BEAVO
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just what it says guys how exactly do i hook up a 220v receptacle for a future welder
220v receptacle
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You put the red wire on one hot terminal, the black wire on the other hot terminal, white on the the neutral, and green on the ground. Do it exactly like that and you'll be fine.
Seriously you need to give a bit more information in your question. What does your welder require? How many amps will it draw? If this is a furture dream then I would suggest that you put in the conduit, a box and a pull string so that when you have the welder in hand that you can determine the correct wires to pull in. On the other hand visit the welder store and review whatyou dream of getting then check the specs on it to prepare for it with the proper wire size.
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Seriously you need to give a bit more information in your question. What does your welder require? How many amps will it draw? If this is a furture dream then I would suggest that you put in the conduit, a box and a pull string so that when you have the welder in hand that you can determine the correct wires to pull in. On the other hand visit the welder store and review whatyou dream of getting then check the specs on it to prepare for it with the proper wire size.
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MrMark
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It's 240 and it's run not ran.
A welder does not need a neutral. Just two 120 V phase legs, thus the 240, not 220. Get a 50 amp plug and 8 gauge wire and hook up the two hot wires to the plug. Very simple to do.
A welder does not need a neutral. Just two 120 V phase legs, thus the 240, not 220. Get a 50 amp plug and 8 gauge wire and hook up the two hot wires to the plug. Very simple to do.
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babzog
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My welder plug just has two hots and a ground. I used a run of 6-2 wire (2 hots and a ground; it's heater wire, cheaper than the commonly available 6-3 wire) and a 60A breaker to the receptacle.
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Professur
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I cheated on mine. I went with 4 conductor and used a stove receptacle. I then made my 50' extension using generator wire, with 4 conductors. At the end, I have my standard welder socket (6-50R I think), and a pair of 20A 110V receptacles. It's a lot of extra wire, but when you need to put the compressor out in the driveway by the car to shorten up the hoses and make the most of the air you've got, the lack of voltage drop is well worth the price.
Professur
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Against what?
Gooch
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Over Current? if it is just tapped on to the 50 Amp circuit it could be subjected to higher current than it's rated.
overcurrent and short circuit. Protected by a 50 amp breaker and behind a long run of cable #12 will burn up before the breaker trips.
Professur
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Um ... It's on a 30A circuit, 4 strands of number 10. The 20A receptacles are right on the very end, in parallel with the welder receptacle. It's no different than when you use an 16ga extension cord on a 15A 10 circuit indoors. Naturally it's never ever used for 110v and 220v at the same time and it's always used outdoors.
I may be wrong on the welder receptacle. It's the correct one for the welder, a Linc SP-170T. And I didn't produce this setup alone. It was implemented by a professional electrician.
I may be wrong on the welder receptacle. It's the correct one for the welder, a Linc SP-170T. And I didn't produce this setup alone. It was implemented by a professional electrician.
I assumed 50 amps based on you saying 'stove receptacle' which would be a NEMA 14-50. If youre using a 30 amp receptacle that would be a 14-30 which is a dryer receptacle.
Cant protect a 20 amp receptacle with a 30 amp breaker. Is it going to be a problem? Probably not if you are careful to not overload the 20 amp receptacles. Is it right? No.
I question any 'professional electrician' who would rig up such a contraption.
Professur
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I proposed it, he agreed it was safe and built it for me. When I ask an accredited pro his opinion, I don't argue with them when they give it. The only wiring that's not 30A is inside the safe housing at the end of the extension. As for the stove receptacle, it could be a dryer one.. I honestly couldn't tell the difference without a manual. I know exactly enough about electrics to know to leave the final hookups and inspections to pros, and to ask opinions before jumping in with both feet. Fortunately there's no lack of pros at either the church or the KoC hall who are more than happy to volunteer their expertise.
first i would like to thank everyone for responding to my thread
oh and sorry i don't have perfect grammar i didn't know this was grammar school geesh guys why you guy have to be that way just ask a simple question errrrrrrrrrrrrr!! i like the site but you guys need to chill
oh I'm sorry I'm not a professional electrician buddy that's why i asked thanks for your 2 cents
oh and sorry i don't have perfect grammar i didn't know this was grammar school geesh guys why you guy have to be that way just ask a simple question errrrrrrrrrrrrr!! i like the site but you guys need to chill
e-tek
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tfi racing
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That's the beauty of internet forums.If you ask a question,chances are you will get answers.For those who may not like to read answers they may not like,I suggest picking up a book instead.
Improved700
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That's the beauty of internet forums.If you ask a question,chances are you will get answers.For those who may not like to read answers they may not like,I suggest picking up a book instead.
Well said.
sberry
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20A recepts get protected by 30's all the time, single circuits to dedicated equipment. (usually stuff with heavy cords, 14 or better) I don't worry so much about overloading the recept but the equipment you plug in to this circuit is likely to be designed to be use on circuits to 20A, even a 16 extension cord shouldn't be used at 30 ocpd.
show me where thats ok
sberry
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I don't recall exactly where its at, exception for small welders, comps, etc. But its limited to specific dedicated purpose (not general use circuits where its available to casual use) Motor circuits, etc. Many allow for 14 wire 30A breaker. Also limited to a single outlet.
Totally. Some guys think a question is an invite to go on about ever-y-thing....
And every electrical thread winds up in a code translation ******* match.
I think Spike TV should start a new reality series, "Electrical Code Challenge" with a bunch of electricians and jolt the piss out of everyone with a wrong answer. Or put 'em in a cage and let 'em duke it out.
And every electrical thread winds up in a code translation ******* match.
I think Spike TV should start a new reality series, "Electrical Code Challenge" with a bunch of electricians and jolt the piss out of everyone with a wrong answer. Or put 'em in a cage and let 'em duke it out.
this happens because of some of the scary and downright dangerous stuff we see here
That's the beauty of internet forums.If you ask a question,chances are you will get answers.For those who may not like to read answers they may not like,I suggest picking up a book instead.
pst.. i dont like books
if i did i wouldnt be on here. just dont think people needed to respond that way because obviously i didnt know or i wouldnt have asked i would expect that if i came on here acting like i knew it all and was always right but.......... i didnt. but thanks to all that did respond and i didnt mean to start a pissin match