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Hello all!

I'm new to Evapo-Rust and bought a gallon to try out.

I'm wondering what's the best method for reuse.

I'm doing two small tubs of tools using about a 1/2 quart. Should I just dump the used stuff back in the jug, put it thru a coffee filter or keep it separate from the original or just toss it?

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definitely re use it, I keep it covered between uses. It will turn into a disgusting blob if you don't

definitely do not pour it back in the original jug. It has reduced efficiency, and this would dilute your good stuff. Better to top up with fresh.

You can reduce the volume used by putting the tool and ER in a heavy duty plastic bag, and then dunk it in a bucket of water. This greatly reduces the volume used. You can also put it in a bag, and just sorta contour it to fit.
 

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I use only as much as I need for the tools I am dunking, and no more than that. I have several different size containers, all with lids to reduce evaporation. When I remove the tools, I pour that used solution through a filter-funnel into a separate empty plastic jug, with a cap, NOT the original jug. And I re-use that used solution from that second jug many, many times. Until it's dark brown. Essentially opaque. Once you use it for a while, you will find out that its potency lasts a surprisingly long time. I don't go back and draw more from the original unused jug until I discard the old stuff.

The Sticky has links to several previous threads on the topic if you want to read more.

CAUTION: It will eat anything that has oxides in it, and that includes black oxide finish and many old paint finishes. It will also pull the stain right out of wood.
 

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I do the same as Private Lugnutz. I also got a step further: sometimes I would initially keep the tools in the darker and well used solution, then take out, reevaluate and use a cleaner solution for the second dip.
The well used old solution periodically goes through the coffee filter. When I poor it out of gatorade bottle in the contained where the tools sit, I sometimes notice sediment which is thick and dirty - I drain it.
Well used solution sometimes works better if I put the small plastic can in which sockets it (with closed lid) into a bigger container that I add hot water to...

... Will need to get more Evaporust soon - my original gallon lasted me couple of years of careful use. I would recommend using a gentle manual wirebrush on the tools to break off top flakes and rust prior to putting tools in the solution...
 

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Yow want to keep it from evaporating, but can rehydrate by adding water.
It keeps working (losing life) on any crumbs,etc. That rell off in the solution, so at the end of session, filter or gravity settle and pour off.
 

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I would recommend using a gentle manual wirebrush on the tools to break off top flakes and rust prior to putting tools in the solution...
Yup. Occasionally, with the worst cases, I will also remove them and scrub them and put them back in.

Also, gleman, you're eventually going to encounter a chalky black residue from time to time. Seems to me to especially happen with high content carbon tools. Just oil and brush off. Easy peasy. A coat of oil, wax, BLO, or a product EDIT: (e.g., Fluid Film) wiped down with a rag puts the sheen right back in the steel whether you're using, displaying, or selling.
 
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Thanks all!

I did read the two threads in the sticky this time. So your efforts weren't wasted!

I'm normally an electrolysis guy but I did want to try the Evapo-Rust.

I'll heed this advice and I'll try the bag trick on the next ones.
 
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A follow-up.

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This wrench cleaned up after a day of soaking and mild wire brushing.

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The rachet mechanism popped free on this one and is silky smooth after two days in the Evapo-Rust.

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There was heavy rust on this one and I was really impressed with the finish.

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The mystery Pliers are still a mystery as I can locate any maker mark. They are a kind of tiny linesmen.

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I'm trying the bag trick on a vise cleanup and looking forward to the results.
 

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There is a lot of good information in here. I will add another warning. It looks like you have pieces touching each other in your photos. Sometimes, if you do that you can end up with a permanent mark on one or both pieces where they are touching. Not always, but it does happen.
 
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More results from my garage sale vise.

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I'm pretty happy. I'm not going to sand out the pitting. I'll just use it as is.

With the bag in the water trick I only used about a cup for the whole job.
 
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What size and make is that USC? Is it reliable?

