The VISES of Garage Journal

[jjenri]

So i picked up this fulton peerless #25. It is a small vise. 3.5 inch jaws. I camt seem to find any info on this model peerless. The handle is very cool. Not sure if original but i like the way it works. The vise works good. Thanks for any info on this little guy.

Here’s my minty one

 

[RBarnes]

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[PierceA]

Dannyr: Your vise has hints of a Peter Wright vise. Nothing exact, for sure.

PierceA

 

[dannyr]

Dannyr: Your vise has hints of a Peter Wright vise. Nothing exact, for sure.

PierceA

that's what I thought when buying it a while back, has the look, but P Wright's big thing (until v late years) was wrought iron and this is all cast (except screw, nut and jaws).

 

[DrFeelGood]

Here’s my minty one

I really like that green Craftsman back there.

 

[CRSINMICH]

DrFeelGood: Western Auto had vises in their catalogs at least as far back as 1924. In that catalog there was a common garage type vise and a Millers Falls oval slide clamp-on vise. In 1927 there was a garage vise and a clamp--on that looks like a Victor. The same two vises were offered in 1930. In Spring 1932 Western Auto only offered a Columbian common garage type vise. By fall 1932 there were two sizes of garage vises and a new clamp-on that looks like a Stanley. By 1952 Western Auto was back to only having a common garage vise.
However, in 1957 there was a two bar bench vise, yet another kind of clamp-on, a Versa-Vise, and.............
a WIZARD 4H4836!

 

[DrFeelGood]

DrFeelGood: Western Auto had vises in their catalogs at least as far back as 1924. In that catalog there was a common garage type vise and a Millers Falls oval slide clamp-on vise. In 1927 there was a garage vise and a clamp--on that looks like a Victor. The same two vises were offered in 1930. In Spring 1932 Western Auto only offered a Columbian common garage type vise. By fall 1932 there were two sizes of garage vises and a new clamp-on that looks like a Stanley. By 1952 Western Auto was back to only having a common garage vise.
However, in 1957 there was a two bar bench vise, yet another kind of clamp-on, a Versa-Vise, and.............
a WIZARD 4H4836!

Amazing detective work! Thank you for posting that.

 

[NYBODYMAN]

I picked up this Morgan 140 vise yesterday for $50 at a yard sale. It's in nice condition with no damage or repairs. It slides nicely. The swivel base seems to be missing it's bolt on the bottom and the swivel base handle has a slight bend. Looking for any information about it ie: date code location if any, value, what the bolt looked like that held the swivel base on and where I can possibly get a replacement or just use a generic bolt/washer, and original color if any. Thanks for any help.

 

[cretedog]

I restored a 140 for a guy some time ago- he didn't want the swivel base and it's still laying in my shop with the bolts it came with. Previous owner just had a 3/4"-10 x 1-1/2" hex bolt and flat washer in it. The correct bolt would likely have a 1" dia. shoulder about 5/8" long...

 

[NYBODYMAN]

I restored a 140 for a guy some time ago- he didn't want the swivel base and it's still laying in my shop with the bolts it came with. Previous owner just had a 3/4"-10 x 1-1/2" hex bolt and flat washer in it. The correct bolt would likely have a 1" dia. shoulder about 5/8" long...

Thanks for the info. I notice yours has 140 stamped on the bottom and mine doesn't. Any particular reason why?

 

[cretedog]

Not sure NY. Note that the 140 is on the INSIDE of the base...

 

[SkyPuncher]

Anyone have the outer swivel base ring for a 1982 Wilton C3 . What other vises would have this same outer ring?

Try here, great seller and member here

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[danielbuck]

my beater vise that I keep outside.

 

[Vise_Squad]

tell me if these strange limey vices are boring you, but I'm on a roll in the refurb shop (wife's greenhouse) and here's another - due to replace my Record 74 (fine, but quite common here - I like rarities)

Usually the vise part of a multi purpose tool is a disappointment, but this works for me - solid, medium sized, with usable anvil:-





can you spot the vise in there??







The only part I'd really like is the pipe jaw inserts, but could make this.

I can spot the clamping wing nut and washer pretty much copied from the Record Auto-vise (all steel model)

£9 was practically two weeks wages for a workman in those days.

 

[dannyr]

I can spot the clamping wing nut and washer pretty much copied from the Record Auto-vise (all steel model)

yup, much the same - but then Record Auto-Vice's screw was like some much older vises.

In fact I swapped out my Record 74 A-V for this one - have a thing about rarity, and does the job I need just as well.

 

[Josh91RY]

My woden 00 vise. Marked 1953. Looks hilarious next to the paramo no. 6

 

[jonshonda]

@02WS6SSZ71 nice score on the Starrett. That doesn't seem to be a very common vise from what I remember.

Also that big Prentiss is in amazing condition! If you ever want a companion for the 23, I have a 22 I am looking to pass onto another owner.

 

[SkyPuncher]

Josh91RY, could you post a picture of the date marking on your Woden? That is more hilarious than a record 1 and a paramo 6!

 

[tool_scrounge]

Josh91RY, could you post a picture of the date marking on your Woden? That is more hilarious than a record 1 and a paramo 6!

Where is the date marking on a Woden vice?

 

[KMScott]

Josh what is the jaw width on your B/00 Woden?Very clean for its age. Nice looking vice.

 

[Josh91RY]

Josh91RY, could you post a picture of the date marking on your Woden? That is more hilarious than a record 1 and a paramo 6!

