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I just got a text about doing that same job from a friend. Saw that table Mike got and thought it might be nice for that. We used to use the trans jack and a second set of hands to drop the subframes in the shop, I no longer have that second set of hands at the house so the table would come in handy.

This is the main reason I wanted something better than setting it down on jackstands or a makeshift table/cart. I no longer have my helper every day and I'm having to figure out how to do things by myself again. I got so used to having that extra set of hands for the past 20+ years that I've taken some jobs for granted.
 
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That is one nice looking lift table Mike. Anything to make jobs easier as we get older. My wife has worked as manager at a factory and now for a company that builds private jets so she is always on me about safety first when she sees me work construction and on cars doing sketchy stuff. I use that to my advantage many times for tool purchases. Like when I was drilling a 4" hole for bath vent with my m18 because I didn't want to drag out extension cord for hole hawg and she saw it catch and bind. I told her I have the proper drill but didn't want to drag the cord up the ladder she shook her head. Was easy to justify the new m18 hole hawg that showed up a few days later to her. Not sure she totally agreed with me when I said "but you told me to use the right tool so I bought the right tool". After googling your table not sure I could use that same line for that much.

When they closed down her plant back in Wisco she called me on her last day and asked if there was anything I wanted from there. I had worked 5 years there but left many years before. I got a nice metal workbench with wood top, air hose reels, and a few other things. One of them was a hand crank lift table that she had asked me for help picking out to make one of the jobs there safer. Not anywhere close to your lift table but sure comes in handy for some things, https://www.globalindustrial.com/p/...WNAzUnFVRYpilDfmGC5EzdVduAM6Z23RoCh0gQAvD_BwE. Never even thought to use it for stuff like yours is made for but may have to look into it. I bought a motorcycle/atv jack for doing fuel tanks and never even thought to use the table. Although with only having jack stands and not a lift I think the table would be too high to slide under. So guess I need to work on a lift first.

Looking forward to seeing a post with it in action soon!
 

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Thanks Anders. It was a spendy as hell purchase, but I think it will pay for itself within a few jobs, at least that is the hope anyways.
I'm well aware Mike, imagine what it would cost shipped to Sweden. The Dane in California (AGA is owned and operated by a Dane), does some neat bits and bobs. I want to add one, but the European importer who is based in Denmark aren't exactly smooth to deal with. But I do want one of these tables. So I will probably have to go on a roadtrip.... ;-)
 
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I have been so busy lately that the Camaro has suffered from neglect.

I have wiped it down and dusted it a few times before drives but we really haven't had time to drive it much this summer, let alone wash it. Last weekend the wife and I headed up to a little town called Midway about 80 miles east of us to help with a fund raiser golf tournament and we got caught in rain in the car, plus we thinned the bug population. I wanted to get the bugs off when we got home but got too busy in the shop, so last night I committed to cleaning the car.

Gave her a thorough wash job, chamois'd dry.
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Then pulled it back into the shop and tackled the interior with a vacuum job and wiped the interior down as well as all door jambs, trunk and underhood.
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I sure love this color. I was hesitant about another red car when we bought it but I am sure glad we did. It sure pops in the sun.
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Afterwards I put the trickle charger back on as well as the cover back on as it will be a couple weeks before we are able to drive her again.
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After finishing up cleaning the car and before the wife arrived home from work, I topped off the water in the coach batteries and then thought I'd knock out a couple of adapters for the new AGA Tools lift table. I have a couple of axle jobs in the near future and thought I'd prepare myself for them by making a couple of adapters to cradle the axles for lowering. I built a fixture for the transmission jack but didn't want to scrap that so I came up with a quick plan to make a couple adapters that would thread into the pedestals that came with the AGA Tools lift table.

