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Best gutter guard design?

ching0n

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I've got a large maple that sheds large leaves in the fall, twigs all year, and tiny flowers and seeds in the spring. This unfortunately hinders one design over another. Which gutter guard design has kept you from having to do anything besides leaf blow/vacuum the surfaces if they pile on? I'd want something as low maintenance as possible so am ruling out the foam types for now.

Considering this but worry about clogging:

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I had a house with seamless gutters with the guards built in. The house was under a dozen GA pine trees. The entire front yard was pine straw. The gutters never needed any cleaning.

The 2 downsides were cost and repairs. When a tree limb came down and dented the gutter cover, the only way to repair it would be replace a whole section. And cost-wise, when I priced having those installed at my new place, having the covers in them more than doubled the price over standard seamless gutters.
 

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I am of the opinion that they are all optimized for a certain use case - either heavy or light rain. Like many things, they are a compromise. After researching it a few years ago, decided to leave my gutters open and clean them out yearly on the house and twice a year on my garage (because it's tucked back into the woods a bit more and they fill up faster).
 
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ching0n

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Never added gutter guard use a leaf blower done.
rains too often. Soggy mess is hard to blow off. I suppose getting an attachment and just doing it every other yard work day would be sufficient.

I am of the opinion that they are all optimized for a certain use case - either heavy or light rain. Like many things, they are a compromise. After researching it a few years ago, decided to leave my gutters open and clean them out yearly on the house and twice a year on my garage (because it's tucked back into the woods a bit more and they fill up faster).
it's like 6x's a year in my case. The garage doesn't have them atm since I put on a metal roof; it does a great job of keeping debris off but nothing about soaking the foundation. I'm thinking even if I get seeds in the gutters, the first heavy rain should push them out. That is if they don't sprout.
 

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Gutter guards are mediocre at best. I put these foam filters in my gutters and they work awesome.
They flow even in monsoon type weather, and never clog. As cheap as they are, I figured it was worth trying and replacing when they wore out/crumbled away. That was about 10 years ago and they're still working just fine.
Foam gutter things
 

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I've got a large maple that sheds large leaves in the fall, twigs all year, and tiny flowers and seeds in the spring. This unfortunately hinders one design over another. Which gutter guard design has kept you from having to do anything besides leaf blow/vacuum the surfaces if they pile on? I'd want something as low maintenance as possible so am ruling out the foam types for now.

Considering this but worry about clogging:

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I've used the "Stainless Steel, micro mesh gutter guards by Raptor" on my last two homes, and have added them to the front of the home we are remodeling (backs will be done once the new framing is complete and gutters reinstalled). They work great, and have not clogged over the years....Sure beats climbing the ladder every 4-5 months to hand clean the old setup. Figure $125/per 50 feet (Amazon). Watch the installation videos, and follow their directions, 130 feet went up in under 2 hours, three corners and two ends needing to be cut, along with 3 specialty cuts for sizing during their runs. Small, cordless driver, tape measure, and tin snips...Oh, and a pair of work gloves, as the ends are sharp.

Bill S.
 
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JMHO, but gutter guards are the most overpriced **** ever. None I've seen will cope with pine needles.

A friend got suckered into spending $5000 to have louvered "guaranteed never to clog" gutter guards installed. They never clog because they pass all the water over the gutter like it's not even there.

jack vines
 

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I’ve had three types so far.

The first on the house was the metal screen with the hinged clips. The screen was too course, let too much little **** through, but the hinges were nice to allow them to be opened for cleaning. I’d have to clean the gutters ant least once an year. Also, these were galvanized steel, so rust kicks in after a few years.

The second on the house are the plastic ones with the screen. These work better for keeping out a lot of the small stuff. Also, they’re flat, so less stuff piles up on them. The plastic screen isn’t very well attached, though. They’re kinda cheaply made. The plastic is starting to break down from UV, so I’m thinking about replacing them. Gutter cleaning now is once every couple of years.

On the garage, I went with the foam inserts. Weirdly, this has been the lowest maintenance. I’ve never had to go back and clean the gutters on the garage.