There is a clear 53 stamped in the bottom of the woden. Im ASSUMING that is the date but maybe someone more knowledgeable could chime in if they know otherwise. adding a pic of it compared to my record no. 1 just for fun. The no. 1 has a swivel base which I thought was cool for such a small vise. I'd be interested to know if anyone has an idea on the age of that one too.
@SkyPuncher @tool_scrounge

 

[Josh91RY]

Josh what is the jaw width on your B/00 Woden?Very clean for its age. Nice looking vice.

Jaw width is 2 1/4 inch. Im not sure what I'm going to use it for other than garage jewelry at the moment

 

[Oregon rock crusher]

There is a current thread in the vintage section discussing the time frame of the Woden vise model numbers here. https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/dating-of-woden-vice.525041/
There are several catalogues linked there including both a 52' cat and a 56'. Both catalogues bracketing 1953 as well as a few earlier and later show the 186B/** numbering system for these Woden vices rather that the B/** numbers. The question of that thread is just when were the B/** model vises made? I think the dates are still in doubt but would love to see a catalogue showing the B/** numbered vises.

 

[dannyr]

Josh what is the jaw width on your B/00 Woden?Very clean for its age. Nice looking vice.

most UK bench vice/vise makers (several of them) used standard jaw widths, but sometimes variations in naming -- the 00 (sometimes called 0A) was usually 2.25ins, - the 0 size was 2.5ins.

In fact there was a much earlier Woden 00 with narrower jaws (1.75in) - a much smaller and cruder vise -- plus one or two smaller 00s from Germany and India

 

[Josh91RY]

There is a current thread in the vintage section discussing the time frame of the Woden vise model numbers here. https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/dating-of-woden-vice.525041/
There are several catalogues linked there including both a 52' cat and a 56'. Both catalogues bracketing 1953 as well as a few earlier and later show the 186B/** numbering system for these Woden vices rather that the B/** numbers. The question of that thread is just when were the B/** model vises made? I think the dates are still in doubt but would love to see a catalogue showing the B/** numbered vises.

Wow, it's crazy that was just posted within the last week. I'm new here, but I love the endless vat of knowledge. Thanks for the link!

 

[cretedog]

Some vocational school vises for the spreadsheet....

State University of Iowa 3-1/4" jaws, opens 3-1/4", 22lbs, stationary, stationary, replaceable

 

[cretedog]

Some vocational school vises for the spreadsheet....

Green Bay Vocational School 4" jaws, opens 5-1/2", 32lbs, stationary, stationary, replaceable

 

[cretedog]

Some vocational school vises for the spreadsheet....

Michigan State Board of Control for Vocational Education 4" jaws, opens 5-3/4", 47lbs, stationary, stationary, replaceable

 

[ranger08]

There is a clear 53 stamped in the bottom of the woden. Im ASSUMING that is the date but maybe someone more knowledgeable could chime in if they know otherwise. adding a pic of it compared to my record no. 1 just for fun. The no. 1 has a swivel base which I thought was cool for such a small vise. I'd be interested to know if anyone has an idea on the age of that one too.
@SkyPuncher @tool_scrounge

no its not the date, Woden didn't stamp them unlike usa made vices, its either a part number of assembly number

 

[lardy1]

This is for sale locally. I'm not familiar with vise brands but it's for sale for $45.00. No other photo's in the listing.

 

[Dave600]

This is for sale locally. I'm not familiar with vise brands but it's for sale for $45.00. No other photo's in the listing.

Desmond Stephan Utility vise. From 3" jaw width up to 5 inch. Swivel base. Here is a catalog page of it from 1952. I have a couple. Nice....not big. Photo of the other side will give you the model number (jaw width) etc.

 

[StillTooManyHobbies]

I just bought this 3.5" Grand Vise Master for $15. It's in decent shape but but it's missing the quick release trigger, the spring, and I am not sure what else is missing as there is nothing to hold the jaw from moving. Can anybody help me out?

 

[Willy Wilson]

I sold my AS 79 and Wilton HD users, so i pulled a Fulton 28 off the shelf and built a stand for it. I don't think i will ever sell the Vise thought.

 

[Firstram]

I sold my AS 79 and Wilton HD users, so i pulled a Fulton 28 off the shelf and built a stand for it. I don't think i will ever sell the Vise thought.

I like a naked vise, paint is overrated!

 

[Willy Wilson]

I like a naked vise, paint is overrated!

I think I’ve painted 1 Vise in my time, for me its WD40, BLO, and Gold raised letters.

 

[master Zoda]

I just bought this 3.5" Grand Vise Master for $15. It's in decent shape but but it's missing the quick release trigger, the spring, and I am not sure what else is missing as there is nothing to hold the jaw from moving. Can anybody help me out?

I would assume it has to do with the quick release mechanism. Can you see if the half nut is engaged without the other missing parts or is it even there?

 

[Willy Wilson]

I just bought this 3.5" Grand Vise Master for $15. It's in decent shape but but it's missing the quick release trigger, the spring, and I am not sure what else is missing as there is nothing to hold the jaw from moving. Can anybody help me out?

Grand Specialties Co. - Assigned Patents | VintageMachinery.org

Here is a link where a bunch of their pat are compiled.

 

[Willy Wilson]

I just bought this 3.5" Grand Vise Master for $15. It's in decent shape but but it's missing the quick release trigger, the spring, and I am not sure what else is missing as there is nothing to hold the jaw from moving. Can anybody help me out?

 

[Willy Wilson]

From Vintage Machines

 

[StillTooManyHobbies]

@willy, thanks for the quick reply. It appears the half nut pivots into position against the threaded rod and is held by a long spring . My chances of finding a replacement part are probably very slim.