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Outlawmws

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I always thought the 50's issued to ground troops had a hanger on the side and the main box hung on that with the lid removed.
 

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I always thought the 50's issued to ground troops had a hanger on the side and the main box hung on that with the lid removed.
Your box preceded that development. That was introduced for two reasons, to hang it directly on the gun, and to make it lighter/cheaper. The old boxes continued to be made through most of the war. I don't think they stamped a date on them anywhere, so it is possible that it is prewar.

I found one last year, and did some research to identify it.

***** for the stubby drivers!
 

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I'm familiar with Rocky mountain oysters. "Boneless Rocky Mountain Trout" have me worried.
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That's a cool old menu. Those prices.
I'll have the lamb chops with rasher of bacon. Better make that two. Had to look up rasher, apparently it means thin slice.
 

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With nothing to hang the can onto the gun? Do they hold "the whole nine yards" loading into plane's magazines?
A belt-fed fifty gun would have a shelf to hold the can. Planes weren't the only place where the fifties were used.
I always thought the 50's issued to ground troops had a hanger on the side and the main box hung on that with the lid removed.
Your box preceded that development. That was introduced for two reasons, to hang it directly on the gun, and to make it lighter/cheaper. The old boxes continued to be made through most of the war. I don't think they stamped a date on them anywhere, so it is possible that it is prewar.
The M17 was not prewar. It replaced the M3 (1934) in March 1942. The M3 was similar, but was made of aluminum, had a leather handle, it is usually found with the remains of an internal padding material, and it will be marked M3 with a different drawing number (D7260) on the front. I have never seen an M3 or M17 with any kind of loops or mounting bracket on the back, but I have heard they came that way for cav and USAAC use, respectively. For all other ground troops, it went on the ground next to the gun. The M17 was replaced by the much more familiar M2 with the collapsible metallic handle and the wire hanger etc in August 1942. They are much less common than the M2.
 

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We were able to help out a family with some pricing of collectibles and in return they let us make first offers. Not much there that I usually pickup, a lot of collectible glass, carnival, tea cups, salt and pepper, and decanters.

$40 for all
Jar of Marbles
two basketball trophies
knock off Lego blocks with some vintage Lego sets stuffed in
Two Tonka Dozers
VW Beetle decanter
Misc 1/2 and 3/4 sockets - S-K, Blackhawk, Snap-on, Craftsman
1/4 sockets that were said to all be Taiwan but there ended up being a set of PowrKraft
Huot machinists tool box with Phillips 66 sticker

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You ****! I never run across those.


That would be a lifetime supply for me, you couldn't grab at least one?
This is the same place (different dealer) that I found my other Whitman & Barnes number drill stand years ago.

I estimate that the wooden one is about 100 years old. The feet are quite spindly. I cannot imagine that very many have survived intact.
 

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The M17 was not prewar. It replaced the M3 (1934) in March 1942. The M3 was similar, but was made of aluminum, had a leather handle, it is usually found with the remains of an internal padding material, and it will be marked M3 with a different drawing number (D7260) on the front. I have never seen an M3 or M17 with any kind of loops or mounting bracket on the back, but I have heard they came that way for cav and USAAC use, respectively. For all other ground troops, it went on the ground next to the gun. The M17 was replaced by the much more familiar M2 with the collapsible metallic handle and the wire hanger etc in August 1942. They are much less common than the M2.
Here is a link to a Youtube video which explains these cans. Start at the 7:40 point to see the discussion of them. He says that they were only made for a few months in 1942.
 

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He's not wrong. I guess it depends on one's definition of "a few," but March to August 1942, as I posted, isn't a long period of production, that's for sure, contributing to their scarcity. Ordnance Committee Item Number 17976, adopting the M17, is dated March 31, 1942. Ordnance Committe Item Number 18810, adopting the M2, is dated August 31, 1942.
 
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Could he be wrong in assuming that the production of M17's ended when the M2 was adopted, rather than continuing until the production of M2's could fill the requirements?
 

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I missed posting these from yesterday:

From a block sale: A cheap plastic box full of mostly Exacto knife handles and blades, and other sharp pointy tools, as well as Tweexers, Pentel pencil supplies, a German wood pencil sharpener, Etc: $2 all


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Two skillets, $2 each:

Square I have not ID'ed - Maybe after the crud is cleaned off - #3 on the bottom of the handle's root, single pure, with raised rips in the bottom.

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Round is a #3 Lodge with the hest ring with notches at 3, 9, and 12 O'clock

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Today was much cheaper than yesterday!