Complicating details:

The house has a hip roof, extended to an L shape, forming two valleys. The valleys funnel airborn **** in to the gutter corners, and those spots require more maintenance and cleaning.

Whoever hung the gutters was an idiot. Not enough slope.

I used to have two ash trees overhanging the front of the house. Ash trees drop tons of seeds that are perfectly shaped to go through the first design gutter screens I had. The ash trees are gone.

My neighbor has a maple that drops spinners. The screens I have now deal with those pretty well.

I have an overhanging locust. It’s seed pods will pile up on anything, gutters screened or not.

Nothing overhangs the garage. It gets seed pods from the locust, but those mostly just blow off.
 

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The house we are living in now had bad gutters on it so we had them replaced with seamless gutters & had leaf guard installed at the same time. The r/s of the property slopes down from about the mid-point of the house to the end then levels off making the gutters almost impossible for me to clean on the r/s of the house especially since I do not like to climb ladders. The gutter guards solved that problem.

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I've used the "Stainless Steel, micro mesh gutter guards by Raptor" on my last two homes, and have added them to the front of the home we are remodeling (backs will be done once the new framing is complete and gutters reinstalled). They work great, and have not clogged over the years....Sure beats climbing the ladder every 4-5 months to hand clean the old setup. Figure $125/per 50 feet (Amazon). Watch the installation videos, and follow their directions, 130 feet went up in under 2 hours, three corners and two ends needing to be cut, along with 3 specialty cuts for sizing during their runs. Small, cordless driver, tape measure, and tin snips...Oh, and a pair of work gloves, as the ends are sharp.

Bill S.

Those look good. How do they go under / against the shingles and roof edge?
 

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The house I bought has an open cell foam in the gutters and it seems to do a decent job. I definitely have to do a good cleanup yearly to clean everything out but so far I've been happy with them.

Is there some maintenance I'm supposed to be doing with these foam ones other then blowing them off once and a while?
 
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ching0n

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Gutter guards are mediocre at best. I put these foam filters in my gutters and they work awesome.
They flow even in monsoon type weather, and never clog. As cheap as they are, I figured it was worth trying and replacing when they wore out/crumbled away. That was about 10 years ago and they're still working just fine.
Foam gutter things
The house I bought has an open cell foam in the gutters and it seems to do a decent job. I definitely have to do a good cleanup yearly to clean everything out but so far I've been happy with them.

Is there some maintenance I'm supposed to be doing with these foam ones other then blowing them off once and a while?
I’ve had three types so far.

The first on the house was the metal screen with the hinged clips. The screen was too course, let too much little **** through, but the hinges were nice to allow them to be opened for cleaning. I’d have to clean the gutters ant least once an year. Also, these were galvanized steel, so rust kicks in after a few years.

The second on the house are the plastic ones with the screen. These work better for keeping out a lot of the small stuff. Also, they’re flat, so less stuff piles up on them. The plastic screen isn’t very well attached, though. They’re kinda cheaply made. The plastic is starting to break down from UV, so I’m thinking about replacing them. Gutter cleaning now is once every couple of years.

On the garage, I went with the foam inserts. Weirdly, this has been the lowest maintenance. I’ve never had to go back and clean the gutters on the garage.

Complicating details:

The house has a hip roof, extended to an L shape, forming two valleys. The valleys funnel airborn **** in to the gutter corners, and those spots require more maintenance and cleaning.

Whoever hung the gutters was an idiot. Not enough slope.

I used to have two ash trees overhanging the front of the house. Ash trees drop tons of seeds that are perfectly shaped to go through the first design gutter screens I had. The ash trees are gone.

My neighbor has a maple that drops spinners. The screens I have now deal with those pretty well.

I have an overhanging locust. It’s seed pods will pile up on anything, gutters screened or not.

Nothing overhangs the garage. It gets seed pods from the locust, but those mostly just blow off.
that's good to know. I was ruling the foam out because I'd figure they'd last a couple of months before they rotted away from moisture or the sun.
 
