2023 Garage Sale Thread
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akasrick
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akasrick
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I'm a Baker fan.
I don't work researching for a patent attorney.
This is a Baker patent
!/2 to A.O. Bills
Looks as if he learned this patent dance at A.O. Bills knee.
Parker alludes to a "Victor" vise in their #6 catalog which may have a bad library date on it.
These small vises look alot like the larger vises, different market, single user vs. Company sales.
All this is poor eyes and a none trained brain.
akasrick
I don't work researching for a patent attorney.
This is a Baker patent
!/2 to A.O. Bills
Looks as if he learned this patent dance at A.O. Bills knee.
Parker alludes to a "Victor" vise in their #6 catalog which may have a bad library date on it.
These small vises look alot like the larger vises, different market, single user vs. Company sales.
All this is poor eyes and a none trained brain.
akasrick
3jakes
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Kinda dry weekend in spite of the storms.
Lots of frowning yardsale home owners as their stuff got soaked.
First one of these I
have found.
1/4 drive SK in "flip top" case.
Lots of frowning yardsale home owners as their stuff got soaked.
First one of these I
have found.
1/4 drive SK in "flip top" case.
11/16"
That’s really cool!Kinda dry weekend in spite of the storms.
Lots of frowning yardsale home owners as their stuff got soaked.
First one of these I
have found.
1/4 drive SK in "flip top" case.
Some nice scores at my first flea market of the season. Most I have spun off already. Keeping the 3/8” drive shallow Snap On socket set for myself though.
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bmwrd0
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So far, it has been a long weekend. I started Thursday with the opening on the Portland International Raceway swap meet, a three day event along it's 5+ mile long track and inner portions. I used my little three wheel bicycle with basket on the back to make this as easy and fun as possible, and watched Smokeshow and others struggle with dollies while I rode circles around them.
I found a very nice Dunlap box with good leather handle and excellent decal, Williams 3/4" socket from the '30s, Huskey ratchet, Blackhawk Loc-on deep socket, cylindrical wooden punch case, Armstrong breaker bar that I need to clean up, Thorsen flex set, New Britain breaker bar/ratchet, beehive screwdriver, and I was gifted a set of cad-plated Bonney refer sockets and two sets of Yankee bits. Unfortunately, my wife called when I was only halfway around the track and said that our old cat was at the vets for an emergency and asked if I could come home. Sadly, the old girl did not make it. I didn't go back as it rained the rest of the weekend.
Friday I hit a few local sales while on the way to the dog park.
At three sales I found the Escher book, two MT bits, a Park bottom bracket tool for Campagnolo, a Plomb war finish, chisel handle, early Hoppes gun grease, and a Metric SK set. That will get flipped and should cover all my expenses for the weekend.
Saturday didn't have much of any interest, but I managed to find these:
Williams bit socket, Buck Bros. chisel, and a Pexto screwdriver. I also stopped by a thrift store and found these:
a partial set of Joseph Conrad books from 1926, still in their dust jackets! An incredible find. Conrad is my favorite author, and while I have copies of many of the titles already, there is no way I was going to pass these up.
edit: I didn't realize the first picture was so bad.
I found a very nice Dunlap box with good leather handle and excellent decal, Williams 3/4" socket from the '30s, Huskey ratchet, Blackhawk Loc-on deep socket, cylindrical wooden punch case, Armstrong breaker bar that I need to clean up, Thorsen flex set, New Britain breaker bar/ratchet, beehive screwdriver, and I was gifted a set of cad-plated Bonney refer sockets and two sets of Yankee bits. Unfortunately, my wife called when I was only halfway around the track and said that our old cat was at the vets for an emergency and asked if I could come home. Sadly, the old girl did not make it. I didn't go back as it rained the rest of the weekend.
Friday I hit a few local sales while on the way to the dog park.
At three sales I found the Escher book, two MT bits, a Park bottom bracket tool for Campagnolo, a Plomb war finish, chisel handle, early Hoppes gun grease, and a Metric SK set. That will get flipped and should cover all my expenses for the weekend.