$5 YS - SO punch, 12-13 mm obstruction wrench, #1 Phillips, Park Chain breaker Craftsman ratchet wrench -

BEFORE:

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AFTER basci cleaning:

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YS but the just posred "free" for everything today, no one there:

Jumpers and double knofe switc: Guesing the cables are 6 ga?

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A PS i'm hoping wil do for light Nickle plating 18V 2A capacity - and an Aircraft radio receiver C band? Research needed...

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NOS Cable cains, and 4 DVD Sci-fi movies.

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Porcelainware plates SS cup:

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3-D goggles? (With case not pictured) another research project, but will probably leave for my Gamer daughter to do:

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Tax book for my oldest daughter as she is looking at her own business.

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Aluminum Extrusion 3' - material as this stuff keeps comming up for possible projects,

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Last stop: $1 for all:

Browning belt tension tool, Goodell-prstt thread gauge Spark plug chaser,and a cow bell


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The M17 was not prewar. It replaced the M3 (1934) in March 1942. The M3 was similar, but was made of aluminum, had a leather handle, it is usually found with the remains of an internal padding material, and it will be marked M3 with a different drawing number (D7260) on the front. I have never seen an M3 or M17 with any kind of loops or mounting bracket on the back, but I have heard they came that way for cav and USAAC use, respectively. For all other ground troops, it went on the ground next to the gun. The M17 was replaced by the much more familiar M2 with the collapsible metallic handle and the wire hanger etc in August 1942. They are much less common than the M2.
Yes, they did make the M3 with loops. This is the only one I have ever seen in person.

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Could he be wrong in assuming that the production of M17's ended when the M2 was adopted, rather than continuing until the production of M2's could fill the requirements?
Your youtuber is not the only one who thinks the M17 was only made for a short while in 1942. They are prized in the community for being so scarce and that kind of goes with the story. But yes, it is possible. I've never looked into it beyond the sequencing. I just checked the names of the manufacturers I know of (Belmont Casket, Artcraft, Modern Steel, and Uchtorff - if you or anyone else knows of any others, let me know and I will look them up) in my WPB contracts books and it's impossible to distinguish. The titles are too vague. Lots of "AMMUNITION BOXES" or "AMMUNITION CHESTS". I saw a few contract titles in 1943, 1944 and 1945 that included M2, but none of the 1942 contracts called out M3, M17, or M2.
This is the only one I have ever seen in person.
There ya go. In looking over my summary, it should be noted that some BMG's had that sort of ammo chest rack on the side, and either the M3, M17, or M2 would fit in that.
 

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Hit a local estate sale that said "TOOLS", and did not disappoint. Smaller wrenches were $1 and largers ones were $2. Definitely was fun digging through the bins as you never know what to expect when you see the listings for estate sales. The sale was being put up by friends of the homeowner who was having to move to assisted living. It was sad seeing all he had to let go, but learned some interesting stories from his friends and I hope to add to the stories these tools will have. He race cars, dirtbikes, and road bikes. The guy seemed like he was a machine.
  • ratcheting Gearwrench metric wrenches. 8, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 2x 18
  • "DIN 838" deep offset double box end wrenches. 8/9, 10/11, 16/17, 18/19, 20/22
  • Hazet 625 3/8", 7/16" offset double box end wrench
  • Blue Point 3/8", 7/16" offset double box end wrench 1946 Date Code.
  • Craftsman USA crowfoot 10mm-18mm with a surprise 19mm Snap-On Flare Nut crowfoot
  • USA Craftsman pry bar that looks unused
  • Mitutoyo Mag base and dial indicator
  • Craftsman USA combo 7mm & 8mm offset ratcheting wrench. A cool little tool that might get used, or might sit.
  • Lilse bearing race driver kit
  • Snap-On 3/8" Drive Ferret F-70N 1941 Date Code. This one is the coolest tool in my opinion and it's now my oldest Snap-On tool.
  • Watkins aluminum camber gauge frame
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Nice funds, this weekend, gents! Many of you (Outlaw in particular) brought in some cool gross tonnage!

I had a rare second sale stop, scheduled after a 3-mile hike with SWMBO in Ashland, Mass. Advertised as a"vintage car guy" sale, there was lots that had sold by the time we got there in day 2, including a 69 Didge Charger project that sold for $22k the day before. I picked through the detritus and made a small pile. Despite the piles of junk laying around still, the seller didn't budge from his first number of $20 so I went back and found a few more items to sweeten the pot for me.