I dug through my scrap and found a piece of 4" diameter thick walled tube and cut a chunk off at 3" in length.
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I then grabbed some 3/4"-10 all thread from the supply.
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The vertical bandsaw made quick work of cutting the tubing in half.
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Then a quick trip to the disc/belt sander to round the corners and blend them into the outer diameter. I also cut the threaded rod into 6' lengths.
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I just grabbed the squirt gun for welding the rods to the tubing halves. I should have cleaned some of the zinc coating off before welding.
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Then ran them through the wire wheel to clean them up a bit.
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And threaded one into a pedestal as a test fit.
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I think those will work perfectly and be a nice accessory for the AGA Tools lift table for raising and lowering solid axles from vehicles.

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Nice work on the axle cradles! I didn't know something like that lift table existed, but it makes perfect sense to reverse the process used to assemble the car in the first place vs. trying to take everything out the top.

Thanks Graham. I have been eyeing this particular table for a couple of years now, just been dreading spending the money on it. I have waffled back and forth on some cheaper ones, and even some more expensive one for that matter, but I kept coming back to the design and layout of this one. My local NAPA rep. tried talking me into the OTC one as that is what they are a dealer for. He even arranged with a couple of local shops for me to go and check the OTC ones out in operation. However, after seeing the OTC one in use as well as watching some videos and reading through the literature, I couldn't wrap my head around spending that kind of money and it states right in the literature to use "wood as cribbing to take up the variances" that turned me off in a heartbeat. Seriously, spending that kind of money and you're supposed to grab some chunks of wood to block up the height differences? :headscrat I just kept going back to the AGA Tools lift table that came with the proper adapters and pedestals to engage with the factory points on the K-members or castings I felt like it was a much better choice. I even briefly thought about purchasing a similar table and making my own adapters and configure it similar to the AGA table, but I have so much work promised out that I didn't see myself taking a couple of months to build one.


Unfortunately, like most of my purchases, now I'm having buyer's remorse. I mulled it over in my head quite a lot but I still second guess most of my purchases and wonder if I made the right decision. I'm sure the first time I use it I will be fine. :unsure:
 

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Unfortunately, like most of my purchases, now I'm having buyer's remorse. I mulled it over in my head quite a lot but I still second guess most of my purchases and wonder if I made the right decision. I'm sure the first time I use it I will be fine. :unsure:
Mike, I'm reminded of a joke I told about my youngest at dinner the other night - "You know how copper wire is made? That's Kylie stretching a penny!!"
I know you're not THAT guy, and I'm also confident the table will prove out in spades! Can't wait to see the projects you'll tackle with it - I'm sure you'll be singing its praises.
 
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Mike, I'm reminded of a joke I told about my youngest at dinner the other night - "You know how copper wire is made? That's Kylie stretching a penny!!"
I know you're not THAT guy, and I'm also confident the table will prove out in spades! Can't wait to see the projects you'll tackle with it - I'm sure you'll be singing its praises.

Thanks Gary. I know I'm not what one would call "cheap" or "tight", but I like to think of myself as frugal and not wasteful. I'm someone who would rather spend money on quality vs. quantity and like to hold on to things for a long, long time if not forever. Buy once, cry once comes to mind.

I'm sure the first time I use the table my buyer's remorse will subside, at least I hope it does.

My wife on the other hand is AWESOME. She really didn't even hesitate when I suggested purchasing it several weeks ago, although if truth be told, maybe I was hoping she'd talk me out of it. :rolleyes: She merely said "if you need it, you need it". I sure love that woman and wonder why on earth she is so good to me.
 

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Thanks Graham. I have been eyeing this particular table for a couple of years now, just been dreading spending the money on it. I have waffled back and forth on some cheaper ones, and even some more expensive one for that matter, but I kept coming back to the design and layout of this one. My local NAPA rep. tried talking me into the OTC one as that is what they are a dealer for. He even arranged with a couple of local shops for me to go and check the OTC ones out in operation. However, after seeing the OTC one in use as well as watching some videos and reading through the literature, I couldn't wrap my head around spending that kind of money and it states right in the literature to use "wood as cribbing to take up the variances" that turned me off in a heartbeat. Seriously, spending that kind of money and you're supposed to grab some chunks of wood to block up the height differences? :headscrat I just kept going back to the AGA Tools lift table that came with the proper adapters and pedestals to engage with the factory points on the K-members or castings I felt like it was a much better choice. I even briefly thought about purchasing a similar table and making my own adapters and configure it similar to the AGA table, but I have so much work promised out that I didn't see myself taking a couple of months to build one.