Saturday didn't have much of any interest, but I managed to find these:
Williams bit socket, Buck Bros. chisel, and a Pexto screwdriver. I also stopped by a thrift store and found these:
a partial set of Joseph Conrad books from 1926, still in their dust jackets! An incredible find. Conrad is my favorite author, and while I have copies of many of the titles already, there is no way I was going to pass these up.
edit: I didn't realize the first picture was so bad.
Jake’s Flea Market (Bally PA) opened this weekened. AM thunderstorms (and some work I brought home) prevented me from visiting yesterday, so I made sure to drop by today.
$42 brought home fractional and metric 1/4-3/8-1/2dr Craftsman socket drawer organizers, couple wrench holders, B&D 3/8” drill, Dunlap vise, US green-handled driver of some sort (maybe to twist wire?), Stanley Handyman P1 screwdriver, three old flat-sided XceLite nutdrivers, unknown needle nose, Utica chain nose, MKlein&Sons chain nose & dikes, unmarked heavy perfekt style screwdriver; Bonney 3 screwdrivers, frozen 3/8dr rat, doe, combo; and a Craftsman pipe wrench.
A pleasantly sunny, though breezy and chilly morning.
I left behind a pair of Manuf Steel Co US Zone pliers. I have (non-Manuf) British Zone somewhere, and probably should have kept these just because, but I was a little dull-witted this morning. Also left behind a lightweight heritage-era CM box lid with a decent badge, which I could have repurposed if I had been thinking.
$42 brought home fractional and metric 1/4-3/8-1/2dr Craftsman socket drawer organizers, couple wrench holders, B&D 3/8” drill, Dunlap vise, US green-handled driver of some sort (maybe to twist wire?), Stanley Handyman P1 screwdriver, three old flat-sided XceLite nutdrivers, unknown needle nose, Utica chain nose, MKlein&Sons chain nose & dikes, unmarked heavy perfekt style screwdriver; Bonney 3 screwdrivers, frozen 3/8dr rat, doe, combo; and a Craftsman pipe wrench.
A pleasantly sunny, though breezy and chilly morning.
I left behind a pair of Manuf Steel Co US Zone pliers. I have (non-Manuf) British Zone somewhere, and probably should have kept these just because, but I was a little dull-witted this morning. Also left behind a lightweight heritage-era CM box lid with a decent badge, which I could have repurposed if I had been thinking.
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Kinda dry weekend in spite of the storms.
Lots of frowning yardsale home owners as their stuff got soaked.
First one of these I
have found.
1/4 drive SK in "flip top" case.
That’s really cool.
WisJim
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BMW picks up the kinds of things that I would bring home and keep, in this instance those Yankee screwdriver bit sets that look like they have the hard to find countersink as part of the set. And 2 of them!
ctuai
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Holy moly, I know more about this vise than I do of my youngest kid
Thanks for all the background @akasrick, @LesserSon, @Outlawmws. I guess it's a keeper, who knows when I need to attach a vise to the dining room table... though I'd imagine my wife would.
Outlawmws
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Smokeshow69
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You were certainly running around us with easeSo far, it has been a long weekend. I started Thursday with the opening on the Portland International Raceway swap meet, a three day event along it's 5+ mile long track and inner portions. I used my little three wheel bicycle with basket on the back to make this as easy and fun as possible, and watched Smokeshow and others struggle with dollies while I rode circles around them.
I found a very nice Dunlap box with good leather handle and excellent decal, Williams 3/4" socket from the '30s, Huskey ratchet, Blackhawk Loc-on deep socket, cylindrical wooden punch case, Armstrong breaker bar that I need to clean up, Thorsen flex set, New Britain breaker bar/ratchet, beehive screwdriver, and I was gifted a set of cad-plated Bonney refer sockets and two sets of Yankee bits. Unfortunately, my wife called when I was only halfway around the track and said that our old cat was at the vets for an emergency and asked if I could come home. Sadly, the old girl did not make it. I didn't go back as it rained the rest of the weekend.
