American Logging Company.

[Mike'smeatshop]

I bought this Cant Hook last week and I found some stamping on it. AM Logging Evart Mi. Now can you RTM find me any info on it. I was thinking of rehanging it with a aluminum ball bat. Just cut the end off and add some wood to extend the handle. Thanks.

 

[RTM]

Try here.

AMerican Logging tool Evart Mi - Google Search

 

[Mike'smeatshop]

Try here.

AMerican Logging tool Evart Mi - Google Search

Thank you. Thank you very much.

 

[Roberts210]

That will come in handy if you cut much firewood! I got a used peavy at the salvage yard with no handle and was able to find a good, Hickory handle for it. I use it every time I cut wood.

 

[Mike'smeatshop]

That will come in handy if you cut much firewood! I got a used peavy at the salvage yard with no handle and was able to find a good, Hickory handle for it. I use it every time I cut wood.

You should check out those books RTM found for me. Everything you wanted or needed to know. It will be days till I finish.

 

[Mike'smeatshop]

North Eastern Loggers Handbook.

 

[2oolhound]

That's cool. I did the same thing for one, used a baseball bat for a handle. You need a tooth for the end so it bites the log. The other issue you can have is a real cant hook handle tapers down at the tip where the tooth goes. This allows you to grab bigger logs. You could turn the tip of the bat down to get the proper size. You can also use a longer hook but the narrower tip allows you some side movement you don't get with a broad wide tip like I have on my aluminum one linked below. Side movement allows you to grab a log on an angle instead of being more square to it.

Here's a link to some cant hooks I made handles for (one's an aluminum bat too):
Cant hooks

 

[Mike'smeatshop]

That's cool. I did the same thing for one, used a baseball bat for a handle. You need a tooth for the end so it bites the log. The other issue you can have is a real cant hook handle tapers down at the tip where the tooth goes. This allows you to grab bigger logs. You could turn the tip of the bat down to get the proper size. You can also use a longer hook but the narrower tip allows you some side movement you don't get with a broad wide tip like I have on my aluminum one linked below. Side movement allows you to grab a log on an angle instead of being more square to it.

Here's a link to some cant hooks I made handles for (one's an aluminum bat too):
Cant hooks

I had a heck of a time finding your thread. And I wanted to bring it back up to show what you did. It should be in the antique tool section. Thanks.

 

[four.cycle]

American / American Logging Tool Co., 302 No. Main., Evart, MI / est. 1906 / https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/american-logging-company.527416/ /

 

[2oolhound]

North Eastern Loggers Handbook.

Thanks RTM for the link and Mike for the mention! I'm going to get lost in there for a while.

I had a heck of a time finding your thread. And I wanted to bring it back up to show what you did. It should be in the antique tool section. Thanks.

Thanks Mike ....but ...but I don't think of them as antique, jeez not yet (am I that old???). I left the country 35 years ago and came to the city to help with urgent family matters and I got stuck here. I want to get back though. I've been going to swap meets for the past 10 years and picking up old rusty hardware. There was an older woman that used to come with a bunch of her late logger husband's rusty junk. She'd lay a tarp in her suv and just pile stuff on it from his old sheds and at the swap meet she'd just pull the whole tarp out of her vehicle and dump it on the ground. One day I walked by and asked her "you mind if I just roll around in there for a bit?" She looked at me and asked "you want to roll around in there?" Yeah I said, I just want to roll in it for a bit. We both had a good laugh but that about sums up the attachment you get for some of this stuff. (picture a dog rolling in horseshit)

 

[Mike'smeatshop]

This Company has been in business and making these tools for close to 100 years, so I believe most are antique. You do very good work and I plan to use a aluminum ball bat but I must of gave them all to my daughter. Now was the length of your aluminum bat long enough after all said and done? Or should I add some length to it, be it with wood or another bat? I watch a video of a guy using one but he added wood to the end with the hog nose in tacked. Plus I was thinking of using this old Conestoga wagon axle hub to the end for the hog nose. What ya think man?

 

[2oolhound]

That axle hub is too heavy. Keep it light. I'd turn the tip of the wooden bat down to a taper and try to find an original tip for it until you find an aluminum bat to work with. I'll give you the dimensions for the taper later.

Cant hooks aren't too robust like peevees are. They're more designed for rolling logs which doesn't take much force.

With peevees you could go into a deck of logs and force the pin tip between 2 logs while a 2nd guy would do the same on the other side of the log then you both would pry opposite each other lifting the log up above the others in the deck. You'd slide a 2x4 under the raised end then go get the top of the log up on top of the deck the same way. Peevees have thicker longer handles for that type of work. Old peevees usually have banana curves handles from a lifetime of this type of work.