Unfortunately, like most of my purchases, now I'm having buyer's remorse. I mulled it over in my head quite a lot but I still second guess most of my purchases and wonder if I made the right decision. I'm sure the first time I use it I will be fine. :unsure:
You sure did the right thing scoring one of these beauts.
 

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My wife on the other hand is AWESOME. She really didn't even hesitate when I suggested purchasing it several weeks ago, although if truth be told, maybe I was hoping she'd talk me out of it. :rolleyes: She merely said "if you need it, you need it". I sure love that woman and wonder why on earth she is so good to me.

Mike, I apparently married her clone. Best decision I ever made. 👍
 

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Mike the instant you use it for what you bought it for will be the instant you don't regret buying it. As you already know these babies are heavy unloaded and putting several hundreds of pound on them doesn't change anything other it’s a little harder to push. That larger platform is super stable. Even though the table I shared is rated for 700lbs, I’ll admit it’s a bit sketchy with that load at that height 😁. My big boy, it’s like it’s not even there.
 
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Mike, an alternate way to look at it is what is reducing the wear and tear on your body, or the possibility of getting hurt, worth? Having that table gives you the confidence to do something on your own and minimizes the chance of getting hurt, it’s hard to put a price on that.

Not being political, but if your insurance is anything like mine, the cost of your table is probably much less than the yearly max out pocket cost of you were to get hurt.
 
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Mike the instant you use it for what you bought it for will be the instant you don't regret buying it. As you already know these babies are heavy unloaded and putting several hundreds of pound on them doesn't change anything other it’s a little harder to push. That larger platform is super stable. Even though the table I shared is rated for 700lbs, I’ll admit it’s a bit sketchy with that load at that height 😁. My big boy, it’s like it’s not even there.

Thanks Cam. That is what I was thinking, the first time I use it my buyer's remorse will probably disappear.


Mike, an alternate way to look at it is what is reducing the wear and tear on your body, or the possibility of getting hurt, worth? Having that table gives you the confidence to do something on your own and minimizes the chance of getting hurt, it’s hard to put a price on that.

Not being political, but if your insurance is anything like mine, the cost of your table is probably much less than the yearly max out pocket cost of you were to get hurt.


Besides just being able to work without lying on my back, safety, was at the forefront of my thinking. I don't consider myself old by any means, but as I have gotten "older", I don't feel like I heal as quickly and the fact of getting hurt and not being able to live up to my responsibilities scares me. Not being able to maintain my home or my vehicles and take care of my family when needed worries me, plus I don't want to be a burden. So yes, safety was a huge part of my decision. I told the wife I want to still be healthy enough and able to continue doing what I love even well into retirement so that means I can't do something stupid and get injured.
 
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Thanks Cam. That is what I was thinking, the first time I use it my buyer's remorse will probably disappear.





Besides just being able to work without lying on my back, safety, was at the forefront of my thinking. I don't consider myself old by any means, but as I have gotten "older", I don't feel like I heal as quickly and the fact of getting hurt and not being able to live up to my responsibilities scares me. Not being able to maintain my home or my vehicles and take care of my family when needed worries me, plus I don't want to be a burden. So yes, safety was a huge part of my decision. I told the wife I want to still be healthy enough and able to continue doing what I love even well into retirement so that means I can't do something stupid and get injured.

Good call, Mike. You don't want your You Tube wrenching videos to be featured on "Fail Army"🤣
 
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I arrived home last night to find a package that I've been waiting for, a new pulley for the 33 year old Snapper 21" walk-behind mower.

Last couple of times I mowed the lawn I heard a weird noise and then saw the idler pulley that looked like it was about to head south. I ordered a pulley and it showed up yesterday just as I was getting ready to trim, edge and mow the lawns.