Friday I hit a few local sales while on the way to the dog park.
At three sales I found the Escher book, two MT bits, a Park bottom bracket tool for Campagnolo, a Plomb war finish, chisel handle, early Hoppes gun grease, and a Metric SK set. That will get flipped and should cover all my expenses for the weekend.
Saturday didn't have much of any interest, but I managed to find these:
Williams bit socket, Buck Bros. chisel, and a Pexto screwdriver. I also stopped by a thrift store and found these:
a partial set of Joseph Conrad books from 1926, still in their dust jackets! An incredible find. Conrad is my favorite author, and while I have copies of many of the titles already, there is no way I was going to pass these up.
edit: I didn't realize the first picture was so bad.
And lets not forget it was while drinking coffee Glad you got to enjoy at least some of the swap.I picked those up for BMW from a barn cleanout sale near by. As soon as I found them I knew he would enjoy them as I'm not a stanley collector.
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Smokeshow69
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Speaking of swap meets..... I hit up the big one here in Portland and bought quite a bit. Some is for my personal plomb/proto/ craftsman collection and some of it was just stupid cheap so I bought it to clean and cherry pick the best pieces and then will resell the rest. Literally the best booth we ( myself, BMWRDO, MR.X , RIleysan and Oregon Rock Crusher) hit was pricing tools by the lb. I filled a 5 gallon bucket with proto(la era to modern era) , plomb, snap on, craftsman for $65 and that also included the Hip Roof Crown top box.
Highlights of my finds
-** hard to find GMTK wrench #723 found at the scrapper booth (barcalo buffalo doe wrench)**
- plomb #237 pliers
-various misc sockets/extensions to fill holes in my sets and proto tool boards
-Mobil brand hydraulic brake fluid can for $3
- all the craftsman professional screwdrivers pictured for $5
-craftsman c97 ratchet for $5 (snap on made)
-got my son a ww2 front seam M1 helmet shell for $10. Needs chin straps but is in good shape overall.
-cadmium plated Husky/new britain Fors patent 1/2 drive ratchet
-various Blackhawk bits from BMW including a baldie ratchet and various sockets and a proto torque wrench in yellow box.
I will post pictures in the respective threads once everything is cleaned up. Some of this is pretty clean and some of it makes you feel like you could get tetanus just from looking at it.
Highlights of my finds
-** hard to find GMTK wrench #723 found at the scrapper booth (barcalo buffalo doe wrench)**
- plomb #237 pliers
-various misc sockets/extensions to fill holes in my sets and proto tool boards
-Mobil brand hydraulic brake fluid can for $3
- all the craftsman professional screwdrivers pictured for $5
-craftsman c97 ratchet for $5 (snap on made)
-got my son a ww2 front seam M1 helmet shell for $10. Needs chin straps but is in good shape overall.
-cadmium plated Husky/new britain Fors patent 1/2 drive ratchet
-various Blackhawk bits from BMW including a baldie ratchet and various sockets and a proto torque wrench in yellow box.
I will post pictures in the respective threads once everything is cleaned up. Some of this is pretty clean and some of it makes you feel like you could get tetanus just from looking at it.
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bryanrj
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Looking forward to going to Jake's again.Jake’s Flea Market (Bally PA) opened this weekened. AM thunderstorms (and some work I brought home) prevented me from visiting yesterday, so I made sure to drop by today.
$42 brought home fractional and metric 1/4-3/8-1/2dr Craftsman socket drawer organizers, couple wrench holders, B&D 3/8” drill, Dunlap vise, US green-handled driver of some sort (maybe to twist wire?), Stanley Handyman P1 screwdriver, three old flat-sided XceLite nutdrivers, unknown needle nose, Utica chain nose, MKlein&Sons chain nose & dikes, unmarked heavy perfekt style screwdriver; Bonney 3 screwdrivers, frozen 3/8dr rat, doe, combo; and a Craftsman pipe wrench.
A pleasantly sunny, though breezy and chilly morning.
