Between 485 & 705 SQ/FT Bob Heine's Auto Emporium

[nadogail]

I don't like checking my own stuff out, I feel that the self check guy is both rude and incompetent.

 

[drivesitfar]

Good to see you’re still movin.

I broke the dead bolt at moms and went to Home Depot to buy same brand and lock and wouldn’t you know it’s 1/8 inch bigger. So instead of buying a new door I’ll be trying to drill bigger round holes where existing holes are. WTF why can’t the manufacturers have standard sizes or keep at least their own brands the same?

Anyway sounds like you resolved your garage AC issue. Congrats!!

 

[kaymccampbell]

Good to see you’re still movin.

I broke the dead bolt at moms and went to Home Depot to buy same brand and lock and wouldn’t you know it’s 1/8 inch bigger. So instead of buying a new door I’ll be trying to drill bigger round holes where existing holes are. WTF why can’t the manufacturers have standard sizes or keep at least their own brands the same?

Anyway sounds like you resolved your garage AC issue. Congrats!!

So, grab a holesaw that's the same size as the hole. Put it on far down the drill. Clamp the correct sized holesaw where it belongs. That'll give you a guide to get your bigger hole centered on the existing hole.

 

[drivesitfar]

I saw that on a couple YouTube vids a while back but thanks for reminder. Still I wish there was some standard sizing on STUFF!! Speaking of that 50 years ago they threatened us with going 100% metric in USA but maybe they just wanted us to have more tools.

 

[Squankum]

I saw that on a couple YouTube vids a while back but thanks for reminder. Still I wish there was some standard sizing on STUFF!! Speaking of that 50 years ago they threatened us with going 100% metric in USA but maybe they just wanted us to have more tools.

Well, now we have more tools!

Impression I got doing a new door handle recently was that mundane residential door handles were a standardized size -- this size or that bigger size!

 

[rharman]

@Bob Heine - No warranty? I have some LED landscape lights and a couple conked out on me. Seller just asked for pics (the fault was dim/flashing) and promptly replaced them. Seller advertises 50,000 hour life but backs it with a 3-year warranty.

 

[Bob Heine]

Do you refer to the cardboard pieces as 'crib sheets?'

Glad you're able to return to working on projects, and getting stabbed by Mother Nature is 'just part of the fun.'

Awhile ago I had a festering sore on my middle leg, and I finally decided to try to lance it, and a thorn about an inch long came smoothly out. The relief of pain was almost immediate, and with some antibiotic on it, I escaped it becoming infected. I took a picture of it, to remind me that when you're working around such plants, you can end up as a host to something nasty.

Philip, I tend to use all kinds of things to remind me. Little Post-it notes are all over the place in our home. They don't stick to my forehead very well but if they did, I'd use them to remind me of things that have to be done in the morning. It's the one time I look in the mirror. Not having an extra 10¢ to spend, I learned to read newspapers upside down during my 2-hour commutes into Manhattan. Shouldn't be that hard to teach myself to write backwards.

My successful projects almost always involve a little blood-letting and I'm an honorary member of Shorty's Safety School.

I was momentarily confused by your "festering sore on my middle leg." Thought you were describing a "short arm inspection." I realized my mistake when you mentioned "I took a picture of it" because I was certain you weren't going to post an Eliot Spitzer.

I had a pre-senior moment today at the self-checkout, I had taken about four things out of the little shopping cart and was stacking the different shapes into the brown paper bag in ways that made me very happy when it finally dawned on me that I hadn't scanned anything yet!

@Squankum, I've gotten better but my early self-checkout record was terrible. I would invariably slide some item past the scanner and put it in the bag without hearing the beep. The spy in the ceiling would catch me and lock the scanner until the jack-boot assistant could scold me and reset the machine. I mistook their feather duster for a riding crop.

When I see this kind of talk nowadays, I interpret it as "the LED's we put into this contraption are, on average, good for 50,000 hours, and we'd like to pretend the rest of this contraption is built as well as our LED supplier builds LED's. Won't you join us in our land of make-believe?"

I rarely buy extended warranties for exactly this reason. I did buy them for a fancy GE Monogram refrigerator/freezer, Profile stove and Profile built-in microwave. When the computer in the cooler died it ended up being worthwhile but the microwave was the winner. The third repair involved the main board and the extended warranty company refunded 100% of my warranty payment rather than fix it. My dear GE repairman friend had gifted me a new main board on one of the many house calls so the microwave lived on another 4 years.

I find it more cost effective to set aside the cost of the extended warranty to apply to the replacement cost of the item.

I don't like checking my own stuff out, I feel that the self check guy is both rude and incompetent.

@nadogail, matches my experience perfectly. Amazed they let us work there.

Good to see you’re still movin.

I broke the dead bolt at moms and went to Home Depot to buy same brand and lock and wouldn’t you know it’s 1/8 inch bigger. So instead of buying a new door I’ll be trying to drill bigger round holes where existing holes are. WTF why can’t the manufacturers have standard sizes or keep at least their own brands the same?

Anyway sounds like you resolved your garage AC issue. Congrats!!

Thanks Drives.

I try to take standardization fiascos in stride. Instead, I celebrate the rare times different manufacturers use the same mounting standards. It helps my sanity and I remind myself that it has been this way for as long as I've been on the planet.

In my years living on the edge of poverty, I was enraged that the big three couldn't come up with a standard 5-lug wheel pattern. A Ford rim couldn't go on a GM or Chrysler car and they used different lug nuts. Oddly, you could put a Plymouth wheel on the Ford but not the other way around because of the center hole size. When the four tires on my '56 Chevy wouldn't pass inspection, I couldn't just swap the better tires from my '55 Plymouth or '56 Ford. Dismounting 8 tires and swapping them over took hours. At least breaking the beads to was easy with a bumper jack. Having someone do the swap for me would cost as much as a set of used tires that would pass inspection. Even the lug nuts were crazy. Chevy lug nuts were 7/16-20, Ford lug nuts were 1/2-20 and the Plymouth used 9/16-18 BOLTS and half of them were left-hand thread.

Old garage AC was 10 SEER and this one is 11 SEER. It cools the garage noticeably faster but that may be partly due to the cooler temperatures we're having.

So, grab a holesaw that's the same size as the hole. Put it on far down the drill. Clamp the correct sized holesaw where it belongs. That'll give you a guide to get your bigger hole centered on the existing hole.