I figured I'd try out the new lift table, although not exactly what I bought it for. :rolleyes: However, I did use the Handy motorcycle lift that was in this exact place for the same repairs, just to get them up to a more comfortable working height rather than crawling around on the shop floor. The only downside to this lift table is the collapsed height is about 18 inches whereas the Handy lowered down to around 8".
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Here you can see the few balls that are remaining. Looks like I lost a few.
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New pulley.
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Old pulley removed and new one ready for installation.
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Completed and ready to use.
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Nice quick repair!

It's hard to believe how good that old Snapper looks -- it proves the value of keeping up with the maintenance.

Thank you and I fully agree about keeping up with proper maintenance. It's a bit dirty being the middle of the season but she looks pretty good after its late fall maintenance routine and pressure washing. She looks almost new afterwards when I put it away for the winter.
 
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The wife and I just returned from out annual Ouray, CO trip. This was our 18th year making this annual trip and this was the first time in about the past 15 of those years that we have made this trip alone. We have hosted rallies and gatherings for our RV'ing/Jeeping friends about 6 or 8 of those years also, but this year it was just the wife and I. I missed having our friends or our kids join us but it sure was a great trip just having my wife all to myself.

I was surprised at just how many breakdowns we witnessed on the trail this year. We generally see one or maybe two throughout the entire week in the area but we were seeing a couple a day this year. Not sure what changed other than if I've said it once, I've said it fifty times that wheeling in SW Colorado is the torture test for your vehicle. The very long steep grades and elevations in particular will test each and every system of the vehicle and even if everything is in perfect order, **** can still go wrong. The suspension being tests is only the beginning, but the engine's cooling system, transmission, transfer case, brakes and axles as well as basic things like tires with all of the sharp rocks on the shelf roads.

We witnessed several transfer case issues, several flat tires, an axle u-joint creating a knuckle failure and several overheating issues on a wide range of vehicles. We ended up stopping to help multiple people and I was hearing a common theme amongst the people who were having issues, many stated they heard a weird noise or thought something wasn't quite right when they aired down at the trailhead but figured it was nothing. That **** may fly in a lot of places when off-roading, but NOT in the San Juan Mountains as it will find the weak link and exploit it by hammering away at it.

There must have been a Toyota Land Cruiser club or forum meeting in the area because we saw multiple groups of about 6-12 Land Cruisers from all eras throughout the week. I would say we saw a total of about 60+ different Land Cruisers the week we were there. One afternoon as we dropped into Animas Forks, there was about 30 or so all lined up for photographs which was kind of cool.

As we arrived at our campground Saturday, we noticed two trailers hauling old models unloading. One was a rather clean FJ-40 and the other was an immaculate FJ-45 pickup, I'm guessing late 60's to maybe early 70's models. The FJ-40 had a few minor scratches and dings but the FJ-45 truck looked like it just rolled off the assembly line. No mods or anything visible, just stock and impressive. That is until it hit the trails. The FJ-40 we saw limping along the next day having overheating issues and the FJ-45 the third day lost his front output from the transfer case while going over Imogene Pass and had to be towed up and over nearly every obstacle. They asked me to tow it up one of the 12k plus foot passes but I declined as I was running 230-degrees on my own and would have definitely ran warmer than I like towing another 5k plus pounds up a long steep grade.


One couple from Texas driving a Jeep JKUR that we stopped to check on had his transfer case fail just above Animas Forks on the third day. With the full skids under his Jeep there was nothing I could really do to investigate without a lot of work disassembling things. So, in that instant we ended up giving him and his wife a tow down into Silverton where he was able to call for a rollback.



We were blessed with some great weather and we saw a LOT of animals as well as enjoyed some great food as many of our favorite local eating establishments. The weather was pretty normal this year with only a couple of days in the low 80's, the rest of the days were mid to upper 70's with one day not getting out of the 60's. We had a couple of thunderstorms roll through the area between a couple of days and the last night it rained all night, very heavy at times. It stopped in the morning long enough for us to disconnect the coach, pull the slides in, pull the coach forward and hook up the Jeep, then about 20-miles down the road the skies opened back up again. The rain continued much of the 400+ miles home so it made a mess of the coach and Jeep in tow.