I left behind a pair of Manuf Steel Co US Zone pliers. I have (non-Manuf) British Zone somewhere, and probably should have kept these just because, but I was a little dull-witted this morning. Also left behind a lightweight heritage-era CM box lid with a decent badge, which I could have repurposed if I had been thinking.
Lots of neat stuff the last two days locally. Sandvik 225 hacksaw, vintage wire strippers. Those 2 and a nice pile of random older tools was $15. The grinder was $20. My old one is hideous and needs a new stone.
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PWRstroke_smoke
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Not much action yet this year, the sales have not had much of what I collect.
But here is my first score of the year. nice old Kent English style hewing axe. Bell shaped with double bevel. This guy is longer than he is wide and weighs over 6 pounds! I cleaned and and re hung on a 24" hickory handle.
But here is my first score of the year. nice old Kent English style hewing axe. Bell shaped with double bevel. This guy is longer than he is wide and weighs over 6 pounds! I cleaned and and re hung on a 24" hickory handle.
Small but interesting finds today: a wartime 1/4"-drive SK box with partial decal. Inside were seven knurled hex-drive sockets with no sizes or manufacturer name (any ideas?), five Plomb WF 1/4"-drive cadmium finish sockets, and a WF-8 Plomb 1/4" ratchet. I also picked up a Williams K-2 roll with five small double open-end wrenches.
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four.cycle
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RE: "Inside were seven knurled hex-drive sockets with no sizes or manufacturer name (any ideas?)"
Fred - 1/4" HEX drive?
Fred - 1/4" HEX drive?
3baygarage
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Wow, great hauls on this page. Some nice ratchets guys.
BMW with the NB, LS the Bonney, and Smoke with the C-97. I also see a hard to find Blackhawk In your trades Smoke. Great Plomb pliers too. I have to say the large swaps are the best!
BMW with the NB, LS the Bonney, and Smoke with the C-97. I also see a hard to find Blackhawk In your trades Smoke. Great Plomb pliers too. I have to say the large swaps are the best!
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Smokeshow69
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Thanks! I couldn't believe I found that C97 for only $5. It was amazing. It's not perfect but it will clean up well. But now I have to find all the sockets and extensions
Both blackhawk ratchets are from BMW so I cant take credit for them. I'm looking forward to getting them cleaned up and serviceable. I had to pay $25 for the plomb pliers but they are so nice I couldn't walk away. They are a great design, with multiple uses.jeffmoss26
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No idea what these are or are used for^^
the black parts and clips in the bags are parts for telephone wiring.
the black parts and clips in the bags are parts for telephone wiring.
wrenchguy
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I'm working on a WWII Air Force APU and noted a lot of safety wiring done with really thin gauge copper wire.Recognize this?
I wonder if it is more for inspection purposes noting that the bolts were properly torqued.
Anyway that thingy would be easypeasy to use replacing the s-wiring I want to do. The holes almost look to big for my wire gauge though.
Hi four.cycle. Six of the hex drive sockets are 3/8” hex drive. The smallest one is a 5/16” hex drive.
Provincial
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^^^^ This.
They are for twisting safety wire in difficult-to-reach places. You feed the two free ends of the wire into the holes from the tip end, then pull taut and spin the tool to put the twist in the wire.
3baygarage
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Unless you want to double your money and save yourself the hassle of looking for all the sockets and extensions...Thanks! I couldn't believe I found that C97 for only $5. It was amazing. It's not perfect but it will clean up well. But now I have to find all the sockets and extensions
JK
I guess the pliers seller knew they had something cool.
bmwrd0
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Fred Knox, both Williams and Walden used a 5/16" hex drive at one point, and maybe Husky. I have some 3/8" hex like that, but I have never figured out who made them.
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Smokeshow69
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So generous of you but I will take my chancesUnless you want to double your money and save yourself the hassle of looking for all the sockets and extensions...
JK
I guess the pliers seller knew they had something cool.
The Wikipedia article calls it a “‘pignose’ safety wire twister.”Pig Snout!