Kay, that's a brilliant solution. Reminds me of the old story of the well-dressed gentleman changing his tire in front of an insane asylum. In the process of changing the tire he knocked over the hubcap, spilling the five lugnuts, which fell through the sewer grate. Cursing loudly, he attracted the attention of an inmate on the other side of the fence. The inmate suggested he take one lug nut off the other three wheels and use them to re-mount the fourth rim. Astounded, the gentleman praised the inmate for the advice and the inmate said: "I'm crazy, not stupid!"

I saw that on a couple YouTube vids a while back but thanks for reminder. Still I wish there was some standard sizing on STUFF!! Speaking of that 50 years ago they threatened us with going 100% metric in USA but maybe they just wanted us to have more tools.

Drives, the only thing crazier than going metric was going half metric. I have to have two tool chests because of that. Our system of measurement is senseless. By our logic, the decimal currency system should be to the base 8. That way a 15¢ item would cost 17o[ctal]. Almost as useful as our bathroom scale in Australia -- it showed our weight in kilos and stones. It meant we felt kinda skinny or super skinny. If you're 200 pounds, you're only 90.72 kilograms or better yet, 14 stone, 4 pounds.

Well, now we have more tools!

Impression I got doing a new door handle recently was that mundane residential door handles were a standardized size -- this size or that bigger size!

@Squankum, it's a little sad we never added Whitworth fasteners to the mix. Thread pitch and size differences would be so much more challenging.

@Bob Heine - No warranty? I have some LED landscape lights and a couple conked out on me. Seller just asked for pics (the fault was dim/flashing) and promptly replaced them. Seller advertises 50,000 hour life but backs it with a 3-year warranty.

Roger, bless you! Your comment made me go back and look at all the fine print associated with the lights. The lighting manufacturing company LEONLITE is featured. Their website has no support link but they do have an e-mail contact listed. Sending an e-mail produced nothing but crickets but I did find mention of a 2-year warranty. Amazon only lists its own 30-day return. Near the bottom of the listing they show TORCHSTAR as the seller, with a link to their support telephone number. Gave them a call and Serena tells me they'll send me two new fixtures if I e-mail them my shipping address and photos of the failed modules. Obviously I had everything she needed at my fingertips. I am shocked and happy beyond belief.

 

[rharman]

@Bob Heine - LeonLite is what we have as well. On the Amazon page for our lights, it shows the 3-year warranty.
I looked at my email correspondence - TorchStar was the seller and it was Serena who handled the return.

In the words of Steven Wright....

 

[nadogail]

@Bob Heine - LeonLite is what we have as well. On the Amazon page for our lights, it shows the 3-year warranty.
I looked at my email correspondence - TorchStar was the seller and it was Serena who handled the return.

In the words of Steven Wright....

As long as the USA isn’t the only country not on Metric, I see no reason to join the rest of the world.
If we become the only holdout, then maybe I might consider making the transition.

 

[Seagoon]

As long as the USA isn’t the only country not on Metric, I see no reason to join the rest of the world.
If we become the only holdout, then maybe I might consider making the transition.

Personally I don't care what you do as long as it's all in.
In theory we went metric in the 70's but it was half-assed because the government knew there would be a lot of opposition. So we still sell beer in pints, measure roads in miles and calculate fuel consumption in miles per gallon. It is illegal to sell anything else in anything other than metric measure.
But Jam(Jelly to you I think)is sold in 454 gram jars because that is a pound and they didn't change the machinery till it wore out. Cloth is sold by the metre at 4 feet wide, again because they didn't change the machinery. Sheet Timber (plywood, OSB etc) is still sold in 8foot by 4 foot sheets I believe - it's a while since I bought any.
Most tape measures are sold with metric one side and imperial the other because you need to be bilingual in measurements.
The current government has even suggested that it might allow the revival of some other imperial measures. It's completely crazy.

As to other countries still using imperial I believe that Liberia is the only one, so if you are using that as a justification America has sunk lower than I thought.
Imperial is still perfectly usable but given the choice I prefer metric - the calculations are a lot simpler.

All it needs is for someone to make a logical decision and follow it through. Forum rules stop me from telling you how likely that is to happen.

 

[nadogail]

Personally I don't care what you do as long as it's all in.
In theory we went metric in the 70's but it was half-assed because the government knew there would be a lot of opposition. So we still sell beer in pints, measure roads in miles and calculate fuel consumption in miles per gallon. It is illegal to sell anything else in anything other than metric measure.
But Jam(Jelly to you I think)is sold in 454 gram jars because that is a pound and they didn't change the machinery till it wore out. Cloth is sold by the metre at 4 feet wide, again because they didn't change the machinery. Sheet Timber (plywood, OSB etc) is still sold in 8foot by 4 foot sheets I believe - it's a while since I bought any.
Most tape measures are sold with metric one side and imperial the other because you need to be bilingual in measurements.
The current government has even suggested that it might allow the revival of some other imperial measures. It's completely crazy.

As to other countries still using imperial I believe that Liberia is the only one, so if you are using that as a justification America has sunk lower than I thought.
Imperial is still perfectly usable but given the choice I prefer metric - the calculations are a lot simpler.

All it needs is for someone to make a logical decision and follow it through. Forum rules stop me from telling you how likely that is to happen.

The Timeframe for logical government decisions Is dependent on future weather reports.

We can expect them when we hear that Hell has Frozen Over.

 

[Bob Heine]

@Bob Heine - LeonLite is what we have as well. On the Amazon page for our lights, it shows the 3-year warranty.
I looked at my email correspondence - TorchStar was the seller and it was Serena who handled the return.

Roger, according to the LEONLITE website: "All our LED products are guaranteed with a limited warranty of at least 12 months, and in many cases five years (maximum)."

In Amazon's detailed description of the ones I bought it says: "Trustworthy Brand: As a leading provider of professional lighting solutions, we prioritize quality above all else. Rest assured when you choose our products, with a lifespan of 50,000 hours and a 2-year warranty. Contact us anytime for prompt assistance"

As long as the USA isn’t the only country not on Metric, I see no reason to join the rest of the world.
If we become the only holdout, then maybe I might consider making the transition.

@nadogail, it isn't a big deal for me in retirement but it was annoying when I was writing technical manuals. Had to include the two measurement systems in every spec. In retirement it just means opening the wrench drawers in two tool cabinets. I'm never certain which standard an airline fitting is using. The hose fittings are usually SAE but the quick connects can be either. At least I can rely on the NPT standard threads.

