I have a 10 x 16 shed constructed with Simpson brackets (it was a kit). It has 2x8 PT floor framing and 3/4 PT plywood floor. I remember it costing something like $3000 in materials when I built it 15 (?) years ago. A nice heavy duty shed. I'm moving and am trying to decide if I should disassemble it and take it with me. Since it is (mostly) screwed together, the only thing I would have to do is put new tar paper and roofing shingles at new location. I imagine the cost to build a new one would be at least double. The realtor says most people will expect a shed with the house (colonial, 2100 sq ft, 2 car garage on 0.8 acre). The time to build a new shed from scratch is also a factor. What would you do?
To move shed or not...
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moving is stressful in itself, and lots of work.
leave the shed there and build a new one.
and if you list it with out the shed, folks will probably write in the offer to leave it , I know I would .
leave the shed there and build a new one.
and if you list it with out the shed, folks will probably write in the offer to leave it , I know I would .
Renegade1LI
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I wouldn't, this will be a good time to build a new one and improve the design, maybe make it a little bigger. Doesn't seen worth the effort, but that is something only you can decide.
cvairwerks
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Huge difference in moving it a few miles vs 100 miles or more.....
wyb2
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Is it that most people will expect “a shed?” Or is the realtor saying that if the shed is there when they see the house, they will expect it to be there when they close on the house. Because I definitely agree with the second one.
I think you will have to list it as an exclusion, same as if you were planning to take kitchen appliances with you. Just luck of the draw if this bothers a potential buyer.
I think you will have to list it as an exclusion, same as if you were planning to take kitchen appliances with you. Just luck of the draw if this bothers a potential buyer.
manwithtools
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Well stated. If you mark it as excluded and the potential buyer want's it, that could become a bargaining chip for you or them. It might be a way to seal a deal if you then agreed to include it. Then the decision is made, build or buy a new one. In some cases, buying is cheaper than building them.
jack stand
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Call a "shed" company and ask for a contact # for the guy they use. Look on YouTube for shed movers or repo. It's amazingly simple with the right equipment that includes a $100k + trailer and truck with a "mule".
I'd at least price having it moved before exploring other options.
I'd at least price having it moved before exploring other options.
Skyman
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There's no way I'd move a shed to a new home. As others have noted, wouldn't you rather have a bigger one that doesn't have 15+ years of age on it? PT lumber doesn't last forever. Perhaps more importantly if you're thinking of moving it before you list the house for sale (?), what's it sitting on, and what will that space look like if it's gone? A rectangle of bare dirt? Concrete pad?
I hadn't thought about moving it assembled. Worth a look and then all I would have to do is prepare the new site. It's on concrete block and is dirt under. It's in a back corner between two large trees. I could just throw down some mulch. Realtor said most people will expect a shed. I'd list it as an exclusion if I can't move it out before listing the house. Otherwise, it could be a point of negotiation.
mike93lx
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Realtor is looking for the least trouble, not best deal for you. If you want the shed, move it.
Personally, I would leave it and build a new one, unless the move is nearby and it can be done assembled
DGersic
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Leave it and build a new one. Moving it is just going to be a lot of extra work and hassle.
bakmopar
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Selling a house, buying a house, and moving. You are going to have a lot to do and a lot of stress. Do not add one more thing, by moving or dismantling/rebuilding the shed.
Buy or build a new shed at the new house that better fits your needs and matches the house.
Buy or build a new shed at the new house that better fits your needs and matches the house.
Good, Mike....get a new larger shed. I have a 12x16 and wish it was bigger. I had a local shed place make it and do some minor customization.... like using exact same siding as on my house. I got this in 2018. Cost me 5k$. Put it on a concrete pad. I insulated and ran power to it. Can't imagine not having it now. Tractor in it and all lawn stuff in it really helps with the garages. It was amazing seeing them deliver it and precisely place it on my pad. I also tied it to the pad with simpson connectors. And closed off the bottom openings all around with pretty fine mesh rabbit wire to keep varmints out.
CJ7VFR
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Hopefully when you sold your house the shed that you want to take with you added some value to the sale of the house and you can use that money to build a new shed.
I agree with most of the others in the camp of leave the shed where it is and just build a new one at your new place. The cost of having to move the old shed may be almost the same as just building or buying a new one.
Jim
I agree with most of the others in the camp of leave the shed where it is and just build a new one at your new place. The cost of having to move the old shed may be almost the same as just building or buying a new one.
Jim
mike93lx
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A shed won't add any value, especially not a small one
CJ7VFR
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It does around where I live. Not much mind you, but it does add value. My former next door neighbor sold his house 3 years ago, and one of the selling points was the 12x20 shed in the back yard. The new owners have three kids and they wanted a house that had a shed so they could put the kids bikes and other toys into it instead of the garage. It sold for almost $4000 more than other similar sized homes, with similar sized lots because of the shed that the others did not have.
Jim
mike93lx
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"around there" isn't special or different. Stuff like that may appeal to certain/most buyers, but I bet nothing was on the appraisal to account for it and if the shed was removed, I bet it wouldn't have sold for less. Especially in a market with limited inventory
My comment on value is regarding selling price, not value in the sense of what people may like or want
CJ7VFR
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It all depends on where you live ultimately.
In this case it was on the appraisal as it had to be due to its size. In the township where I live, any outbuilding that is larger than 100 square feet in size has to have a permit and a formal construction sheet submitted to the zoning board in order for it to be built. By having these items the outbuilding is automatically added to the deed for the property.
That is why most sheds around here are tiny 8x10 footers. I wanted a 10x16 built after we bought this place and I had to get a permit, the formal construction sheet as well as a special use variance in order to have it on my property due to impervious surface coverage percentages that also have to be adhered to.