Thank you for the replies! I see the pliers-type fairly frequently (usually damaged), but hadn’t seen this type (that I can recall). I neither race nor fly, so will have to think of a different application if they’re going to see use in my hands. Looks like they retail new around $6ea, so not going to resell.
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akasrick
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akasrick
Not to be a pain,
Just so it, an answer, doesn't get lost in the shuffle.
akasrick
I think I see what you’re getting at: the 1908 patent was assigned after the 1891 patent.
Bills did not invent the table vise; he merely controlled Bonney Vise & Tool from 1890 to maybe 1906. The improvements Baker made to those vises (originally designed by CS Bonney himself, I think) were aimed at lowering cost of production, not increasing functional performace.
The 1908 patent is an entirely different design. PJ Leavens, who witnessed the 1908 patent, is the first manufacturer of this vise, later sold to Stanley Rule.
“Victor” is, I think, just a name. I don’t think there is any licensing connecting the different manufacturers that used it on similar or dissimilar products.
Bills did not invent the table vise; he merely controlled Bonney Vise & Tool from 1890 to maybe 1906. The improvements Baker made to those vises (originally designed by CS Bonney himself, I think) were aimed at lowering cost of production, not increasing functional performace.
The 1908 patent is an entirely different design. PJ Leavens, who witnessed the 1908 patent, is the first manufacturer of this vise, later sold to Stanley Rule.
“Victor” is, I think, just a name. I don’t think there is any licensing connecting the different manufacturers that used it on similar or dissimilar products.
gpw_42
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Emphasis added to Smoke's comment, which set me googlin'. Tetanus shots are good for 10 years (for most of us! https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/dtap-tdap-td/public/index.html), so that's a personal relief, even though I wasn't digging in that booth this weekend
Some strong WW2 pulls this weekend - nice to see so much pop in the same weekend, from sea to shining sea! Thanks to Don, I have a little en route, but am waiting on USPS to get it here from PA.
akasrick
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As a footnote, Bonney somehow had to get the one piece spindle into the vise, which what I see they did the same way, a little on the clunky side, and of course Baker was granted a patent after the fact. Looks like they were wanting to manufacture a heftier vise then what was available from the various makers at that time for the homeowner.I think I see what you’re getting at: the 1908 patent was assigned after the 1891 patent.
Bills did not invent the table vise; he merely controlled Bonney Vise & Tool from 1890 to maybe 1906. The improvements Baker made to those vises (originally designed by CS Bonney himself, I think) were aimed at lowering cost of production, not increasing functional performace.
The 1908 patent is an entirely different design. PJ Leavens, who witnessed the 1908 patent, is the first manufacturer of this vise, later sold to Stanley Rule.
“Victor” is, I think, just a name. I don’t think there is any licensing connecting the different manufacturers that used it on similar or dissimilar products.
Thanks for the reply and your thoughts.
akasrick
RTM
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Here is a stack that 4 of us picked up from the Alameda Point Antiques Faire, a first Sunday of every month event that has been squashed or cancelled by the nasty weather out here the last four months. A group of us have been meeting up 2-3x per year for over 15 years, with the goal to arrive early, and grab the goodies from those who don't know what they have (maybe 1/4 of the vendors). The sale has a formal line up, the closer to the front you are, generally the longer you've been going. Some people kept their old spaces for years, some now seem to be moving a bit. The back of the sale is usually the newbies, the once a year, or once in a lifetime sale types. We try to head there first, but being newbies, they often aren't good at getting set up in a hurry. We pay for early admission (6am), and 7 or so years ago, 90% were setup by then. Now its more like 50-60%. So we go back and repeat the back to see what we missed. Not a bargain hunters delight, but often find harder to acquire tools that one is lusting after.
