johnre
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Two - Dewalt 20 V and Porter-Cable 18 V. The latter will be phased out when the battery packs go again; they have already have been replaced once with generic Chinese-built replacement packs.
I guess it depends on how you value logistics ease versus optimal tool. For some using the M12 fuel surge impact driver to avoid having to add a third battery would make sense. But for you, you really like that stick driver I guess enough to justify adding a third battery type.Three. M18, M12, and I have one Makita 7.2 volt stick driver. Unfortunately, Milwaukee or anyone else has a stick driver that comes anywhere near comparison with the Makita.
Yes, I had 4- 18v DeWalt batteries. Now, I`m down to one battery. Once that battery is no good, I will retire the drill I guess.
I guess it depends on how you value logistics ease versus optimal tool. For some using the M12 fuel surge impact driver to avoid having to add a third battery would make sense. But for you, you really like that stick driver I guess enough to justify adding a third battery type.
I don't have the M12 Surge, but I do have the M18 Surge as well as two M18 Fuel impacts. I'm not impressed by the Surge in any aspect other than how much quieter it is. I bought it when I was replacing my deck surface boards (900+- sq ft of cedar run at a 45° angle with my house and it was a blessing even if it's no faster than a regular impact. I would guess that it would be the same thing with the M12's, I have three M12 Fuel standard impacts, but for what I do, wouldn't consider the Surge as anything near the top of the list.Curious what benefits are compared to a M12 fuel surge impact, since it's one of Milwaukees most popular M12 tools. Is it just space, the makita packs smaller?
I love multi tools. I use it for everything. The 10 year old Ryobi MT that came in one of those Home Depot bundles has been abused, left in the rain, snow, fell from a roof...you name it. Still going strong. The batteries are petering out. I find the Milwaukee Shockwave blades will cut thru anything.Have 2 -- Ryobi and Makita -- both 18v.
Having 2 platforms is a huge advantage. You can afford more tools that way if you buy the less crucial ones in the cheaper brand. I never understood the passionate desperation to stay in one brand. Sure it's a small financial hit to pick up a tool combo kit that comes with a battery/charger. Bare tools are so cheap many don't wanna fork over an extra $50 or so for a tool that comes with the battery/charger.
That's why it's hard to sell bare tools. I've had brand new Ryobi drills, jobsite radios, etc -- bare, listed for $30 (when the new bare tool goes for $100-$120 in stores). And I got offers for $10-$15. Rationale being it's useless without a battery/charger. BS. Go and get you a $89 Ryobi drill/battery/charger kit.
And if you are doing a project you can have an additional set of drills (drill and driver) to hand an assistant to use to speed a project along. Makita drill with a drill bit and a Makita impact driver with a torx bit PLUS a Ryobi drill with a drill bit and a Ryobi Impact driver with a torx bit. Equals fast.
My pro carpenter cousin came for a visit to my mom's house one weekend. No tools with him. He said "hey let's make your mom a new deck". Off to the local lumberyard for lumber and materials. I defaulted to the Ryobi and let him use the Makita, as he was the head guy on the job. I am an OK carpenter but rightfully stepped down to laborer.
One of the most useful power tools to have, that many don't have, is the oscillating multi-tool. Mine is in the Ryobi system, and it has paid for itself 20 times over (time and money). Just on my own projects and paid projects for others or helping mates.
Buy a couple of Dewalt 20 volt batteries, ie a starter kit with a charger, plus the adapter from Dewalt and you’ll be set for years. Not as nice as a new drill, but it works.Yes, I had 4- 18v DeWalt batteries. Now, I`m down to one battery. Once that battery is no good, I will retire the drill I guess.