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Mr. Wonderful

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Hope a fellow GJ member scores this one in Portland. (pretty scarce). What's the purpose of the horizontal peg? Is it used to drive out the vertical peg if it get's stuck? I doubt it'll be cheap and I don't really see the usefullness of a swivel jaw vise.


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I think that's a piece that hooks a small chain to the swivel pin to keep it from getting lost. Some of the old catalog pictures showed it that way if I remember right.
 

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50 years.---Wow, thank you for your service Nopd.---Your hobby shows that one can always learn something new.---And one sure can get hooked on those vises.

By the way, I'm not for defunding the PDs, I'm for mass producing them.
 

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Hope a fellow GJ member scores this one in Portland. (pretty scarce). What's the purpose of the horizontal peg? Is it used to drive out the vertical peg if it get's stuck? I doubt it'll be cheap and I don't really see the usefullness of a swivel jaw vise.


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No, it won't be cheap.---I got mine before they caught on.---Now they are way out of my range.---I kind of like the swivel jaw aspect for holding wedge, and odd shaped objects, because you get more bite per square inch than a conventional vise.
 

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Hope a fellow GJ member scores this one in Portland. (pretty scarce). What's the purpose of the horizontal peg? Is it used to drive out the vertical peg if it get's stuck? I doubt it'll be cheap and I don't really see the usefullness of a swivel jaw vise.


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According to the guy running the sale it went for 125 One of the first things sold. He grabbed it and stumbled out to the checkout stand struggling under the weight.

I'm shuffling through now, will report back in the garage sale thread
 

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According to the guy running the sale it went for 125 One of the first things sold. He grabbed it and stumbled out to the checkout stand struggling under the weight.

I'm shuffling through now, will report back in the garage sale thread
That was cheap for a prof. estate sale. The buyer was probably in line by 6:00am or earlier and knew exactly what he wanted. Wonder if it was a GJ member. If so I give him a you ****.
 
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That Wilton SJ would have earned a you **** at twice that price. The ugly paint is just superficial.
Maybe it will surface on these pages in a while.
 

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Today’s score:
A free bullet.
A guy I know inherited this 4 inch bullet from his deceased grandfather. It was laying around in the weeds in the old guy’s back yard. The grandson lives in a high rise condo and has no sentimental attachment to it so he gave it to me. The handle is frozen in place with heavy rust so it doesn’t slide through the nose. But the 3 screws securing the horseshoe came out and the main screw cranked out without too much effort. Some penetrating oil helped on the slide withdrawal. Jaw inserts are in great shape except for one tiny corner chip. Dated Jan. 1980

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Has anybody ever seen a swivel base like this? I know it’s not factory but it’s so well made. Some machinist did a great job. It’s made from half inch steel plate. With the rust situation, it’s not gonna be unbolted anytime soon, Evaporust and penetrating oil will probably prevail in the long run.

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Chrisuk

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Hello all, would anyone at GJ be able to identify this vise I recently acquired ?
I’m over in the U.K. and this type seems quite unusual here, I think the description would be oval slide type ?
No makers marks / stampings or casting marks, it weighs 60kg according to my basic scales.
It has the remains of green paint in places under the oil and grease.
Handle replaced at some time too.
10 - 1/4 inch opening and 6 - 3/4 inch wide jaws.
It is pictured next to my Record 36 for scale.
Any help on identifying it would be much appreciated,
Cheers Chris in U.K.
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Hello all, would anyone at GJ be able to identify this vise I recently acquired ?
I’m over in the U.K. and this type seems quite unusual here, I think the description would be oval slide type ?
No makers marks / stampings or casting marks, it weighs 60kg according to my basic scales.
It has the remains of green paint in places under the oil and grease.
Handle replaced at some time too.
10 - 1/4 inch opening and 6 - 3/4 inch wide jaws.
It is pictured next to my Record 36 for scale.
Any help on identifying it would be much appreciated,
Cheers Chris in U.K.
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That's a nice vise design. I think Record made some in that style but those'd have their letters on. Almost asked if it's steel but I can see how it cracked under the jaw support so it probably is not. Might be French? I think many French vises had less branding (remember some that only said "tout acier", which means all-steel, but no other branding...).
 

