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gilbo

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You guessed correctly. I’ve been spraying everything with PB Blaster while I wait for the parts.

I’m sure the DCF892 is great but I’d rather have $200 back. Should have just bought it in the first place.
Lose the battle, win the war. Think about the time you save, zipping thing on and off, without MF'ing it.
 

Nortonscustom

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New set of screwdrivers for home shop. Same ones I've been using for years at work.

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4 way screwdriver for the camper and a micro driver set for work.

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Decided to take a chance on a SK LP90. Ordered directly from SK, received it in 2 days. It's really nice, zero complaints so far. Will see how it holds up over time.

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Eric O got me again. Saw him using a scope like this in a recent video and had to have one. Found one on Ebay for 110 shipped but it ended up only articulating one way so that's getting returned.
Then Amazon's algorithm offered me a lightning deal at $130 new and I couldn't say no.

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I wish mine articulated.
 

ETJ

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Snap-on punch set (missing two):

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1/4" hex set (I needed the 2, 2.5 and 3)

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More long double box wrenches. Got the XDHFM810, 1516 and 2224 earlier. Now I only need 2122 (and maybe 67)

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and last and least I got used T27 to fill my set

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Got tired of marking the oil filter with chain. Unior strap wrench,it has rubber over the canvas so i doubt it will slip. $10
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Chain marks on the filter

I am not intending to be snarky here, but you should not need to get oil filters very tight. Lube the rubber seal mating surface (just dab some oil on it with your finger) and a brisk hand tighten should be sufficient. Many have a tendency to severely over tighten this type of stuff. When you do so, you actually risk damaging the rubber seal. Oil lubrication is just a low pressure splash. It is not like a high pressure cylinder head seal. A lot of torque is not appropriate for the oil filter seal. Sometimes filters can get more locked on after many heat and cool cycles over time ... even when they are not put on super tight. But you can use anything that you want to take them off since they will be trashed/recycled. So chains, belts, special sockets, large pliers are all ok to remove. Even punching through the body with a punch or chisel to lever off if in an awkward position is ok (though when you do that it better come off!).
 
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four.cycle

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but you should not need to get oil filters to tight.
I have yet to have need of an "oil filter wrench". I have sold (literally) thousands of them - anywhere from 99 cents up to well over $20 bucks for real fancy ones.
Leather belt works if they're stuck tight. Otherwise, just rubber gloves.
Can't understand why people think they need to be tightened down so much - it's an oil filter, not a head bolt!
 

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I have yet to have need of an "oil filter wrench". I have sold (literally) thousands of them - anywhere from 99 cents up to well over $20 bucks for real fancy ones.
Leather belt works if they're stuck tight. Otherwise, just rubber gloves.
Can't understand why people think they need to be tightened down so much - it's an oil filter, not a head bolt!
1963 Tbird... owner was a machinist with a lot of tools.

Took me 45 minutes to CHISEL the Oil Filter off. Never found the gasket... figure it was compressed into oblivion. And the casing was compressed at the base. How he didn't strip the threads amazed me.
 

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I have yet to have need of an "oil filter wrench". I have sold (literally) thousands of them - anywhere from 99 cents up to well over $20 bucks for real fancy ones.
Leather belt works if they're stuck tight. Otherwise, just rubber gloves.
Can't understand why people think they need to be tightened down so much - it's an oil filter, not a head bolt!
I never needed an oil filter socket until I had to do an oil on my ex's Hyundai i10. There was no space for my hands to loosen it, nor was there space for anything else but a socket and barley any space to hand tighten, no room around it and it didn't protrude out enough either. Hated that car amd was happy it met it's demise when I rolled it.
My 1998 Hyundai accent had plenty space where the filter would both loosen and tighten by hand.
 

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I have yet to have need of an "oil filter wrench". I have sold (literally) thousands of them - anywhere from 99 cents up to well over $20 bucks for real fancy ones.
Leather belt works if they're stuck tight. Otherwise, just rubber gloves.
Can't understand why people think they need to be tightened down so much - it's an oil filter, not a head bolt!

How many oil changes have you done? I've done hundreds on all types and sizes of vehicles. A good portion of those needed an oil filter wrench to remove thanks to whatever gorilla installed it last... Rather it be a cup style, 3 or 4 leg claw, a band clamp style, the plier's style or a strap wrench. Hell, I've even done the "stab it with a screwdriver and twist it off" method at least once or twice.
 

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lund

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1963 Tbird... owner was a machinist with a lot of tools.

