Not many people can afford to pay 40,00 for one socket.Snap On never had a retail store, in every crappy shopping center In America.
Maybe they missed out![]()
Not many people can afford to pay 40,00 for one socket.Snap On never had a retail store, in every crappy shopping center In America.
Maybe they missed out![]()
It was a joke and my HF store is in a crappy shopping center, but you are absolutely right.Not many people can afford to pay 40,00 for one socket.
Hmmm. I think I understand this. My version is that is: it’s fun to repair a car for $300, that the local garage wanted $1100 for. Or, fun to drive a vehicle normal people can’t afford the repairs for (e.g. out of warranty Land Rover product).It's fun to spend $20 to do what people say you need to spend $200 to do.
I think it’s the mistaken logic that tool trucks serve pros and strip mall stores serve amateurs. Therefore, if HF sells using tool trucks, they will be professional quality tools.It was a joke and my HF store is in a crappy shopping center, but you are absolutely right.
Maybe this thread is just reflective of a tool buying demographic shift, that does not necessarily boast of prosperity.
It's not my logic, as I see HF products in truck shops often.I think it’s the mistaken logic that tool trucks serve pros and strip mall stores serve amateurs. Therefore, if HF sells using tool trucks, they will be professional quality tools.
Interesting and respect. I don’t think the distribution and product quality are related. I suspect a lot of pros use consumer quality tools. That doesn’t make them pro grade tools because pros use them.It's not my logic, as I see HF products in truck shops often.
On your second point, if Sears had tools trucks, they would have - by default, be professional quality as well.
A Toptul Tool Truck
All of that green goodness
It's good for me that it's far away and Toptul doesn't want to sell here or embrace 15 & 18 mm wrench sizes 

Define "pro grade"Interesting and respect. I don’t think the distribution and product quality are related. I suspect a lot of pros use consumer quality tools. That doesn’t make them pro grade tools because pros use them.
Hell's Bells Fed I live down the street from you! Why wait?Actually, Snap on had one retail store in the early 1990's. It was in Albuquerque, NM.
I'm waiting for the Toptul truck myself.![]()
Honest question. What makes a pro grade tool? For example, as an electrician with 29 years experience under my belt, I mostly use Klein screwdrivers for two reasons, the supply houses carry them and almost everyone else in the trade uses them. I'd consider them pro grade, but I also have some Chinese screwdrivers from Menards under the the Masterforce name and really can't tell the difference.Interesting and respect. I don’t think the distribution and product quality are related. I suspect a lot of pros use consumer quality tools. That doesn’t make them pro grade tools because pros use them.
I don’t get the fascination with comparing HF, an importer of low quality Asian goods, and Snap On, a major US based tool manufacturer.
Yeah, good question. Didn’t want to go there with this thread.Honest question. What makes a pro grade tool? For example, as an electrician with 29 years experience under my belt, I mostly use Klein screwdrivers for two reasons, the supply houses carry them and almost everyone else in the trade uses them. I'd consider them pro grade, but I also have some Chinese screwdrivers from Menards under the the Masterforce name and really can't tell the difference.
This has to better than the "Ice Cream Truck."


No problem, just gotta be in western Australia.
If there was a bunch of tekton trucks, women everywhere would be making this comparison.This has to better than the "Ice Cream Truck."![]()
So like ... A poor man's jaguar.Probably in the shop often since truck made in PRC.![]()
HF quality is no where good enough to withstand commercial use.A retired Snap On dealer said he figured there would be one some day.
HF quality is no where good enough to withstand commercial use.
For me, pro-grade is a quality tool that lasts up to torture and still kicks and a company that stands behind it over a long history. I consider Klein a "pro-grade" tool for the electrical trade because I still have the first pair of D2000s I ever bought when I entered the trades in 2006, and while the teeth aren't as sharp as my newer pairs, they will still snip steel without a problem. I still have all of my Klein screwdrivers from when I entered the trades (minus a few 5/16" flat blades that became "beater screwdrivers") and all of them still do their job very well and most, with a little cleaning, still look almost new today. I have broke a few Klein tools over the years from everyday use and Klein and the supply houses stood behind the Klein warranty and replaced them without question.Honest question. What makes a pro grade tool? For example, as an electrician with 29 years experience under my belt, I mostly use Klein screwdrivers for two reasons, the supply houses carry them and almost everyone else in the trade uses them. I'd consider them pro grade, but I also have some Chinese screwdrivers from Menards under the the Masterforce name and really can't tell the difference.
Any girl who will consider Family Dollar or Harbor Freight a date is a keeper.HF doesn't need a truck,as long as they stay in the same strip mall with Family Dollar.My young neighbor says thats where he takes his wife on date night.UGG!
I'd prefer her to go to Dollar General!!Any girl who will consider Family Dollar or Harbor Freight a date is a keeper.
Elitist.I'd prefer her to go to Dollar General!!
HF quality is no where good enough to withstand commercial use.
Tool trucks are scams. It got going in acient times when people had limited access to data and truth. Nowadays, anyone with a brain willing to think can realize that tool tricks are obstacles to their life’s goal.
You're the expert.Tool trucks are scams. It got going in acient times when people had limited access to data and truth. Nowadays, anyone with a brain willing to think can realize that tool tricks are obstacles to their life’s goal.
Consider the source.Damn, I'll have to remember to buy my Ford escape remote cooling system adapter from Icon.
Couple mechanics at my Chevy dealership have switched to using Pittsburgh pro sockets. If they lose the 10mm, $10 for the whole set. One of them told me, I just go warranty stuff on Saturday or Sunday. I always bought snap on until I got tired of paying $25 a socket every time I lose one.I don’t know how you substantiate this claim.
There’s tons of pro mechanics using Icon and Pittsburgh in a shop with no problem.
And there’s tons of pro mechanics warrantying Snap On et al or having their truck guy repair it.
I switched to generic socks for the same reason.Couple mechanics at my Chevy dealership have switched to using Pittsburgh pro sockets. If they lose the 10mm, $10 for the whole set. One of them told me, I just go warranty stuff on Saturday or Sunday. I always bought snap on until I got tired of paying $25 a socket every time I lose one.