Personally I don't care what you do as long as it's all in.
In theory we went metric in the 70's but it was half-assed because the government knew there would be a lot of opposition. So we still sell beer in pints, measure roads in miles and calculate fuel consumption in miles per gallon. It is illegal to sell anything else in anything other than metric measure.
But Jam(Jelly to you I think)is sold in 454 gram jars because that is a pound and they didn't change the machinery till it wore out. Cloth is sold by the metre at 4 feet wide, again because they didn't change the machinery. Sheet Timber (plywood, OSB etc) is still sold in 8foot by 4 foot sheets I believe - it's a while since I bought any.
Most tape measures are sold with metric one side and imperial the other because you need to be bilingual in measurements.
The current government has even suggested that it might allow the revival of some other imperial measures. It's completely crazy.

As to other countries still using imperial I believe that Liberia is the only one, so if you are using that as a justification America has sunk lower than I thought.
Imperial is still perfectly usable but given the choice I prefer metric - the calculations are a lot simpler.

All it needs is for someone to make a logical decision and follow it through. Forum rules stop me from telling you how likely that is to happen.

@Seagoon, what is this logical thing of which you speak. This is America -- we do what feels right, regardless of any arguments to the contrary.

The Timeframe for logical government decisions Is dependent on future weather reports.

We can expect them when we hear that Hell has Frozen Over.

@nadogail, based on the summer we've just lived through I'm guessing that's not happening anytime soon.

 

[Geoff289]

Personally I don't care what you do as long as it's all in.
In theory we went metric in the 70's but it was half-assed because the government knew there would be a lot of opposition. So we still sell beer in pints, measure roads in miles and calculate fuel consumption in miles per gallon. It is illegal to sell anything else in anything other than metric measure.
But Jam(Jelly to you I think)is sold in 454 gram jars because that is a pound and they didn't change the machinery till it wore out. Cloth is sold by the metre at 4 feet wide, again because they didn't change the machinery. Sheet Timber (plywood, OSB etc) is still sold in 8foot by 4 foot sheets I believe - it's a while since I bought any.
Most tape measures are sold with metric one side and imperial the other because you need to be bilingual in measurements.
The current government has even suggested that it might allow the revival of some other imperial measures. It's completely crazy.

As to other countries still using imperial I believe that Liberia is the only one, so if you are using that as a justification America has sunk lower than I thought.
Imperial is still perfectly usable but given the choice I prefer metric - the calculations are a lot simpler.

All it needs is for someone to make a logical decision and follow it through. Forum rules stop me from telling you how likely that is to happen.

Australia also went metric in the mid 70's and it was pretty much across the board. I was very surprised to find the UK was a bit of both when I visited the first time about 10 years ago. We were still using miles when I first got my licence and my first few cars has speedos in mph and I can still instantly figure out the conversion in my head when driving my Mustang with a mph speedo. Try as I might, though, I can't deal with fuel consumption in litres/100k and always have to convert it to mpg to make sense of it.

I think we still have a few products that are sold in odd numbers of grams, centimeters or whatever because they're still basically imperial.

For any of our American friends keen to hang on to imperial systems I note that you've had a metric currency system basically forever which is a whole lot more sensible than the quite weird system we had until 1966 and the UK until 1971. Rather than changing everything else to metric, maybe the US should change their currency system to something like what we had - 2 halfpennies to a penny, 12 pennies to a shilling, 20 shillings to a pound, 1 pound and 1 shilling to a guinea.

My main motorsport interest is drag racing and in the sport we stick to mph in any discussion of terminal speeds. However, because its illegal to do otherwise media coverage is always in kph and at the tracks the read out boards are either in kph or flash from one to the other every few seconds. Of course, showing the speeds in kph involves impressively bigger numbers.

 

[Seagoon]

Australia also went metric in the mid 70's and it was pretty much across the board. I was very surprised to find the UK was a bit of both when I visited the first time about 10 years ago. We were still using miles when I first got my licence and my first few cars has speedos in mph and I can still instantly figure out the conversion in my head when driving my Mustang with a mph speedo. Try as I might, though, I can't deal with fuel consumption in litres/100k and always have to convert it to mpg to make sense of it.

I think we still have a few products that are sold in odd numbers of grams, centimeters or whatever because they're still basically imperial.

For any of our American friends keen to hang on to imperial systems I note that you've had a metric currency system basically forever which is a whole lot more sensible than the quite weird system we had until 1966 and the UK until 1971. Rather than changing everything else to metric, maybe the US should change their currency system to something like what we had - 2 halfpennies to a penny, 12 pennies to a shilling, 20 shillings to a pound, 1 pound and 1 shilling to a guinea.

My main motorsport interest is drag racing and in the sport we stick to mph in any discussion of terminal speeds. However, because its illegal to do otherwise media coverage is always in kph and at the tracks the read out boards are either in kph or flash from one to the other every few seconds. Of course, showing the speeds in kph involves impressively bigger numbers.

I must say that I agree about the impressive numbers in Metric including ladies measurements!
I had also forgotten about Americas metric currency. It does seem to be particularly odd to have one without the other.
Please understand folks we are not trying to say that one countries system is better than the other - let's face it there are oddities in all of them.

 

[Miss the Pontiacs]

Hi Bob. Did you realize that today the 24th was/is your anniversary date that you joined GJ?
Your family has its share off doctor visits in the last while. Hope that improves in the coming days.
Your Great Grand Daughter is all, little girl pink, purses, colour keyed phone, glasses. Hope your family and yourselves get back to normal soon.
Too bad about the Dragon Fruit, interesting reactions.
We were in Thailand at a smorg, Dragon Fruit was on the menu and I was up for a feed . Put a couple on my plate I found they were infested with ants. The smog area was roofed in with open windows to a lawn area. Well the Dragon Fruit became airborne and landed on the manicured grass. The ants didn’t get a chance to spread, the rest of the meal was great.
Hope you had a great day.

 

[jbmatth]

Speaking for all Americans here, if I can be so bold:



Just poking the bear for the fun of it.

In school we used the metric system about 70% of the time and had to convert between the two a ton as well. In industry now it is almost exclusively imperial. When posting on my thread I try to include both for the rest of the world that may read my ramblings.

Personally I could get used to using metric for just about everything except ambient air temps and liters/100km, km/l would be so much easier to comprehend.

JB

 

[ColorMeOrange]

I knew I smelled a BB Chev somewhere around here .