Took me 45 minutes to CHISEL the Oil Filter off. Never found the gasket... figure it was compressed into oblivion. And the casing was compressed at the base. How he didn't strip the threads amazed me.
Yup. No need for the elaborate wrenches to put a filter on and take off with anything you want.

People need to keep in mind that oil lube is just splashed in a basin. It is not a high pressure seal. Putting too much torque on the seal is counterproductive. It risks stripping the threads and turning a small job into a real pain to fix if access is restricted.

It is amazing to me that people so frequently find a way to complicate oil filters and drain plugs. No need to torque like crazy and plenty of reasons to use the minimal torque needed ...
 
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four.cycle

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How many oil changes have you done?
Oh... probably at least two or three.
I never worked in a shop. Never professed to be a "mechanic".
Oil changes were only my own vehicles, or vehicles owned by girls.
More than two or three, now that I think of it.

Listened to a guy tell me a story one day on the counter about the "stab it with a screwdriver and twist it off" method - the canister came right off, but the seam failed where the canister was attached to the base plate, leaving the base plate of the filter firmly attached to the oil filter mounting pad, which apparently required some extra-tricky work with a punch and chisel to remove.

Weird, huh?
Yeah... never used one. Had a whole store full of them to choose from, too - could have used any number of different types if I'd wanted.
 

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Oh... probably at least two or three.
I never worked in a shop. Never professed to be a "mechanic".
Oil changes were only my own vehicles, or vehicles owned by girls.
More than two or three, now that I think of it.

Listened to a guy tell me a story one day on the counter about the "stab it with a screwdriver and twist it off" method - the canister came right off, but the seam failed where the canister was attached to the base plate, leaving the base plate of the filter firmly attached to the oil filter mounting pad, which apparently required some extra-tricky work with a punch and chisel to remove.

Weird, huh?
Yeah... never used one. Had a whole store full of them to choose from, too - could have used any number of different types if I'd wanted.

I sense sarcasm.

I was only saying if you've never needed a filter wrench, you haven't done enough oil changes... that, or you're the luckiest guy in the world. I don't know your background and I never claimed to.

Anyway... Oil filters are actually not very thick; they crush and pierce easily. I could absolutely see a stuck filter sheering into 2 or more pieces. Thankfully never experienced that as it sounds like an absolute nightmare. For the record, I definitely don't suggest the screwdriver method, it's one of those last-ditch efforts before you have to resort to removing (and maybe replacing) the oil filter housing.
 
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Garagejournal.com is a costly habit... this goes nicely with the world's greatest mechanical pencil and the dinosaur themed Japanese pliers and two types of mini pry bars. Lol
I'd argue that appears to be a specialty pencil. The greatest traditional mechanical pencil is the Uni KURU TOGA.
 
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I sense sarcasm.
No, no... not at all.
I literally grew up in a parts store. Started running a chain of parts stores and a warehouse right out of high school. We carried "oil filter wrench" in: Hollywood, Zomax, Medallion, Indestro, Wilmar, and any other brand any salesman brought through the door if it looked like it would sell - and they all sold. (Okay, well... not the 2557 Indestro - that thing was a White Elephant.)
My first work on a retail counter was in Yelm, a tiny farming community at the time. Some old boy mentioned the thing about using his belt, so I tried it. Worked fine. Just didn't have any need for a "wrench", as we were told to NOT over-tighten them - says so right on the box the filter comes in: something along the lines of "one half-turn past SNUG", and that always felt more than tight enough.

To be fair: 90% of the oil filter wrenches we sold were just **** - a bent piece of pot-metal with a couple bands cut out of old beer cans I think. We got a LOT of them back.
Didn't do ANY good to try to bring in anything decent (like PLEWS, which we bought factory direct) because the customers wouldn't pay more than three or four bucks for one. Ergo: we sold the cheapies to our cheapie customers. If they broke, they got a new one.

Funny this would come up... I've got one here in a box of **** I bought two weeks ago.
I should have sent it to some unsuspecting GJ member this morning along with that other junk. ;)
 

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unny this would come up... I've got one here in a box of **** I bought two weeks ago.
I should have sent it to some unsuspecting GJ member this morning along with that other junk. ;)
You coulda sent him an oil can stab spout, plenty of use for one-a those these days. The one I liked the most was the one built into a funnel as that seemed to not-ever leak one drop of oil wherever the tip of the funnel needed to go.
 

four.cycle

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You coulda sent him an oil can stab spout, plenty of use for one-a those these days.
GAH!
Honestly, I had completely wiped those out of my memory until you just mentioned it.
"Got an oil spout I can use?"
You'd hand the guy the thing, and one of two things would happen:
He'd pour oil all over his valve covers, exhaust manifold, and the parking lot and bring it back in dripping oil all over the place
or
He'd go out the door and you'd never see him again.