The downside is that this adds to the overall property tax assessment as well. It does not add much, but it does add to the overall value of when it goes up for sale too, versus a similar property without a shed that size.
Jim
jmarkwolf
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Look at Amish pre-built sheds.
It'll add less value if any selling your house then it'll cost to replace it but 15 years old.. thsts usually when you'll really start looking at it to move it and see that something is rotted or needs to be fixed on it start going from there. Getting it moved on one piece is going to cost something too.
reader2580
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I was thinking the same thing. The two times I was looking for a house I had no expectations that any house I bought must have a shed. (Neither property had a shed at purchase time.)
If there is a shed on the property when a buyer makes an offer they will most often expect it goes with the house and that it will not be removed. Some sheds are rent to own and the shed may get sent back to the rental company unless the new property owner wants to pay it off in full, or make the payments.
Schurkey
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IF the shed adds enough value to the property, leave it.
IF the shed adds enough interest to potential buyers to make the sale more likely/faster, leave it.
IF the headache of moving it is excessive, leave it.
OTOH, I'd have trouble walking away from a shed in decent condition. My buddy can't walk away from a building in crappy condition.
IF the shed adds enough interest to potential buyers to make the sale more likely/faster, leave it.
IF the headache of moving it is excessive, leave it.
OTOH, I'd have trouble walking away from a shed in decent condition. My buddy can't walk away from a building in crappy condition.
mike93lx
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I dont mean just listing it on an appraisal, i'm talking about having a adjustment to the value because of a shed, or the lack of one. I'd be amazed if that was ever done on any small shed, regardless of permitting/tax status.
An increase in assessment or property taxes doesnt mean that it will increase the value of a home.
driftpin
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New shed, new home.
I had sited a new Hardi-Board, 3/4" PT plywood, vapor barrier, galvanized steel frame, OH roll-up door, side entrance door, floodlights, 1/2" solid steel, square stock burglar bars, and steel standing seam galvanized roof, 100 amp box w/underground service from the service panel on the house, on a concrete pad, impact-rated under So. Florida HVHZ (high-velocity hurricane zone) 180 mph gusts code-meeting building delivered and moved into position w/a crane.
The building is anchored to the slab w/hilti 5/8" tap-in pins w/hex nuts through the building's PT 2" x 8" footer plate. 120 & 240 V w/120 V every 4 ft. & 3 240 V 30 amp circuits.
Getting the house ready for sale, and the building stays. Don't ask what the HVHZ-rated building, the concrete slab, the electrical service and the placement cost. It has served us well.
Take ideas you want in a new structure, and put them into your new place. This was the largest shed/building which zoning allowed, and after installation of the impact side entry door and the electric/anchoring & inspection, I was ready to go.
I had sited a new Hardi-Board, 3/4" PT plywood, vapor barrier, galvanized steel frame, OH roll-up door, side entrance door, floodlights, 1/2" solid steel, square stock burglar bars, and steel standing seam galvanized roof, 100 amp box w/underground service from the service panel on the house, on a concrete pad, impact-rated under So. Florida HVHZ (high-velocity hurricane zone) 180 mph gusts code-meeting building delivered and moved into position w/a crane.
The building is anchored to the slab w/hilti 5/8" tap-in pins w/hex nuts through the building's PT 2" x 8" footer plate. 120 & 240 V w/120 V every 4 ft. & 3 240 V 30 amp circuits.
Getting the house ready for sale, and the building stays. Don't ask what the HVHZ-rated building, the concrete slab, the electrical service and the placement cost. It has served us well.
Take ideas you want in a new structure, and put them into your new place. This was the largest shed/building which zoning allowed, and after installation of the impact side entry door and the electric/anchoring & inspection, I was ready to go.
nadogail
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Whenever moving anything is being considered a “Cost versus benefit” study should be conducted
CJ7VFR
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Perhaps a few details of where I live will help you to understand what I am talking about when I said yes, having a shed does add to the property both in the assessed value and the actual value as witnessed by the selling price of homes near me with one versus without one.
Most of the homes in my township were built between 1950 and 1965, are two story dwellings that are approximately 2000 sqft and sit on 3/4 acre lots. My town is 2 square miles in area and there are no more empty lots here, and no homes were built after 1985. So any homes with things like central air conditioning, finished basements and upgraded kitchens and bathrooms sell for more because those things always add not only to the assessed value but to the actual value of a property. But what also makes them have higher assessed values and actual values is having a patio, deck, paved driveway and yes even a shed/outbuilding.
Why do the last 4 items I mentioned above add both assessed and actual value? Because the area that I live in is zoned what is called "VRC", which stands for Very Restricted Construction. This not only restricts how large a home can be, but more specifically how much ground that can be covered with impervious surfaces. That is due to wanting to keep a more rural aspect to the area. Currently the percentage of impervious surface that can be covered on any property is 15 percent, which was lowered from the original 25 percent back in 1985 when the last home was built here.
Because things like patios, decks, paved driveways and sheds/outbuildings all add to the impervious surface percentage, any home in this area with those items already on the property are more in demand than the homes without them because all the properties are at or above the 15 percent coverage allowed.
Most buyers looking for a home want some, or even all of those things and they will pay more for the homes that have them than a home that does not, especially if the potential buyers are told they will never be able to have those things due to the property already being at or above the 15 percent coverage.
Even a lowly wooden shed now adds to both the assessed and overall value of a property because most of the homes here don't have one and can't put one in even if they wanted to. I was able to put in my shed with a special use variance because my property was just under the allotted impervious surface percentage. So I was lucky that I could put in my 10x16 shed, as that was the largest I could build to remain just at the 15 percentage coverage.
That is why I said to you before that it all depends on where you live as to whether or not something like a shed can add not only assessed value, but actual value to your property. As for where I live it definitely does.
Jim