Enjoy the pictures.

Coach pulled out of the shop and getting ready to connect the Jeep for our departure Friday afternoon. We drove to Green River, UT for a stopover the first night.
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The next day, Saturday, we arrived at our campground in Ouray and had a great site.
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Arriving later in the day on Saturday we didn't hit a trail but just did some sightseeing and ran across a large herd of elk. My wife simply said "I hope this is a sign of what we'll see this week." She was right.
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Not much in the form of snow from the 2023/2024 winter this year, but we did see a few smaller patches still remaining. Also, the waterfalls and streams were not flowing like normal. I guess they had a much lesser than normal year that we did up north here.
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Going up Corkscrew Gulch and up and over Hurricane Pass.
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As we passed Animas Forks heading south into Silverton we took a side trail called Maggie Gulch that I have wanted to take in the past but never did. It was a steep narrow canyon that went up and back as it dead ended about 12 miles up the mountain. Just after turning around and dropping back down into the tree line we spotted this moose just across the gulley from us, about 50', and he didn't seem to be too awfully bothered by us.
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He even turned and gave me a side profile.
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Then as we headed to dinner in Ridgeway we passed by a bunch of wild turkeys.
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Dinner did not disappoint. Best pork green chili stew ever and we can't wait to go back and get some each year.
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More pictures to come.....
 
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Continuing on with our trip.


The next day we took Last Dollar Road over to Telluride. I had heard there was the old cabin from the original True Grit movie with John Wayne (1969) on this route so I did some research and found the GPS coordinates and plugged them into our tablet. I turned down a road and the wife was surprised when we found it. I was surprised it was in as good of condition as it was.
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There was even a placard on the gate out front.
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Then we drove through Telluride (not stopping) and headed up and over Imogene Pass. We stopped at the Tomboy Mine near the top for lunch.
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We barely finished with lunch and put the chairs away and flipped the top up when the skies opened up.
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As we drove out of the rain it was lightening and threatening rain all around us but the push to the top of Imogene Pass was dry.
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I didn't spend too much time outside the Jeep with the lightening going on though. :oops:
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The next day we wanted to do the Alpine Loop and head over to Lake City via Mineral Creek and Engineer Pass. I shot this picture was we just above the tree line on Engineer Pass looking down into the valley we had just climbed out of.
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Top of Engineer Pass.
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A smaller waterfall as we neared the town of Lake City.
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We didn't take a lunch with us on this trip as we generally like to stop in Lake City for lunch, at least when we have a smaller group with us as it is too difficult with a large group of anything over about 5 couples. The restaurant we like to stop at is quite small. One of the best chicken fried steaks ever though and another meal we look forward to each year.
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More to come....
 
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Continuing on.

After leaving Lake City, we took Cinnamon Pass back to Animas Forks then highway 550 back to Ouray.
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The next day we did some unscheduled or mapped out exploring and rather than take our lunch we opted to go into Silverton and give the pizza joint another try that we found last year. It didn't disappoint and was just as good as it was last year. Excellent brick over pizza.
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The next day we took a trail that I have wanted to do for several years but have been unable to, Stoney Pass. This took off from just outside Silverton and headed east towards Creed. This 38-mile dirt road was awesome and we quickly climbed in altitude and only passed a few people the entire day on this trail.
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Just as we found a nice quiet place for lunch a couple of side by sides ripped past us and up until this point we had only seen one other person.
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Once we dropped down in altitude the road changed to become more of a dirt highway but still the scenery was spectacular. This is the Rio Grande Reservoir about 10-miles before we hit pavement on highway 149. We ended up popping back out on the highway about mid-point between Creed and Lake City on Hwy. 149.
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A few miles down the road we saw a cow and calf moose in this little kettle lake only a mile or so from the pavement. It is hard to see the calf but you can barely see an ear over the rump of the cow. They wouldn't move much to allow for a better picture. Until we drove off that is, then they separated. :rolleyes:
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Once we hit Hwy 149, rather than air up and take the pavement back, we headed about 25 miles north towards Lake City and ended up taking Cinnamon Pass back over to Animas Forks and then Silverton. As it was getting late in the day we opted to eat dinner in Silverton, especially since the trains had left for the day and the streets weren't as crowded. I was craving a burger and we have had good luck at Handlebars for a burger so we indulged. It was quite noisy as there was a birthday party going on upstairs but the food as well as service was excellent as always.
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Friday morning being our last day in the area we splurged and ate breakfast at the campground. The chile verde smothered breakfast burrito was delicious and even the coffee was pretty good.
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It was threatening rain on Friday so we stuck to more scenic trails on the last day. Our campsite for the week was great and other than one night earlier in the week, we had great neighbors the entire time. The group next to us for the last couple of nights were from a manufacturer's group and they were very nice. They asked us to join them a couple of nights during their happy hour time and even sat under their pop-up canopies during a thunderstorm one night. Great people.
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That concludes our 2024 Ouray trip.