Sold them for THIRTY NINE CENTS on a sale one time. (Not sure who those came from - probably Wilmar or Zomax.) At least 90% of them leaked horribly - you'd get oil all over everything. Another useless device I never owned a copy of - just punch a hole with a church key and find a damn funnel - it ain't rocket science.
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GAH!
Honestly, I had completely wiped those out of my memory until you just mentioned it.
"Got an oil spout I can use?"
You'd hand the guy the thing, and one of two things would happen:
He'd pour oil all over his valve covers, exhaust manifold, and the parking lot and bring it back in dripping oil all over the place
or
He'd go out the door and you'd never see him again.

Sold them for THIRTY NINE CENTS on a sale one time. (Not sure who those came from - probably Wilmar or Zomax.) At least 90% of them leaked horribly - you'd get oil all over everything. Another useless device I never owned a copy of - just punch a hole with a church key and find a damn funnel - it ain't rocket science.
:lol:

This^^^^^^

Or you would punch the spout in the can, and the cardboard can would fold in the middle, sending oil everywhere.
And I initially laughed at plastic quart containers with a spout? Was wrong on that idea too..
 

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A quick search brings up at least four different "Oil Filter Wrench" threads, to say nothing about the countless posts in random threads like this one...

I fully agree that oil filters should ONLY be installed by hand (without any sort of tool), assuming access allows your hand/arm in there...

Removal can be a completely different story. I used to use a metal-band-style wrench.

Somewhere along the line, I had a filter that wouldn't come off with that, so I resorted to punching a screwdriver through it. Managed to get it off (eventually), but only after making a huge oily mess, and shredding the filter into pieces in the LONG process of getting it off.

After that, I used a (rubber) strap wrench for many years. Probably closest to the leather belt idea. Works great most of the time, unless there's no access to turn the handle.

This weird looking thing (don't recall when / where I got it) is my current favorite. Again, if access allows...

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This^^^^^^

Or you would punch the spout in the can, and the cardboard can would fold in the middle, sending oil everywhere.
And I initially laughed at plastic quart containers with a spout? Was wrong on that idea too..

I'd also forgotten about the stab-spouts! IIRC, Dad had one that worked pretty well, but I think he always used a filter with it.

I hate the plastic quart bottles. I can't use those without spilling at least a few drops, sometimes a LOT more. Some of the engines I've had don't allow for the bottle to be used correctly, because there isn't room to approach the oil fill inlet with the bottle vertical enough to keep the oil inside. I just default to always using a funnel.

Mike
 

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Pica automatic pencil and 2.8mm refills. Made in Germany. Bought them at Amazon for $19.

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Pica Dry - Professional construction marker for craftsmen - Pica Marker

Garagejournal.com is a costly habit... this goes nicely with the world's greatest mechanical pencil and the dinosaur themed Japanese pliers and two types of mini pry bars. Lol

Received my Pica pencil today.

Am I missing something? It doesn’t seem to operate.

It came preloaded with graphite. (See videos - one I’m trying to zoom in on the tip at the base, and you can see I’m unable to add more graphite).

But when I click on the cap mechanism nothing happens. The tip of the graphite doesn’t move.

Also if I don’t put the cap on in a certain orientation it loses its “clicking motion” and just gets jammed into the body. (Have to forcefully remove it)


 

ararat

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Received my Pica pencil today.

Am I missing something? It doesn’t seem to operate.

It came preloaded with graphite. (See videos - one I’m trying to zoom in on the tip at the base, and you can see I’m unable to add more graphite).

But when I click on the cap mechanism nothing happens. The tip of the graphite doesn’t move.

Also if I don’t put the cap on in a certain orientation it loses its “clicking motion” and just gets jammed into the body. (Have to forcefully remove it)


Take the green part off. I think that is the cap/sharpener
 

Madjik Man

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Take the green part off. I think that is the cap/sharpener

Sorry forgot to mention that.

I did remove the pencil and tried clicking the graphite out but it didn't move either. I even broke the tip off of the graphite to see if there was a limiter preventing it from dispensing but it didn't move after that either.
 

ararat

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Sorry forgot to mention that.

I did remove the pencil and tried clicking the graphite out but it didn't move either. I even broke the tip off of the graphite to see if there was a limiter preventing it from dispensing but it didn't move after that either.
Just tried mine and it works fine. Seems pretty nice. It made a nice line across a rough piece of lumber.
 
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