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ching0n

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I've used the "Stainless Steel, micro mesh gutter guards by Raptor" on my last two homes, and have added them to the front of the home we are remodeling (backs will be done once the new framing is complete and gutters reinstalled). They work great, and have not clogged over the years....Sure beats climbing the ladder every 4-5 months to hand clean the old setup. Figure $125/per 50 feet (Amazon). Watch the installation videos, and follow their directions, 130 feet went up in under 2 hours, three corners and two ends needing to be cut, along with 3 specialty cuts for sizing during their runs. Small, cordless driver, tape measure, and tin snips...Oh, and a pair of work gloves, as the ends are sharp.

Bill S.
those were the ones I was looking at but sure are spendy. There's this design that's a third of the price but it's powder coated steel instead of stainless:

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ching0n

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JMHO, but gutter guards are the most overpriced **** ever. None I've seen will cope with pine needles.

A friend got suckered into spending $5000 to have louvered "guaranteed never to clog" gutter guards installed. They never clog because they pass all the water over the gutter like it's not even there.

jack vines
oh believe me, I wouldn't pay over 300$ in labor to have it done, I'm DIY'ing it; it's a very simple ranch.
 

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I love the advertising . . . cartoons showing wispy light, dry leaves the size of dinner plates, floating over the gutters. Not here by any means.

I have 2 dozen Austrian pines as a wind break, so 10 to the 5th needles. Two honey locusts for summer shade on the west end of the house, so 10 to the 5th tiny leaflets and the stems for the leaflets. A large sycamore, so seed balls that break apart with fluffy little pieces.
There isn't a leaf guard made that wouldn't have to be cleaned more often than the unguarded gutters. I walk the edge of the roof a couple of times in the fall with the leaf blower, sending this **** downwind and away.
 

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I'm in agreement with not having any guards on or inside the gutter. Whatever type it is, it will at some point need to be removed to be cleaned or repaired. My experience with removing & reinstalling things as they age is that stuff breaks. I'd rather set up the extension ladder, fill a bucket or drop everything to the ground & move on down the gutter. I'm not saying that my opinion is the best, only that it's easier in the long run for me to scoop out a gutter a few times a year than to remove something carefully & hope it doesn't break. Especially when I'm almost 30 feet up. I live in a heavily wooded area & ALWAYS need to clean my gutters. :confused:
 
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Those look good. How do they go under / against the shingles and roof edge?
The slip under the leading edge shingle, then you place a screw in the top into the top of the outer edge of the gutter. I advise installing on a warm day, as the shingles are easier to raise up and slip them under.
 

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those were the ones I was looking at but sure are spendy. There's this design that's a third of the price but it's powder coated steel instead of stainless:

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Can't say I've ever even seen them, for me at least, I wanted to install them, then forget about them. I have maple trees, several variations of pine, water oaks, and regular oak trees in and around our property....The pine needles are the killer for the type you attached, as they can drop and actually fall in between the larger mesh......Ours are a finer mesh, and do not allow this, or granuals from the shingles themselves from getting through.....Three years on our current house, and the inside of the gutter itself is still clean as a whistle.....I'll assume anything small enough to get through, gets washed out when it rains.

Bill S.
 

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Gutter guards are mediocre at best. I put these foam filters in my gutters and they work awesome.
They flow even in monsoon type weather, and never clog. As cheap as they are, I figured it was worth trying and replacing when they wore out/crumbled away. That was about 10 years ago and they're still working just fine.
Foam gutter things
That looks like a really good idea. I have to assume that it would vanish after a while and that's okay.

I put on the vinyl stuff they carry at lowes and it was very effective. After about 12 years, part of it came off due to the sun exposure, and it's no longer "good enough" for the purpose. For what I paid (a dollar a foot), the 12 years was pretty good, but it was just 12 years.

The main hazard I had was maple seeds, but I have removed all the maples upwind and uphill. So now the current problem is tulip poplar seeds.
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that's good to know. I was ruling the foam out because I'd figure they'd last a couple of months before they rotted away from moisture or the sun.

I was curious, so I got a ladder to have a look.