George Carlin said it best when saying. "We start out by buying a small house because we don't have much stuff. Eventually we have to move on to a bigger house, why is that?...because we have way too much stuff!"

Nice layout, filled with a lot of pretty nice stuff!"

By the way that isn't an example of a hoarder's place in my opinion. I've seen one or two and thats not what I'd consider a hoarders dwelling not by any stretch.

 

[ColorMeOrange]

Speaking for all Americans here, if I can be so bold:



Just poking the bear for the fun of it.

In school we used the metric system about 70% of the time and had to convert between the two a ton as well. In industry now it is almost exclusively imperial. When posting on my thread I try to include both for the rest of the world that may read my ramblings.

Personally I could get used to using metric for just about everything except ambient air temps and liters/100km, km/l would be so much easier to comprehend.

JB

I live in Canada and at least half of my stuff was made in the USofA. I think my only complaint is when someone works on something and introduces one or the other systems and mismatches the entire system!

 

[Squankum]

In retirement it just means opening the wrench drawers in two tool cabinets. I'm never certain which standard an airline fitting is using. The hose fittings are usually SAE but the quick connects can be either.

Seriously, that's what I reach for when doing things like air hoses/fittings, plumbing. It also became a habit because I found that when I leave the automotive world and deal with other things that were new and from China, that the size of their flats sometimes match no SAE or metric wrench I had.

They're fast and easy! And they have a "ratcheting" feature (where you just relax your hand and rotate the pliers to the next set of fastener flats). Imagine an open end wrench with zero play. Unlike a wrench, though, they squeeze and hold a workpiece steady. (And squeeze and crush and bend things.)

Let's review the propaganda videotape!

 

[Squankum]

Please understand folks we are not trying to say that one countries system is better than the other - let's face it there are oddities in all of them.

I was about to say, "Surely that can't be the case, maybe..." and then I realized the Germans are using commas for decimal points sometimes.

 

[kaymccampbell]

Speaking for all Americans here, if I can be so bold:



Just poking the bear for the fun of it.

In school we used the metric system about 70% of the time and had to convert between the two a ton as well. In industry now it is almost exclusively imperial. When posting on my thread I try to include both for the rest of the world that may read my ramblings.

Personally I could get used to using metric for just about everything except ambient air temps and liters/100km, km/l would be so much easier to comprehend.

JB

We may have put a man on the moon, but we used the metric system to do it. Everything that the astronauts and public saw were converted to imperial for easier consumption.

 

[Squankum]

By the way that isn't an example of a hoarder's place in my opinion. I've seen one or two and thats not what I'd consider a hoarders dwelling not by any stretch.

My eyes first read that as "I've seen one or two hats" and I thought, "Yeah, I doubt there's a hoarder out there with only two hats."

Here's the full Place for Your Stuff routine by Carlin:

 

[Bob Heine]

Australia also went metric in the mid 70's and it was pretty much across the board. I was very surprised to find the UK was a bit of both when I visited the first time about 10 years ago. We were still using miles when I first got my licence and my first few cars has speedos in mph and I can still instantly figure out the conversion in my head when driving my Mustang with a mph speedo. Try as I might, though, I can't deal with fuel consumption in litres/100k and always have to convert it to mpg to make sense of it.

I think we still have a few products that are sold in odd numbers of grams, centimeters or whatever because they're still basically imperial.

For any of our American friends keen to hang on to imperial systems I note that you've had a metric currency system basically forever which is a whole lot more sensible than the quite weird system we had until 1966 and the UK until 1971. Rather than changing everything else to metric, maybe the US should change their currency system to something like what we had - 2 halfpennies to a penny, 12 pennies to a shilling, 20 shillings to a pound, 1 pound and 1 shilling to a guinea.

My main motorsport interest is drag racing and in the sport we stick to mph in any discussion of terminal speeds. However, because its illegal to do otherwise media coverage is always in kph and at the tracks the read out boards are either in kph or flash from one to the other every few seconds. Of course, showing the speeds in kph involves impressively bigger numbers.

Geoff, when I lived down under I had a fair bit of free time. One of the things I did was track my mileage on a spreadsheet and did it in kilometers per litre and a conversion to miles per gallon.

I know we won't change our metric currency system. If you watched a millennial American make change without the cash register doing the math, you'd understand. I used to give cashiers the correct number of coins so they could give me all paper currency back. They got so confused they'd have to call a manager. These days, holding up a queue (line) in Florida could get you shot.

We flirt with metric in drag racing. Used to be the standard drag strip was 1/4 mile or 1320 feet. That would be 402.336 metres. When top fuel cars were going too fast, they shortened their race to 1,000 feet. As long as they were changing the race, they could have changed to metric and rounded the distance to 305 metres (1,000 feet is 304.8 metres). Brittany Force's fastest top fuel dragster run was an impressive 338.94 mph. It sounds even more impressive when it's 545.47 kph (sorry, km/h).

I must say that I agree about the impressive numbers in Metric including ladies measurements!
I had also forgotten about Americas metric currency. It does seem to be particularly odd to have one without the other.
Please understand folks we are not trying to say that one countries system is better than the other - let's face it there are oddities in all of them.

@Seagoon, I guess we should count our blessings. Time is measured the same silly way worldwide. OK, except those military folks who express afternoons and evenings in 24-hour notation. When my mother's dimentia progressed, she confused day and night and would get up at 8:00 at night to go downstairs to catch the bus to the Senior Center. I ended up buying a digital clock for her bedroom and set it to 24-hour notation. It didn't help but I thought it was worth a try.

I often use the Days Between Dates calculator to determine age. The calculator tells me the days, weeks, months and years between dates. Figuring out 365 (or 366) and dividing by 7 for weeks, and dividing by 28, 29, 30 or 31 months makes my head hurt.

Hi Bob. Did you realize that today the 24th was/is your anniversary date that you joined GJ?
Your family has its share off doctor visits in the last while. Hope that improves in the coming days.
Your Great Grand Daughter is all, little girl pink, purses, colour keyed phone, glasses. Hope your family and yourselves get back to normal soon.
Too bad about the Dragon Fruit, interesting reactions.
We were in Thailand at a smorg, Dragon Fruit was on the menu and I was up for a feed . Put a couple on my plate I found they were infested with ants. The smog area was roofed in with open windows to a lawn area. Well the Dragon Fruit became airborne and landed on the manicured grass. The ants didn’t get a chance to spread, the rest of the meal was great.
Hope you had a great day.

