tool I'm not sure about. The bottom of the show part looks to have contacted fire before.

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And a well used Plomb top chest. Appears to have been red wrinkle repainted green, then Jewish Racing Gold.
 
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You can see an outrageous custom long ***** hammer.
The trough under the rising tray seems really hard to access, what are you supposed to keep there? PO epoxied some rivets and nails to the bottom of that one real good. Some hinge repair is evident on the latch.

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2 drawers, 2 mini drawers, and a hook on 3/8 socket rack.

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Since it was women's day, I was happy to find them box came with some vintage women's phone numbers!

In the upper left, there is a painted over Plomb tag that would denote box or set number. Try to depaint, or go through pdf catalogs for an hour looking for the part number?
Also penciled over that is a diagram for some kind of hook tool for getting around an obstruction.

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Last but not least, the seller loaded me up a dash of citrus...much of the east bay was orchards before we made it into a strip mall, and the oranges are really delicious, best I had in quite awhile.
 

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In the upper left, there is a painted over Plomb tag that would denote box or set number. Try to depaint, or go through pdf catalogs for an hour looking for the part number?
The top box is a Master Tool Chest 9990. The '40s Plomb catalogs and on into the Proto cats depict it with all pull rings instead of your mix of rings and stamped pulls, but we all know the pitfalls of catalog graphics...
 

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Great deal! Please post it to Presteel box thread - I think somebody was recently trying to reserect it!!!
 

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I plan to.
After some study of jacks, the smaller gray one was supplied as OE with 1925 and down model T, but may only be specific to them if I can find "Ford" script on the handle.
 

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I hit a couple sales today, with very low expectations. Well, I was pleasantly surprised.

The first sale I went to was a clearing out the parents shop, with no pictures in the ad. I wish I had gotten there earlier!
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5 Walden Spintites (even a black handled 1/8"), to Spintite wartime spinners, Duro extension, Power Master(!) socket box with Duro and Walden 1/4" sockets, wood chisel, two Bridgeport offset drivers, a compass, Duro Speeder, full ******* file, and a pair of small nippers. Also a small shelving unit, which I will use with my lathe:
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All of that for $10.

Next stop didn't show any tool pictures either, but said there were some in a three bay shop. What was there was mostly over priced, worn-out junk, but I did find this, and talked them into separating it from the lot priced tool box:
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A nice pre-war Indestro midget set, and since I picked up most of the missing pieces at my first stop, I was pretty happy with it for $5. Just need to find a breaker bar.

Next it was a Restore, were I found these for $2:
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Outdoor spotlight fixture to double my back yard lighting, Walden spinner, and a Williams bit socket.

Also, got my hair cut.
 

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Catching up from the last two days.
Wednesday a tool sale came to my attention during breakfast. Jumped in the car but since it was about a half hour away, I missed the opening. Big metal shop with lots of things stored in it including tools. After a quick scan I ended up in a corner where an attendant was roughly opening draws to a 24 inch wooden box and unceremoniously dumping the contents into a big plastic tub. I saw a few interesting things in the cascade but couldn't get him to stop, so I was forced to dig deep after he carted the box off. I rescued a couple of nice things but can't help but think I missed a few while contending with the 99% that was in the way and I didn't want.

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Starting from the bottom,
24" Lufkin No. C-2516R rule. No Combo Square attachments in sight.
Nice No-Name 24" Boxwood folding rule
Husky H3182 1/2" breaker along with the universal H2963, and the 1" 2864 socket in the upper left.
Trig-O-Matic Automatic Adjusting wrench
Snap-on SSDE48B Electronics screw driver
Plomb WF-82 DBE
Blackhawk 49996 1/2" ratchet date coded 1940
Singer 5" Parallel pliers--Didn't someone post one of these recently? I thought Lugz did but can't find it.
Blue Point HL14 ignition pliers
Skyway 1/4" 15in/lb torque wrench
Lufkin 74A Thread gauge
Goodall-Pratt countersink bit
Sampson Tool & Mfg inside calipers--Never heard of these guys before
Williams 1/4" sliding T
Unbranded screwdriver/hex drive plug and some orphan sockets. $10 all told.
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Today I hit another metal shop building and caught sight of the illusive/reclusive @tin medic!
The ad for the sale showed a **** load of tools, but what you couldn't tell from the photos was the guy was a real **** to tools. There were boxes full of crippled and broken ratchets, pipe wrenches and most everything in between.
Here's what I consider the pick of the litter for $5.