My stuff is mostly left, so we'll start at the right and talk briefly about the other scores. The big toolbox was an unknown wooden box, my buddy negotiated down to $40, empty, but he had to empty a fed dozen pounds of bits and bobs of a former machinists life, that someone had to use a crowbar to open. The top of the panel is broken, and at least 3 drawers were trashed. But as he finally got all the **** off the bottom drawer, including duct tape, he saw the front, and it had a big Starrett badge. He was even happier. The stone on top is a translucent Arkansas, in near new shape, for $10. The three planes to the left were re assembled from a pile of bits on the table, a few wedges came out in transit, so getting the right front nicker and wedge took a few minutes. The bigger Crescent wrench has two holes in the handle, looks like burned with a torch. The three blacksmith taps, swan neck mortise chisel, and the compass plane were items I had bought for others, and made the swap here.
Here is my haul, spread out a little easier to view.
Starting top left and going CCW:
Davis Inclinometer with an 1890s patent date (120 years old) has a 1" chunk missing out of the back rail, and a corner chipped off, but the price reflected that damage. A Sandusky 99 1/2" groove plane, to be used for drawer and box bottoms, a Shinwa protractor for a good price from a guy with lots of expensive goodies, and a leather heel shave that may get repurposed into a woodworking tool. The compound nipper, brand unknown, look sort of Bernard ish, will take a little while to get the rust off to read who made it. The tapered shaft is a ring sizer, with lots of potential as an alignment tool or circular shape restorer. The US made Vise-Grip 8"?, & 1st Starrett divider came along cheap for $6 for all three. The next few, Starrett outside calipers x2 (left is a thread caliper), and General depth gauge, (1/2" 7/8" open) HD Smith perfect handle wrench in decent shape, & SK box in decent shape w miscellaneous brands of sockets, did not come cheap, but were realistically priced. The indicator snug doesn't match the era of most of the others I own, but came at a reasonable price. Missing the class photo was a 18" long brace driven bell hangers bit, maybe 3/8" diameter, still rolling around in the truck somewhere.
My stuff is mostly left, so we'll start at the right and talk briefly about the other scores. The big toolbox was an unknown wooden box, my buddy negotiated down to $40, empty, but he had to empty a fed dozen pounds of bits and bobs of a former machinists life, that someone had to use a crowbar to open. The top of the panel is broken, and at least 3 drawers were trashed. But as he finally got all the **** off the bottom drawer, including duct tape, he saw the front, and it had a big Starrett badge. He was even happier. The stone on top is a translucent Arkansas, in near new shape, for $10. The three planes to the left were re assembled from a pile of bits on the table, a few wedges came out in transit, so getting the right front nicker and wedge took a few minutes. The bigger Crescent wrench has two holes in the handle, looks like burned with a torch. The three blacksmith taps, swan neck mortise chisel, and the compass plane were items I had bought for others, and made the swap here.
Here is my haul, spread out a little easier to view.
Starting top left and going CCW:
Davis Inclinometer with an 1890s patent date (120 years old) has a 1" chunk missing out of the back rail, and a corner chipped off, but the price reflected that damage. A Sandusky 99 1/2" groove plane, to be used for drawer and box bottoms, a Shinwa protractor for a good price from a guy with lots of expensive goodies, and a leather heel shave that may get repurposed into a woodworking tool. The compound nipper, brand unknown, look sort of Bernard ish, will take a little while to get the rust off to read who made it. The tapered shaft is a ring sizer, with lots of potential as an alignment tool or circular shape restorer. The US made Vise-Grip 8"?, & 1st Starrett divider came along cheap for $6 for all three. The next few, Starrett outside calipers x2 (left is a thread caliper), and General depth gauge, (1/2" 7/8" open) HD Smith perfect handle wrench in decent shape, & SK box in decent shape w miscellaneous brands of sockets, did not come cheap, but were realistically priced. The indicator snug doesn't match the era of most of the others I own, but came at a reasonable price. Missing the class photo was a 18" long brace driven bell hangers bit, maybe 3/8" diameter, still rolling around in the truck somewhere.
gleman
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You ****! That is nifty!Kinda dry weekend in spite of the storms.
Lots of frowning yardsale home owners as their stuff got soaked.
First one of these I
have found.
1/4 drive SK in "flip top" case.
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