Emil, I didn't realize that. I ran the numbers:

Result: 5113 days
It is 5113 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date.
Or 14 years excluding the end date.
Or 168 months excluding the end date.

Turns out that's a significant part of my life (not sure why they insist on using "the end date"):

Result: 28,890 days
It is 28,890 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date.
Or 79 years, 1 month, 6 days excluding the end date.
Or 949 month, 6 days excluding the end date.

Speaking for all Americans here, if I can be so bold:



Just poking the bear for the fun of it.

In school we used the metric system about 70% of the time and had to convert between the two a ton as well. In industry now it is almost exclusively imperial. When posting on my thread I try to include both for the rest of the world that may read my ramblings.

Personally I could get used to using metric for just about everything except ambient air temps and liters/100km, km/l would be so much easier to comprehend.

JB

JB, numbers confused me in grade school. I didn't understand arithmetic at all, just did the rote memorization as I was told and hoped I'd never need to know anything more than 12x12=144. I failed a lot of tests because I didn't memorize the multiplication tables very well. Often did addition instead, using my desk as a scratch pad. When I went to work for IBM, one of the things we were taught was counting in binary, octal and hexadecimal. All of a sudden a light went off. Got a D in Algebra in high school and an A+ in advanced Algebra going to night school while working full time for IBM.

I knew I smelled a BB Chev somewhere around here .

George Carlin said it best when saying. "We start out by buying a small house because we don't have much stuff. Eventually we have to move on to a bigger house, why is that?...because we have way too much stuff!"

Nice layout, filled with a lot of pretty nice stuff!"

By the way that isn't an example of a hoarder's place in my opinion. I've seen one or two and thats not what I'd consider a hoarders dwelling not by any stretch.

@ColorMeOrange, welcome and my sincere apologies for sucking you in to my swamp.

I have to admit, I'm a sucker for BB Chevies. My thinking was that my Pontiac GTO, with it's 350 horse 400ci was mind blowing in 1968. Felt like anything smaller was a step back. We had a string of Lincolns that had 460ci engines and my backsliding to a 350ci small block '87 Corvette was a 'no-other-choice' decision. I do find boost makes up for some of the lost of cubic inches. Squeezing 556hp out of a little 378.347 engine is fine with me.

George was right about so much but his understanding of stuff was epic. It really hit us when we moved to Australia. IBM allowed you 1,500 lbs of air freight so you had to be selective about the stuff you brought. At least they gave us an 1,800 lbs on the return to the US.

I live in Canada and at least half of my stuff was made in the USofA. I think my only complaint is when someone works on something and introduces one or the other systems and mismatches the entire system!

What part of Canada?

Most of my stuff is made in China.

 

[Bob Heine]

My penmanship is horrible and even my numbers are hard to read. If the US simply adopted the Maya numbering system, things would be much simpler. They used a vigesimal (base-20) system with dots and lines. I could handle that:

By Original: Neuromancer2K4 Vector: Bryan Derksen - Own work based on: Maya.png, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=1404491

"Adding and subtracting numbers below 20 using Maya numerals is very simple. Addition is performed by combining the numeric symbols at each level:

If five or more dots result from the combination, five dots are removed and replaced by a bar. If four or more bars result, four bars are removed and a dot is added to the next higher row. This also means that the value of 1 bar is 5.

Similarly with subtraction, remove the elements of the subtrahend symbol from the minuend symbol:

If there are not enough dots in a minuend position, a bar is replaced by five dots. If there are not enough bars, a dot is removed from the next higher minuend symbol in the column and four bars are added to the minuend symbol which is being worked on."

 

[drivesitfar]

That’s a fact I never knew or heard of. Mayans we’re pretty darn smart and remember when the thinking was that the world would end in 2012 cause the Mayan calendar stopped that year?

I need to do a search for my box of old Schlage locks or I’ll have to drill bigger holes with the method Kay mentioned in Mom’s old door to accept new ones. Now do I use a metric hole saw or standard (hee hee).

How’s your health and Lianne’s and I’m thinking ok cause you haven’t talked much about it lately? Those machines your doctors have sound like they were on a spaceship.

 

[sawduststeve]

Who votes for the return of Roman Numerals

I for one


I’ll get me coat

 

[Squankum]

We may have put a man on the moon, but we used the metric system to do it. Everything that the astronauts and public saw were converted to imperial for easier consumption.

Also, metric was good for the Nazi rocket scientists involved.

 

[sawduststeve]

Also, metric was good for the Nazi rocket scientists involved.

I didn’t
Yes you did
No, you started it
No you started it, you invaded Poland.

 

[Geoff289]

I know we won't change our metric currency system. If you watched a millennial American make change without the cash register doing the math, you'd understand. I used to give cashiers the correct number of coins so they could give me all paper currency back. They got so confused they'd have to call a manager. These days, holding up a queue (line) in Florida could get you shot.

We flirt with metric in drag racing. Used to be the standard drag strip was 1/4 mile or 1320 feet. That would be 402.336 metres. When top fuel cars were going too fast, they shortened their race to 1,000 feet. As long as they were changing the race, they could have changed to metric and rounded the distance to 305 metres (1,000 feet is 304.8 metres). Brittany Force's fastest top fuel dragster run was an impressive 338.94 mph. It sounds even more impressive when it's 545.47 kph (sorry, km/h).

Yeah we went to 1.000 feet for Top Fuel cars here about 7 or 8 years after NHRA did at the insistence of the insurers after your fellow Floridian Scott Kalitta's death. They're going even faster now than they did at the end of a quarter mile but have 320 feet more of braking area.

Wonder how much longer cash will even be around.

 

[sawduststeve]

Bob, we went metric April 1971, and we’re going to fully commit to it any day now.
We went from 240 pennies to 100 pennies in the pound.
All the road signs are in yards and miles
I measure windows and order timber in imperial, then measure and order glass in metric.
When I started work (1980) glass was still referred to by weight, I did know the weights but cannot remember them now, I’ll give it some thought. 4mm glass was 16oz (?), 6mm or 1/4 plate, 32oz, but then when my dad was at school things were measured in rods, poles and perches. A chain is 22yards, the length of a cricket pitch.
A bushel of sand was about six shovels and a half yard sixty, now every thing comes in ton bags, sand isn’t sold loose anymore.