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They’ve been in the gutters for I think about 15 years now. The foam is now brittle, but they haven’t collapsed. They do seem to have shrunk laterally, there are now 1/2” gaps between the foams. They get blown off with the rest of the (flat) roof in the fall, otherwise ignored.

This is the type I started with:

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They‘re good for sticks and locust tree seed pods. They are not good for ash or maple seeds, locust leaves, or pretty much anything else.

These are what I have now:

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They‘ve been on the gutters for about 20 years. Most of them, the screen part has detached from the underlying plastic guard. I went through them with a tube of white caulk a few years ago to glue them all down again, which is kinda working ok. The plastic part is starting to break down from UV, so I’ll be replacing them at some point.
 

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I haven't found any that work well for oak pollen. It sticks to the screening, eventually forming a solid mass. Then the rain just rides over it and over the gutter altogether. Cleaning is a pain because part of my roof is 20' off of the ground, and we have a slippery metal roof. No way this old man is going up there!
 

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We had the foam in our last house installed by the original owner. I have no idea how old they were but the 4th year of the 5 we lived there I ripped out the ones I could reach. I might do them again though because it had taken who knows how many years for them to kind of degrade but also to get clogged w/ the tiny stuff from the asphault shingles. But even though it needed to be done it was simple. Pull them out, drop to the ground, and pop in the new one. Easy and inexpensive. This house we had built and moved into in 4/2019 and it has the simple expanded aluminum like this.
I can see the porch gutter from our bedroom and I have looked at the garage and rear sewing room gutters and they are all just fine. This shows some of the trees near the house.
 

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What about water diverters? The inside 90 degree corners with valleys cannot handle the flow of medium to heavy rain since installing a Costco brand.
 

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One thing I have always worried about in colder climates are ice damming issues? Any issues with that?
Our "leaf eaters" for water collection have those typical screens over them. In the few below freezing days we get every year, they will definitely dam up with ice. Remaining water just overflows.
 

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From what I've seen - there are PRO's and CON's to every gutter guard out there...
No such thing as a perfect gutter guard.
 

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Leafguard on the house but I installed a similar product to Firebirds guard on the garage and barn. Leafguard was to expensive for those two. Menards had them.
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I live in dense woods. A lot of oak trees around the house with branches overhanging the roof. I have the screen type that snaps over the gutters. Works great.

There’s one location that forms a V that I have to clean off once a year, but other than that, I haven’t had to go up and clean anything in 7-8 years they’ve been up.
 

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Felt with pretty much every type of gutter hairs most all have some sort of issue. I do like leaf filter the fine mesh let’s everything flow off and through it.
 

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We have so many oak and hickory trees on our property you can't see our house from Google Earth. Each October the leaves fall like rain. Before that, the acorn and hickory nuts come down.

The gutter covers on our house are the type that allow the water to flow off the roof and over the cover. There is a lip on the front of the cover and the theory is that the water tension lets the water flow around this lip and down into the gutters while any solid stuff goes over the edge and down to the ground.

These do a good job of keeping stuff out of the gutters as the troughs are quite clean. But they still allow plenty of the water to go over the edge. This really defeats the purpose of the gutters.

I didn't put any covers over the gutters on the garage. This is what they look like each year:

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I take care of this with a combination of things. First, I blow them out using this contraption:
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Then I get on a ladder and clean them out by hand. This isn't as bad as I originally thought and it only takes a little time out of my day. It typically takes two of these sessions. One at the end of September and the other in the beginning of November.

I don't know if there is a perfect gutter cover. Either they don't capture all the water coming off the roof or they trap too many leaves and you still have to clean things out manually.
 

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Not sure if there is a best gutter guard, I think it probably depends on the type of leaf litter you get. I installed the RainDrop brand gutter guards about 5 years ago and they have worked well so far. I'm surrounded mostly by poplar trees.
I also tried to make one of those leaf blower attachments but it only works on my lower roof. One side of my house is three stories so it was impracticable to clean without climbing the roof each time.
 

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I am going to add another vote for the cheap plastic ones with a nylon screen. I bought them probably 15 years ago just to try because they were so cheap and they have worked fine ever since. I have mostly Oaks but there are plenty of them.

 
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