I've wanted one for a while and can't figure out what size I want.
I have had this unit for 5-6 years. I like it and it works well It is a 30 liter with heat.
This seller ships to USA. The price has come down since I bought my USC from him.
What size and make is that USC? Is it reliable?

I've wanted one for a while and can't figure out what size I want
 

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I have had this unit for 5-6 years. I like it and it works well It is a 30 liter with heat.
This seller ships to USA. The price has come down since I bought my USC from him.
Think about this. A small USC can hold only small things. A big USC can accommodate small and large pieces.
There are a variety of soaps that work for faster and better cleaning. My go-to has been Simple Green. I do not know if I will buy Simple Green again. I am not sure it works better a a higher price.
After trying more than a few soaps, I cannot say that one is better than another. Although I suspect TIDE laundry power soap may have been better.
These USC work really well when filled with heated water. Small parts can be put into a ZipLoc bag with a solvent and then placed in the USC hot water. I would not fill my USC with a flammable solvent. I do not know if this is a greater fire hazard, I am not going to test that here.
I USC everything I buy off Craigslist.
Do not forget that your US dollar is more valuable than a Canadian buck. Google for the exchange.
 

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When I was at Menard's yesterday I noticed Evaporust on the shelf, so I bought my first gallon at $19.99 regular price, eligible for the 11% rebate. I think it's closer to $30 anywhere else nearby.
 
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I try to avoid tools that are too rusty, and I haven't had an electrolysis set up for the last 3 or 4 years due to our long drawn out moving process. I've got a lot of catching up to do.
 

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In my world:

definitely re use it, I keep it covered between uses. It will turn into a disgusting blob if you don't

definitely do not pour it back in the original jug. It has reduced efficiency, and this would dilute your good stuff. Better to top up with fresh.

You can reduce the volume used by putting the tool and ER in a heavy duty plastic bag, and then dunk it in a bucket of water. This greatly reduces the volume used. You can also put it in a bag, and just sorta contour it to fit.
Well, this seems like an appropriate post to respond to. Those who frequent the various rust removal threads know I'm a fan of Evaporust (preaching to the choir here) due to its safety for the project. Here is an example that shows several things I mentioned above.

Below are pix of what I believed was a hand made square, and now I'm even more convinced. The rust hid lots of information. This tool is an example of forgetting a tool in the Evaporust, and still coming home to a tool, at least a month later. Also coming home to a disgusting blob because I forgot to cover it. I acquired this about 8/25, and threw it in the Evaporust, and left on vacation, completely forgetting about it, or about covering it, until today, when I went to throw more stuff in the bath.

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The square was practically glued to the bottom, took a big screwdriver to pry it loose.
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Without panicking, I had taken the whole bin outside, and wiped most of the goo off with a palette knife shown in the same ES picture. Then I laid down some sacrificial paper, and scraped it with a chisel edged putty knife. This pic is the goo and the layer of **** attached to the tool that scraped off.

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Next I submerged it in a small box from a Costco frozen sous vide meal, and poured boiling water over it, added a bit of Dawn, and some cooler water so I could work with it quickly
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Took a maroon Scotchbrite pad, about 1" x 2", and scrubbed everything for a minute or two. Looked pretty good, so I set it into the still warm oven from today's lunch heat up, to dry it thoroughly. Couple of dings above the stock on the thin edge

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Thought I did so well, except I forgot to put a fresh dry paper towel under the square, so the residual water caused a bit of flash rust on the down side.

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Snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. and just offscreen in that picture is a hand stamped G A, probably the maker.

A quick coat of Blue Magic Metal Polish Cream, and looking good again.
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So, lessons learned. A month in Evaporust gives a really nice cleanup, and doesn't trash your project. Leaving the lid off the bucket, in use or not, is a bad idea over a month. My high class bucket (cut out jug from Simple Green) might be trashed. Even using a warm oven for drying isn't fast enough to prevent flash rust if you make stupid mistakes. Leaving the black gunk from Evaporust in the grooves of a measuring device gives a really nice contrast.
 
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