Steve

 

[rharman]

A friend of mine benefited from the imperial/metric changes. In high school (early '70's) , he set the school records in almost all the track hurdle events - 110 & 220 yard, high & low. The next year, they went to meters. No one will ever break his records!

 

[ColorMeOrange]

Geoff, when I lived down under I had a fair bit of free time. One of the things I did was track my mileage on a spreadsheet and did it in kilometers per litre and a conversion to miles per gallon.

I know we won't change our metric currency system. If you watched a millennial American make change without the cash register doing the math, you'd understand. I used to give cashiers the correct number of coins so they could give me all paper currency back. They got so confused they'd have to call a manager. These days, holding up a queue (line) in Florida could get you shot.

We flirt with metric in drag racing. Used to be the standard drag strip was 1/4 mile or 1320 feet. That would be 402.336 metres. When top fuel cars were going too fast, they shortened their race to 1,000 feet. As long as they were changing the race, they could have changed to metric and rounded the distance to 305 metres (1,000 feet is 304.8 metres). Brittany Force's fastest top fuel dragster run was an impressive 338.94 mph. It sounds even more impressive when it's 545.47 kph (sorry, km/h).

@Seagoon, I guess we should count our blessings. Time is measured the same silly way worldwide. OK, except those military folks who express afternoons and evenings in 24-hour notation. When my mother's dimentia progressed, she confused day and night and would get up at 8:00 at night to go downstairs to catch the bus to the Senior Center. I ended up buying a digital clock for her bedroom and set it to 24-hour notation. It didn't help but I thought it was worth a try.

I often use the Days Between Dates calculator to determine age. The calculator tells me the days, weeks, months and years between dates. Figuring out 365 (or 366) and dividing by 7 for weeks, and dividing by 28, 29, 30 or 31 months makes my head hurt.

Emil, I didn't realize that. I ran the numbers:

Result: 5113 days
It is 5113 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date.
Or 14 years excluding the end date.
Or 168 months excluding the end date.

Turns out that's a significant part of my life (not sure why they insist on using "the end date"):

Result: 28,890 days
It is 28,890 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date.
Or 79 years, 1 month, 6 days excluding the end date.
Or 949 month, 6 days excluding the end date.

JB, numbers confused me in grade school. I didn't understand arithmetic at all, just did the rote memorization as I was told and hoped I'd never need to know anything more than 12x12=144. I failed a lot of tests because I didn't memorize the multiplication tables very well. Often did addition instead, using my desk as a scratch pad. When I went to work for IBM, one of the things we were taught was counting in binary, octal and hexadecimal. All of a sudden a light went off. Got a D in Algebra in high school and an A+ in advanced Algebra going to night school while working full time for IBM.

@ColorMeOrange, welcome and my sincere apologies for sucking you in to my swamp.

I have to admit, I'm a sucker for BB Chevies. My thinking was that my Pontiac GTO, with it's 350 horse 400ci was mind blowing in 1968. Felt like anything smaller was a step back. We had a string of Lincolns that had 460ci engines and my backsliding to a 350ci small block '87 Corvette was a 'no-other-choice' decision. I do find boost makes up for some of the lost of cubic inches. Squeezing 556hp out of a little 378.347 engine is fine with me.

George was right about so much but his understanding of stuff was epic. It really hit us when we moved to Australia. IBM allowed you 1,500 lbs of air freight so you had to be selective about the stuff you brought. At least they gave us an 1,800 lbs on the return to the US.

What part of Canada?

Most of my stuff is made in China.

I live In between Toronto and Niagara on the lake. A little place called Port Credit Ontario.

We shoe horned BBs in all kinds of things. The easiest are the second generation Camaros. Well earlier on in years they planned adequate room when the BBs were factory options.

I knew I liked your thinking . We put a mostly stock 460 in a 85' Fox body (1985 Rustang GT). That car was so light we probably didn't need to swap the rear end gears for steeper ones. Even with a posi it had trouble hooking up on 275mm street tires as it was. Basically if you wanted the tires to stop smoking you must take your foot off the gas.

I want a decent solid driver of some kind for next spring. I sold one one too many things with wheels and wished I got a couple of those back lol.

 

[shortykorte]

Yes Bob you graduated top of the class.

 

[Bob Heine]

Sorry for the delay in responding. The weather is cooperating and I'm feeling well enough to tackle some jobs I've been putting off.

That’s a fact I never knew or heard of. Mayans we’re pretty darn smart and remember when the thinking was that the world would end in 2012 cause the Mayan calendar stopped that year?

I need to do a search for my box of old Schlage locks or I’ll have to drill bigger holes with the method Kay mentioned in Mom’s old door to accept new ones. Now do I use a metric hole saw or standard (hee hee).

How’s your health and Lianne’s and I’m thinking ok cause you haven’t talked much about it lately? Those machines your doctors have sound like they were on a spaceship.

Drives, the Mayans were pretty amazing. They created a three calendar system that's more accurate than ours and built observatories to track the movement of the Sun and Venus. They built massive stone structures with flint and obsidian tools, never used the wheel (even though their calendar is round), and used corbel vaults extensively to create open spaces in their buildings (just like the Egyptians used in some of the pyramids).

Our house has all Schlage door hardware so I have a container full of tumblers, deadbolts and levers. I prefer lever handles because I can operate them with my knee when I'm carrying something.

Today Liane's 8-pound restriction has been lifted but I've told her that's no reason to hurt herself. I'll be starting radiation treatment sometime in November. Doctor's PA mentioned that they might not be using the CyberKnife on me. Probably just radioactive stone chisels.

Who votes for the return of Roman Numerals

I for one


I’ll get me coat

Steve, I'm with you. Kids have it too easy today. They should be forced to do their arithmetic with Roman Numerals and provide their answers in Greek or Latin, all without using their phones!

Also, metric was good for the Nazi rocket scientists involved.

@Squankum, I've been wasting money on DVDS of things like The Meaning of Life, The Holy Grail and Fawlty Towers. Now I'll have to get The Flying Circus so I can re-live the "Silly Walk" sketch.

I didn’t
Yes you did
No, you started it
No you started it, you invaded Poland.

There were good people on both sides.

Yeah we went to 1.000 feet for Top Fuel cars here about 7 or 8 years after NHRA did at the insistence of the insurers after your fellow Floridian Scott Kalitta's death. They're going even faster now than they did at the end of a quarter mile but have 320 feet more of braking area.

Wonder how much longer cash will even be around.