Cant hooks never see that kind of work. We had a 16 yr old working with us who claimed he couldn't flip a log. Flipping a log is grabbing a log that is notched and sitting down tight on the wall of a log house. When you start to flip it the only contact points are the side edge of the notches once you start turning your lifting side up. So for the 1st part you're yanking on considerable weight but as you get the log lifting up and more weight crosses over to the other side of the edges of the notches where it touches, it gets easier. I tried showing the kid how to put his knee under the cant hook handle and use his thigh and leg to help lift which made it real easy but he was suborn. Then I'd flip a 40' log with one hand just to show him it wasn't that hard. I'm just saying this to demonstrate that a cant hook handle doesn't have to be that skookum. A baseball bat should do fine but you would have to be careful when really torque'n with it as I admit bats get pretty thin at the bottom of the handle. I'm pretty sure I could make a wood bat handle last pretty long but you may have to choke up on it some times.

Cant hooks got their name from sawmilling. Once a log got a slab cut off and had a flat side it was called a cant. A cant hook was used to roll the cant onto the flat side so you could rip the next slab square to the previous cut. A cant hook can't grab a big log because of the angle of the slope or round. The tooth won't grab on a big log because the angle is wrong. This is why there are different sized hooks and handles but once a log is big enough it's time to get a machine or other method to handle it.

sorry for the essay

 

[Mike'smeatshop]

That axle hub is too heavy. Keep it light. I'd turn the tip of the wooden bat down to a taper and try to find an original tip for it until you find an aluminum bat to work with. I'll give you the dimensions for the taper later.

Cant hooks aren't too robust like peevees are. They're more designed for rolling logs which doesn't take much force.

With peevees you could go into a deck of logs and force the pin tip between 2 logs while a 2nd guy would do the same on the other side of the log then you both would pry opposite each other lifting the log up above the others in the deck. You'd slide a 2x4 under the raised end then go get the top of the log up on top of the deck the same way. Peevees have thicker longer handles for that type of work. Old peevees usually have banana curves handles from a lifetime of this type of work.

Cant hooks never see that kind of work. We had a 16 yr old working with us who claimed he couldn't flip a log. Flipping a log is grabbing a log that is notched and sitting down tight on the wall of a log house. When you start to flip it the only contact points are the side edge of the notches once you start turning your lifting side up. So for the 1st part you're yanking on considerable weight but as you get the log lifting up and more weight crosses over to the other side of the edges of the notches where it touches, it gets easier. I tried showing the kid how to put his knee under the cant hook handle and use his thigh and leg to help lift which made it real easy but he was suborn. Then I'd flip a 40' log with one hand just to show him it wasn't that hard. I'm just saying this to demonstrate that a cant hook handle doesn't have to be that skookum. A baseball bat should do fine but you would have to be careful when really torque'n with it as I admit bats get pretty thin at the bottom of the handle. I'm pretty sure I could make a wood bat handle last pretty long but you may have to choke up on it some times.

Cant hooks got their name from sawmilling. Once a log got a slab cut off and had a flat side it was called a cant. A cant hook was used to roll the cant onto the flat side so you could rip the next slab square to the previous cut. A cant hook can't grab a big log because of the angle of the slope or round. The tooth won't grab on a big log because the angle is wrong. This is why there are different sized hooks and handles but once a log is big enough it's time to get a machine or other method to handle it.

sorry for the essay

No sorry. That is good information. When I was in my 20s, I would get laid off in the winters for Union Heavy Highway construction. So I would walk down the road from my place and off bear from the head saw at the sawmill. Yoe would have to learn to flop the lumber coming off. Big 12 Quarter lumber Oak. And I did have to weld an old Frick mill back together from being in a sawmill fire. After it was all put back together that was the first time I learn to use a cant hook.

I will find something else to make a Hog nose.

I typed in Can't hook in the search section on this forum and could not find anything. Must be the way I spelled it. ???

 

[RTM]

I typed in Can't hook in the search section on this forum and could not find anything. Must be the way I spelled it. ?

It works for me. Autocorrect tried for Can’t

Search results for query: Cant hook

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[four.cycle]

"modern" peavey/peevee (spellings vary regionally on these, apparently.) one of my brothers-in-law gave me this about 30 years ago. I think I actually used it a couple times before I gussied it all up.
this one has a stouter handle than other units I used previously (which had much thinner handles - more like a shovel handle.)

 

[Mike'smeatshop]

"modern" peavey/peevee (spellings vary regionally on these, apparently.) one of my brothers-in-law gave me this about 30 years ago. I think I actually used it a couple times before I gussied it all up.
this one has a stouter handle than other units I used previously (which had much thinner handles - more like a shovel handle.)

That would be the ideal tool to use to keep your saw tip out of the dirt. Is it heavy carrying around. I am thinking of creating an end like that.

 

[four.cycle]

^ Yeah, great for jockeying a log up off the ground so you're not poking the nose of the bar into the dirt.
Very heavy, bulky, and awkward to carry. Quite effective in use, however. Nothing argues with it.