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Four 1973-4 Chevy 14" hubcaps
Plastic stretch wrap for packaging
Lobster 12" adjustable wrench
Elmer's wood glue-- from 2007 but still flowing!
Permanent blue threadlock
Straitline rolling tape measure
3 German-made masonry bits, unused
Wite strippers from the "General Cement Manyfacturing Corp.

The OEM for strippers seemed unusual for the tool so I looked them up. They were named for their first product, a row of cement (glue) used in the manufacture and repair of photographs and to repair speaker cones. They eventually grew into a broad product line electronics manufacturer.

 

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I missed posting these from yesterday:
A PS i'm hoping wil do for light Nickle plating 18V 2A capacity - and an Aircraft radio receiver C band? Research needed...

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The Loran C system was shut down in 2010. There is talk of reviving it with new, solid state, digital transmitters and a modification to enhance accuracy, but nothing has been done yet. From the sound of it, old receivers may still work on the new system if it is started back up, but with the original accuracy.
 

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From a couple different stops.
-Makita right angle drill.
-Oakland Motorcycle Club mug and sticker. My 50cc moped doesn’t qualify me for this club although it is plenty loud enough.
-unbranded USA offset open end 7/16” x 9/16” wrench. Decided to start collecting these after trying some vintage Blackhawk Wedg-Head wrenches and liking them.
-Scherr-Tumico slide calipers
-Snap On 1/2” deep socket with a retaining spring to hold a nut
-Proto 10mm long and 7/16” hex bit sockets
-Simplex soft face hammer
-Icon mini locking flex bit ratchet kit. Have one of these at work I really like, glad to have another one for home now.
-Two slotted screwdrivers: Craftsman Professional stubby with a full size handle, and an orange Williams USA with an extra long shaft.

The Snap On socket’s retaining clip:

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Offset open ends on the unbranded DOE wrench:
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Here is my publishable haul from another Sunday Estate Sale. Guy advertised tools, all that was left was a 1/2" HoleShooter (post Nov 1996) with a polishing buff (from cleaning things for sale), and a worm drive Skilsaw (I didn't need another, so didn't look closely), also grabbed a wireless charging pad for the phones, and a ceramic pot (not shown)

Edit: took it to garage to take the buff off, and the chuck key was a bear to turn past 120 degrees. Add a bit of oil, Force past that, was ok for another 120. Finally get it almost all the way open, and it spins freely. The chuck lock left hand screw was several turns loose. Tighten it up, holding the chuck with the key, all is good. Into the drawer it goes.

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So I've been observing as my experience with ammo cans are the common style (still in use I think) with the "Snap latch to open/close" latches, and the older ones that that had a soft cam for the latch, which I've come to prefer.

I only got this one as it may be useful for a small tool or parts box, but without a gasket like the others I had assumed it was not an ammo can at all. Now I find it is and I left another there... (rattle can paint job...) I'll see if it is there next month...

So making sure I have this right for the 50's:

M17 this one with no gasket; generally no hanging bails, simple equipment box latch and side hinge
M3 earlier aluminum version:
M2 the "current" style; gaskets and snap latches
M?? - what is the "soft cam" latch, with gasket?

I assume the 30 cal size boxes were similar? The only 2 O know of are the "Soft cam" version adn the "Snap latch" version?


Your youtuber is not the only one who thinks the M17 was only made for a short while in 1942. They are prized in the community for being so scarce

The Loran C system was shut down in 2010
Oh well at least it didn't cost me anything!
 
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Another **** for Provincial! Wandered up to the flea market for a bit today and managed to spend more money than I planned on, there were quite a few tool vendors out.

Turned out to be a Craftsman day, was pretty excited about the early combo set in what I believe is the original box. If anyone has the smaller sizes of these combos (9/16, 1/2, 7/16) let me know and I'd be happy to buy or trade for them! Also picked up a BE set in a very crusty box from the same vendor. $12

The other 1/4" box at bottom right has some =v= sockets but I mostly just paid the 5 bucks for the box which is in pretty nice shape.
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I'm in the next two pics for $20, mostly because I can't help myself from overpaying for big Plomb sockets that I have no use for...