Geoff, Scott's death was a sad day for drag racing but it resulted in changes that reduce the chances for a repeat incident. I think back to Don Garlits accident that could have killed him and it involved the same front engine design as the funny cars. Lighting the fuse on a bomb that sits in front of your face seems like a bad idea.

In a gasoline engine, the ideal air:fuel mixture is 14.7:1 with a little less air for more power and a little more for better economy. A top fuel engine uses a fuel mixture of 10% methanol and 90% nitromethane. That stuff doesn't burn as fast as gasoline so they have to squirt gasoline into the supercharger to get the engine to fire. Once the engine is running, that fuel is delivered with a 2:1 air:fuel ratio to prepare for the run. When the car launches, the air:fuel ratio goes to 1:1. So much fuel gets dumped into the cylinder that a misfire can cause the cylinder to 'hydraulic' and blow the cylinder head off the engine. I found a demo of the fuel delivery per cylinder:

https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/ca7qub
Imagine that much fuel going into each of the 8 cylinders for 4 seconds! It's a miracle any of them even make it down the track.

Bob, we went metric April 1971, and we’re going to fully commit to it any day now.
We went from 240 pennies to 100 pennies in the pound.
All the road signs are in yards and miles
I measure windows and order timber in imperial, then measure and order glass in metric.
When I started work (1980) glass was still referred to by weight, I did know the weights but cannot remember them now, I’ll give it some thought. 4mm glass was 16oz (?), 6mm or 1/4 plate, 32oz, but then when my dad was at school things were measured in rods, poles and perches. A chain is 22yards, the length of a cricket pitch.
A bushel of sand was about six shovels and a half yard sixty, now every thing comes in ton bags, sand isn’t sold loose anymore.

Steve

Steve, at least we've given up on the league. It's not real precise, ranging from 2.4 to 4.6 statute miles. In English-speaking countries the land league is generally accepted as 3 statute miles, although varying lengths from 7,500 to 15,000 feet were sometimes employed. Seems it was the distance a cannon shot could be fired at ships offshore, resulting in the 3-mile offshore territorial limit.

A friend of mine benefited from the imperial/metric changes. In high school (early '70's) , he set the school records in almost all the track hurdle events - 110 & 220 yard, high & low. The next year, they went to meters. No one will ever break his records!

Roger, I forgot about that change. I grew up with yard-length events. Of course only the length of the hurdles events went to metric. The hurdles themselves are measured in inches with a number of different heights: 27-, 30-, 33-, 36-, 39- and 42-inches, depending on age, *** and length of event.

I live In between Toronto and Niagara on the lake. A little place called Port Credit Ontario.

We shoe horned BBs in all kinds of things. The easiest are the second generation Camaros. Well earlier on in years they planned adequate room when the BBs were factory options.

I knew I liked your thinking . We put a mostly stock 460 in a 85' Fox body (1985 Rustang GT). That car was so light we probably didn't need to swap the rear end gears for steeper ones. Even with a posi it had trouble hooking up on 275mm street tires as it was. Basically if you wanted the tires to stop smoking you must take your foot off the gas.

I want a decent solid driver of some kind for next spring. I sold one one too many things with wheels and wished I got a couple of those back lol.

@ColorMeOrange, very nice area to live. Did the Niagra Falls thing several times and took a whale-watching cruise on the St.Lawrence River and Saguanay Fjord.

The 460 Fords put out so much torque you need to tread lightly on the skinny pedal. swap I wanted to do was a

Yes Bob you graduated top of the class.

Shorty, spent my best years at Remedial Studies Academy.

 

[Geoff289]

Geoff, Scott's death was a sad day for drag racing but it resulted in changes that reduce the chances for a repeat incident. I think back to Don Garlits accident that could have killed him and it involved the same front engine design as the funny cars. Lighting the fuse on a bomb that sits in front of your face seems like a bad idea.

In a gasoline engine, the ideal air:fuel mixture is 14.7:1 with a little less air for more power and a little more for better economy. A top fuel engine uses a fuel mixture of 10% methanol and 90% nitromethane. That stuff doesn't burn as fast as gasoline so they have to squirt gasoline into the supercharger to get the engine to fire. Once the engine is running, that fuel is delivered with a 2:1 air:fuel ratio to prepare for the run. When the car launches, the air:fuel ratio goes to 1:1. So much fuel gets dumped into the cylinder that a misfire can cause the cylinder to 'hydraulic' and blow the cylinder head off the engine. I found a demo of the fuel delivery per cylinder:

https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/ca7qub
Imagine that much fuel going into each of the 8 cylinders for 4 seconds! It's a miracle any of them even make it down the track.

To nobody's surprise what you say is absolutely correct Bob. I've had the opportunity to sit in a few Top Fuel cars while they're being warmed up on jacks and that is frightening enough, let alone launching one down the track.

Your also fellow Floridian Big Daddy Garlits is now 91 and still playing with drag cars but ever the innovator they're electric ones these days. The equal greatest drag racer of all time, Bob Glidden being the other.

 

[Bob Heine]

To nobody's surprise what you say is absolutely correct Bob. I've had the opportunity to sit in a few Top Fuel cars while they're being warmed up on jacks and that is frightening enough, let alone launching one down the track.

Your also fellow Floridian Big Daddy Garlits is now 91 and still playing with drag cars but ever the innovator they're electric ones these days. The equal greatest drag racer of all time, Bob Glidden being the other.

Geoff, sadly, I've never been allowed to sit in a Top Fuel car. Back in the late '60s they raced at New York National Speedway on Long Island (New York). Back then the AA Fuel dragsters had multi-disk clutches that hooked up just like the one in a manual street car. The best drivers controlled how much power got to the rear tires and their cars produced tire smoke the whole quarter mile starting with a big cloud at the starting line. Someone discovered chlorine bleach helpeed warm up the slicks and make them sticky so they poured chlorine bleach in front of the slicks on the way to the starting line (it was known as the "bleach box"). At one of the big meets I attended, with lots of Top Fuel cars, including TV Tommy Ivo and Don Garlits, they added gasoline to the bleach to were heat the tires even more. The burnouts coming out of the bleach box involved huge plumes of fire coming off the slicks. The flames coming out of the zoomie headers would usually light the gasoline but I understand they also threw a match into the puddle just to be sure it lit up. It was impressive in the daylight but truly spectacular at night. Back then, all the fastest Top Fuel slingshots were front engine. Here's Don Garlits and TV Tommy Ivo doing their thing back then.