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Starting at the bottom again,
Snap-on socket wrench date coded 1929
Firestone 3/8" ratchet missing selector lever and therefore won't rotate. I thought it was just seized with rust (and it was...) but without the lever mechanism to keep the pawls pushed over, they both engage the teeth and hold it fast.
Armstrong No. 10-901 1/4" ratchet. I think it's missing the detent ball for the selector and it's got a random too-long screw on the left
Catch of the day were the four Starrett items
No. 75 Outside caliper with spring nut
No. 425 Pocket Slide Caliper
No. 77 Divider
1/8" Center Punch

I know I've read that there is a known date when Starrett started using the full name L.S. Starrett Co. on their tools but I cannot find it.
It looks like I may have found my first Starrett tool made before they switched to the full name.
Can anyone point me to the date of the switch?

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Very happy with my small haul (Lugz 2023_10) this morning.

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Top to Bottom, Left to Right...

- Craftsman BE 1/2-drive Sliding Tee with a 13/16" deep "-D-I-" socket on it.
- Very early B&S checknut wrench
- Fairmount 11/16" angle wrench (will replace a newer one in a mixed era pouched set I have that I have been trying to convert to all the same older wrenches)
- Tiny Peugeot Surpans wrench
- 1948 Snap-on 020 offset screwdriver
- Herbrand 1/4" SBE hex opening wrench with a round shank and knurled handle
- Smallest Lectrolite (subject-of-FTC-legal-action for false advertising) combo wrench I have found
- Miller Bowden Clip installer/remover
- A cool X-acto holder with a wooden no-roll handle
 
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Not I said the blind man, but I'd love to see a close up of that unit. From here I would guess Schollhorn made it for them.
As requested--BUT, not before I decided to remove the "punch" and cutter for a little more detailed cleaning. Of course, no sooner had I removed both screws holding the cutter blade than I dropped one on the cluttered floor next to my half-filled trash can with no idea of the mid- or final vectors of its flight. Got out my flashlight and my crazy powerful 1" neodymium magnet and scoured the floor for the little ******--it's less than 1/8" in any dimension. Finding nothing but metal shavings and bits of wire cast off of my wire wheel, I set to the tedious task of going through my trash can. Half an hour later I came up empty handed and was forced to expand my search area. Luckily, the most promising area was among the bottles, tubs and cans under my utility sink and that's where it was hiding.

It's interesting that each major piece has its own serial number. The lower jaw is 120611 with the last digit hidden by the handle.
Finally, and let's be honest here, I don't know what task any feature on these things was actually designed to do but the one that really stumps me is the screw on the upper jaw. It screws into the jaw for no apparent purpose. It doesn't extend into the cutting or grasping area of the pliers--there is no exit to it's tapped hole. I thought it might be to guide sewing thread but the screw's threads extend all the way to the screw head and would shred sewing threads that it contacted.


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Sorry to be the cause of a needle in the haystack search! I would bet my next paycheck that was made for them by Schollhorn. It has all the features. The jaws are a little more squarish than the belt punch, more like their vise pliers, but everything else screams BERNARD, even the oval pad on the knurled grips that usually has the BERNARD marking.
 

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Here is my Bernard pair for comparison.
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We tried to check out a Piedmont estate sale this morning but we arrived a half hour after opening and there were over 25 people still in line and there was water coming out of the sky. Home we went. There are a couple of promising sales tomorrow.
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