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I took some updated photos of my Wilton baby bullet vise collection and thought I’d share.
 

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kenc184

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I took some updated photos of my Wilton baby bullet vise collection and thought I’d share.


Smitty,

That is CRAZY! You have been busy this last couple of years building the worlds best baby bullet collection. Guess I'll have to make do with the one I have since you've bought the rest!
 

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yeah I’ve been working really hard the last couple of years to find these at reasonable prices and that’s no easy task these days.
Patrick
Thanks, I really enjoy collecting these.
 

lowdowndodge

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Hello all, would anyone at GJ be able to identify this vise I recently acquired ?
I’m over in the U.K. and this type seems quite unusual here, I think the description would be oval slide type ?
No makers marks / stampings or casting marks, it weighs 60kg according to my basic scales.
It has the remains of green paint in places under the oil and grease.
Handle replaced at some time too.
10 - 1/4 inch opening and 6 - 3/4 inch wide jaws.
It is pictured next to my Record 36 for scale.
Any help on identifying it would be much appreciated,
Cheers Chris in U.K.
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Jet engine starter needed??? 😎
 

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Dang Smitty! and they are so much easier to store and display

Yeah, unless I get lucky again I'm at one also. I'm still looking for a toddler. That would give me a 2, 2-1/2, and a 3. (Done at that point)
 
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Outlaw
The toddlers seem a bit harder to find these days, I think they made way more babies.
Ranger
I was running out of space and up seemed like the logical direction. I searched Home Depot looking fittings to raise the shelves higher and 1” gas pipe was the perfect solution.
Jayman
Thanks, I put a lot of time and effort into finding these.
 

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I picked up a couple new vises this weekend. Samson 5175 marked 5/1939, a Dawn 3-1/2SP, and a rather odd small clamp on. I’ve seen these plenty of times but never one with removable jaw inserts. No markings anywhere to be found.
it looks like a Stanley Sweetheart vise, but I have never seen one with interchangeable jaws.
 

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I picked up a couple new vises this weekend. Samson 5175 marked 5/1939, a Dawn 3-1/2SP, and a rather odd small clamp on. I’ve seen these plenty of times but never one with removable jaw inserts. No markings anywhere to be found.
$10 for the Dawn?!?
 

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I picked up a couple new vises this weekend. Samson 5175 marked 5/1939, a Dawn 3-1/2SP, and a rather odd small clamp on. I’ve seen these plenty of times but never one with removable jaw inserts. No markings anywhere to be found.
Nice find. It’s definitely a Stanley Sweetheart, I should have a stamp on the back. I believe yours was made in the very early 40’s before the war broke out. You rarely see the replaceable jaw models and I was lucky enough to find two of them. Once we entered WWII Stanley shifted production and made machine gun belts for the war effort. The Stanley Sweetheart vises never went back into production after the war.
 

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Nice find. It’s definitely a Stanley Sweetheart, I should have a stamp on the back. I believe yours was made in the very early 40’s before the war broke out. You rarely see the replaceable jaw models and I was lucky enough to find two of them. Once we entered WWII Stanley shifted production and made machine gun belts for the war effort. The Stanley Sweetheart vises never went back into production after the war.

Top of the slide at the tail

Outlaw has is right.
Don’t use abrasives to clean the top of the slide or you might miss the stamping or damage the machining.
Yes! It is marked with the sweetheart. No.61
 

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Picked this up last week, just for the cool factor. I've seen a few of these Shop Kings over the years, but never saw one this big. It's pretty beefy at 40 lb. Anybody have any info on the sizes they made these in. I know a lot of them had a hardy hole and cutter.

Tom
 

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Picked this up last week, just for the cool factor. I've seen a few of these Shop Kings over the years, but never saw one this big. It's pretty beefy at 40 lb. Anybody have any info on the sizes they made these in.
Try here

 

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Yes! It is marked with the sweetheart. No.61
I've never seen a sweetheart era catalogue with the removable Jaws. Earliest I've read is 1949 a completely different style of clamp on though, everything earlier from what is available to read is "fitted". If you find anything I'd like to see it good buddy :)

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Try here


Thank you. That covers them pretty well.
 
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