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Door Opener on Metal Ceiling?

75Shark

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Does anyone have any advice on installing a door opener to a metal ceiling? The problem is with the shape of the ceiling (I think it is called corrugated). What can I attach my rear supporting perforated angle iron to? Any suggestions and/or pictures would be great. I am heading to HD or Lowes in the morning for their advice, as I would like to install tomorrow. Thanks in advance.

BTW...here is a picture of the ceiling.
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hdroadkingc

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I would check on the opener by Wayne Dalton that fits above the door on the rod with the spring. It mounts to the wall above door.
 

Quiksilver

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I have never put one on a metal ceiling. But, shouldn't the opener mount the same way the garage door mounts to the ceiling?
 
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nova65ss

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Did you cut around the door backhangs? The left door doesn't even look like it has an angle piece to keep it from rocking, it it doesn't I would get one on there. I would probably make the one on the right door a little longer for more strength. You can just mount the angle over the top of the metal no problem. I wouldn't tighten it too much though to keep it from bending the metal all up.

On another note I would suggest against the Wayne Dalton operator nothing but problems.
 
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75Shark

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Did you cut around the door backhangs? The left door doesn't even look like it has an angle piece to keep it from rocking, it it doesn't I would get one on there. I would probably make the one on the right door a little longer for more strength. You can just mount the angle over the top of the metal no problem. I wouldn't tighten it too much though to keep it from bending the metal all up.

On another note I would suggest against the Wayne Dalton operator nothing but problems.

Wow...good eye. I have been in and out of that building hundreds of times and never noticed that. It looks like the builder forgot to finish that one, since all the others are done. I have added a piece and it is much more stable. Thanks for picking that up.

Are you suggesting that the angle bracket for the opener can be mounted on the 1"drop that is caused by the shape of the ceiling panel? I had the same thought. Since there is a 1" air space between the metal and the truss, I thought about driving lag screws through the angle bracket into the truss, but only snugging them to the poit where they do not deform the metal.

Or, do you think I can just put a 2X4 above the ceiling and screw directly into that. The metal is 29 gauge, and is pretty sturdy (I have stepped on it before without it deforming)?

Either way, I could not get anything done due to not having a long enough opener (my door is 8' instead of 7'). I also can not find an upper door support for my door with an 18" panel on top rather than a 22" panel. Any suggestions?
 

PAToyota

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Or, do you think I can just put a 2X4 above the ceiling and screw directly into that. The metal is 29 gauge, and is pretty sturdy (I have stepped on it before without it deforming)?

You are going to definitely have to support things with something above the metal ceiling. 29ga? Wow! That's practically foil... I think of 20ga as thin for sheet metal... It will not support any load. You'll need a 2x4 between joists (with the long side vertical) to support a load. I'd then use spacers below the ceiling so that you can snug the opener up to them without pushing against the ceiling - again, over time, it would loosen up as the ceiling panel compressed.
 

nova65ss

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29 gauge steel is actually very thin. I would say screwing through it and tightening to the point where it doesn't bend the metal would be fine. What kind of openers are you getting, it should not be hard to find an extension to allow for an 8' door. In regards to the opener bracket you should be able to cut some of the one made for a 21" section and us it. Or just switch the panels we always put the 18" sections in the middle and the 21's on top and bottom, I think it looks better. If you do switch them just clamp the doors down to keep them from flying up after you take the weight off.:thumbup:
 
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