In the late '90s I took my oldest grandsons (6 & 7) to Moroso Motorsports Park for a AA Fuel event. The AA Fuel dragsters of the '60s were loud and produced 2,000 horsepower but the ones in the late '90s hit you like a punch in the chest and produced 10,000 horsepower. Two of them going down the track at the same time is mind blowing (and ear destroying).

 

[Bob Heine]

I've had a stupid little job hanging over my head for months and finally got it done today. The EGR pipe that comes off the header attaches to the pipe that goes to the intake manifold. I made a flange to match the header flange and welded it to that pipe. Somehow I got two bolts, lock washers and nuts years ago. The manifold mods I made during the pandemic meant that pipe had to be disconnected. Try as I might, I couldn't get the second bolt, washer and nut back on. From the top it looks easy enough...

...but the rear bolt is boxed in by the plug wires on one side and the A/C evaporator box on the other. I dropped the washer a few hundred times and the nut another one or two hundred times. I even knocked the bolt out of its hole and it fell into an opening in the bodywork. I finally gave up. My frustration has worn off and I attacked it again today.

This time I used a magnet on a stick to magnetize the bolt so when I got the washer on the bolt it stayed put. Same thing with the nut. I was able to get the nut on finger tight and then used the 1/4" hex impact gun to spin the bolt fast enough to catch the lock washer and snug the mess down. It still took an hour and a half. Now I can resume my search for the special windshielf wiper motor mounting bolt that fell into the abyss on the other side of the engine. Doctor visit tomorrow so it'll have to wait for another day.

 

[Bob Heine]

Thanks to Cody, (@madison069) I had to re-organize a couple of tool chest drawers. I didn't have a ferrule crimper or the appropriate ferrule terminals for wire ends. Without a moment's hesitation I ordered the set he pointed me to. While waiting for the package to arrive, I went in the garage and looked over my crimper and terminal drawer. It's beyond full. There are terminals in another drawer and even in another cabinet and the new crimper isn't going to fit with the ones already there (won't be able to close the drawer. After removing a crimper and a wire stripper, I could close the drawer and the 1850-piece assortment of terminals fits on top of the weatherpak assortment.

I already have crimpers in other drawers so I moved a couple to the primary pliers drawer. There's more than one pliers drawer in the garage and there's even one in the shed. I had to buy another Plyworx rack so they aren't stacked two or three deep. Looks like I have two empty slots. There would be more but I had to cut the rack to fit in this tool chest. Now I need to find a place to use those short pieces.

I know I'm going to forget that I moved the wire stripper and probably have to buy a new one. I'll also have to buy another cheap crimper that has the threaded holes for trimming small imperial screws.

 

[Geoff289]

Geoff, sadly, I've never been allowed to sit in a Top Fuel car. Back in the late '60s they raced at New York National Speedway on Long Island (New York). Back then the AA Fuel dragsters had multi-disk clutches that hooked up just like the one in a manual street car. The best drivers controlled how much power got to the rear tires and their cars produced tire smoke the whole quarter mile starting with a big cloud at the starting line. Someone discovered chlorine bleach helpeed warm up the slicks and make them sticky so they poured chlorine bleach in front of the slicks on the way to the starting line (it was known as the "bleach box"). At one of the big meets I attended, with lots of Top Fuel cars, including TV Tommy Ivo and Don Garlits, they added gasoline to the bleach to were heat the tires even more. The burnouts coming out of the bleach box involved huge plumes of fire coming off the slicks. The flames coming out of the zoomie headers would usually light the gasoline but I understand they also threw a match into the puddle just to be sure it lit up. It was impressive in the daylight but truly spectacular at night. Back then, all the fastest Top Fuel slingshots were front engine. Here's Don Garlits and TV Tommy Ivo doing their thing back then.


In the late '90s I took my oldest grandsons (6 & 7) to Moroso Motorsports Park for a AA Fuel event. The AA Fuel dragsters of the '60s were loud and produced 2,000 horsepower but the ones in the late '90s hit you like a punch in the chest and produced 10,000 horsepower. Two of them going down the track at the same time is mind blowing (and ear destroying).

I've had a stupid little job hanging over my head for months and finally got it done today. The EGR pipe that comes off the header attaches to the pipe that goes to the intake manifold. I made a flange to match the header flange and welded it to that pipe. Somehow I got two bolts, lock washers and nuts years ago. The manifold mods I made during the pandemic meant that pipe had to be disconnected. Try as I might, I couldn't get the second bolt, washer and nut back on. From the top it looks easy enough...

...but the rear bolt is boxed in by the plug wires on one side and the A/C evaporator box on the other. I dropped the washer a few hundred times and the nut another one or two hundred times. I even knocked the bolt out of its hole and it fell into an opening in the bodywork. I finally gave up. My frustration has worn off and I attacked it again today.

This time I used a magnet on a stick to magnetize the bolt so when I got the washer on the bolt it stayed put. Same thing with the nut. I was able to get the nut on finger tight and then used the 1/4" hex impact gun to spin the bolt fast enough to catch the lock washer and snug the mess down. It still took an hour and a half. Now I can resume my search for the special windshielf wiper motor mounting bolt that fell into the abyss on the other side of the engine. Doctor visit tomorrow so it'll have to wait for another day.

Garlits and his Swamp Rat came to this country for a one meeting appearance at the old Castlereagh track in Sydney in late '74. In those internet free days and at the age of 19 not yet being very connected in the local drag racing community I only found out about this by accident the day before his appearance. I took off for Sydney straight after work that Friday night with no accommodation organised or anything else but I wasn't going to miss this. Slept, sort of, in the car that night, and cadged a bed on the Saturday after the race before heading home on Sunday.

As these pics indicate (sorry for the dodgy pics, I had no option but to photograph the magazine articles with my phone) he went down to our local Top Fuel hero Jim Read 2 - 1. Jim is still racing TF to this day with his son Phil in the driver's seat and his other son Bruce calling the tuning shots.




I could swap stories with you about losing nuts and bolts in an engine bay. Early Mustangs are very narrow between the shock towers. I also lost a very Mercedes specific bolt in that engine bay that my local fastener specialist couldn't supply and I had no option but to pay through the nose at the dealership.

 

[hewey]

No other sensation like a pair of Top Fuelers doing a full powered pass! I took my wife earlier this year and she enjoyed it. She also loved how accessible the pits were, compared to so many other forms of motorsport.