Ball peen is a Plumb, Proto LA DBE, and a bunch of Mac stuff that I'm hoping cleans up ok.
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HInsdale DBE, Bluepoint DOE and combo, Par X extension, Billings combo, and a Long C tappet. The obstruction DBE is a Merit, hoping someone can tell me what the weird little KR? Wilson thing is. Then there's the smallest OTC DBE I've run into so far, a Proto phillips, the Plomb sockets (2 of which are 3/4" drive) along with a few other random sockets and a 1/2" drive plug. Finally a couple Bonney pieces at right.
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Nice find on the craftsman long c wrench box! Yes, that’s the original box. I might have some spare combos but I need to check. I have to see if my spares are different finishes or not. Those were made with chrome and non plated 👍
 

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Whitman & Barnes and Union drill stands from the farmers market this morning.

You ****!


I missed posting these from yesterday:

From a block sale: A cheap plastic box full of mostly Exacto knife handles and blades, and other sharp pointy tools, as well as Tweexers, Pentel pencil supplies, a German wood pencil sharpener, Etc: $2 all


BS1a-Box-exacto-tweezers-etc.jpg

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Two skillets, $2 each:

Square I have not ID'ed - Maybe after the crud is cleaned off - #3 on the bottom of the handle's root, single pure, with raised rips in the bottom.

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BS2b-Sq-Skillet.jpg

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Round is a #3 Lodge with the hest ring with notches at 3, 9, and 12 O'clock

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BS2e-rd-Skillet.jpg

Today was much cheaper than yesterday!

$5 YS - SO punch, 12-13 mm obstruction wrench, #1 Phillips, Park Chain breaker Craftsman ratchet wrench -

BEFORE:

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AFTER basci cleaning:

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YS but the just posred "free" for everything today, no one there:

Jumpers and double knofe switc: Guesing the cables are 6 ga?

Y2-Free-1-jumpers-an-switch.jpg

A PS i'm hoping wil do for light Nickle plating 18V 2A capacity - and an Aircraft radio receiver C band? Research needed...

Y2-Free-2-PS-Aircraft-Radio.jpg

NOS Cable cains, and 4 DVD Sci-fi movies.

Y2-Free-3-NOS-chains-Sci-Fi-DVDs.jpg


Porcelainware plates SS cup:

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3-D goggles? (With case not pictured) another research project, but will probably leave for my Gamer daughter to do:

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Tax book for my oldest daughter as she is looking at her own business.

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Aluminum Extrusion 3' - material as this stuff keeps comming up for possible projects,

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Last stop: $1 for all:

Browning belt tension tool, Goodell-prstt thread gauge Spark plug chaser,and a cow bell


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Wow, You ****!


Picked these 2 Suzuki 8hp outboards with a box of new parts and service manual for $150. Both run and have very minor issues.IMG_8255.jpegIMG_8256.jpeg

That's also pretty Sucky!


Mike
 

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Wife/dinner/other responsibilities are calling, but I had to take a few quick photos of today's haul. I have not had time to unpack the toolbox yet (the price was too good that I did not have to), but it is a SK Wayne box with what looks like Crescent 1/2" and 3/4"-drive socket set, 1/2" and 3/4"-drive Vlchek sockets, SK extensions and an older Diamond adjustable. Separately, I picked up:

Plomb Proto dual-marked Pebble #1232 1" combination wrench
Plomb Pebble 1130 9/16" x 5/8 DBE wrench (one I was missing)
Plomb Los Angeles 27 8B 17" chisel; 1 1/4" tip
Plomb Tool MFG Co. 5" cold chisel; 9/16" tip
C.E. Billings 4 1/4" bicycle wrench
Williams Superrench No. 4731B 7/8" x 13/16" DBE wrench
Williams Superrench No. 8033C 1" x 15/16" DBE wrench
Bonney No. 2894 7/8" x 15/16" DBE wrench
P&C N/84 7/8" x 15/16" DBE wrench
Blue Point OEX 30 15/16" combination wrench
Duro-Chrome 4276 ratchet; 3/4"-drive plug; 18" length

The tool-pick adrenaline is still going strong even before I finish unpacking - it will have to wait until tomorrow!
 

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Literally turned the corner from church and saw SALE! Fella said to make an offer on some tools looked like the guy was in a tight spot. Didn’t want to beat the guy up on a Sunday so I snagged a bunch of wrenches and a bag for $30, probably could have gone lower.

Dumped it out at home, it had 62+ wrenches and some other misc stuff.

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Literally turned the corner from church and saw SALE! Fella said to make an offer on some tools looked like the guy was in a tight spot. Didn’t want to beat the guy up on a Sunday so I snagged a bunch of wrenches and a bag for $30, probably could have gone lower.

Dumped it out at home, it had 62+ wrenches and some other misc stuff.

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This is why you don't leave a bag or box of tools in the open bed of the pick-up.
 
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