Looking for a supplier for a flat roof open scupper?

[paredown]

One of those things that seems hard to find. The copper trade folks have a CAD drawing (but no template of the flat layout starting point) and most of what I can find presumes that you are working on a commercial flat roof, typically with a parapet where you are going through it, so the scuppers are closed.
Mine is a flat roof, where you use an open scupper that goes into a downspout collector (or sometimes into a gutter run.

The problem I'm trying to address is that the ones that are currently in place are too high relative to the roof deck, and one does not drain very well (until there is a lot of water ponding) and the second drains a little better, but is still higher than the roof deck.

I snagged two pictures off a roofer's web site (of an install)--I'm looking for a supplier who makes these. These are going into gutter box

Doesn't have to be copper, but will use that if necessary.
(Alternately a usable template for flat cutting and solder and I could probably make one out of copper...)

 

[Dmccollum68]

There are lots of companies that make conductor heads, which is what is pictured there, the scupper typically drains through a raised edge or a parapet wall. These are normally two different items, a drip edge (or fascia/gravel stop) on the roof that drains into a conductor head.

Here is a link for conductor heads, you can search premanufactured conductor heads and find plenty, if that’s what you are looking for.

Shop K&M Sheet Metal & Gutter Supply

Our Economy line. Functionality that does not break the bank. Every leader head is hand crafted to give you a conductor head that will last the test of time.

www.kmsheetmetal.com

 

[paredown]

There are lots of companies that make conductor heads, which is what is pictured there, the scupper typically drains through a raised edge or a parapet wall. These are normally two different items, a drip edge (or fascia/gravel stop) on the roof that drains into a conductor head.

Here is a link for conductor heads, you can search premanufactured conductor heads and find plenty, if that’s what you are looking for.

Shop K&M Sheet Metal & Gutter Supply

Our Economy line. Functionality that does not break the bank. Every leader head is hand crafted to give you a conductor head that will last the test of time.

www.kmsheetmetal.com

Swing and a miss--if you read carefully, you will see that I was indeed asking about scuppers that are (a) open, and (b) drain into what you call a conductor head and I called a "downspout collector" and "gutter box" since I was unclear about nomenclature for gutters.

And yes, I already found lots of folks selling "conductor heads" -- and I'm still looking for someone who makes scuppers as pictured that are fitted flush to the roof deck, go through an opening made in the cants and drip edge, and yes, drain into a conductor head.

 

[phred]

It’s been my experience over the last 40 years in the construction business that scuppers are typical fabricated for each specific job. Not saying that no one makes standard scuppers but I have never seen them. Just about any competent sheet metal shop can knock out what you need in a matter of hours.

 

[paredown]

It’s been my experience over the last 40 years in the construction business that scuppers are typical fabricated for each specific job. Not saying that no one makes standard scuppers but I have never seen them. Just about any competent sheet metal shop can knock out what you need in a matter of hours.

I suspected as much--but I got seduced by all the through-wall ones being flogged on Amazon--you would think there was not much of a market for those either. The roofer from whom I borrowed the pictures were using their in-house copper expertise as a selling feature so you are probably right.

It may be time to get out the cardboard and rule, and look at the CAD and see if I can come up with a flat template and a folding pattern. For some reason (probably partly high taxes) we have a shortage of small shops/skilled tradespeople--I have yet to find a good sheet metal shop other than HVAC tin knockers, and very few of those too.