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Upon returning home in the heat I had to commence the cleaning process.

The last night it rained all night long and then most of the drive home was in the rain, so everything was filthy by the time we arrived home.

I started with the engine bay and generator bay to clean the road spray off.
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Then moved on to the driver's side washing and chamoising. Moving the ladder and rinse and repeat.
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Almost done with only the rear cap to do.
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Looking down on the rear cap from the ladder.
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And lastly backed into the shop and parked until the next trip.
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The ole' girl isn't perfect, but I think she looks pretty good for a 22-year-old rig with 143k miles on it.

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Looks like you and the wife had another great adventure Mike!

I was surprised at just how many breakdowns we witnessed on the trail this year. The suspension being tests is only the beginning, but the engine's cooling system, transmission, transfer case, brakes and axles as well as basic things like tires with all of the sharp rocks on the shelf roads.

As you know (I think you knew?) my wife bought a '22 JLUS (3.6L V6) back in back in May. We are new to Jeeps (this our first 4x4) and haven't taken it off-road yet, but I've been trying to at least do some homework on the subject. I went back and watched your video about overheating and why blocking the grill opening with light bars, winch, etc was a bad idea. Now every time I see Jeep with all that stuff in front of the grill I'm always thinking "Mike said don't do that!". I love lights in general, but when we get a new bumper, I plan to heed your warning and not block the grill opening.
 

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I luv these write-ups Mike!.

You mentioned wheeling with all the lightning going on, well I got a short story for you. Last Wednesday after coming back from a project in NM we got hit insanely hard at the house around 5-5:30. My daughter just happened to call and I was telling here about how intense it was. Thunder, lightening, insane rain and wind and she asked me to video it. So I had just cracked open the blinds at the back porch door and was just about to hit the start button when lightening struck maybe 20ft from where I was in the house. It was flipping blinding and unfn real LOUD!, luckily no major damage to the house. Lost a couple GFI receptacles, the internet router and it threw the garage door opener for a major loop.
 
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Looks like you and the wife had another great adventure Mike!



As you know (I think you knew?) my wife bought a '22 JLUS (3.6L V6) back in back in May. We are new to Jeeps (this our first 4x4) and haven't taken it off-road yet, but I've been trying to at least do some homework on the subject. I went back and watched your video about overheating and why blocking the grill opening with light bars, winch, etc was a bad idea. Now every time I see Jeep with all that stuff in front of the grill I'm always thinking "Mike said don't do that!". I love lights in general, but when we get a new bumper, I plan to heed your warning and not block the grill opening.

Thanks Vincent. Several of the Jeeps that were experiencing overheating had their grilles blocked by tall winches and/or lights. While stopped at the bottom of Hurricane Pass waiting for a group of side by sides to come down there was a group standing there talking near the outhouse. I heard one of them say he "hopes he doesn't get the over-temp light again today making that climb like he did a couple of days ago."

I know sometimes I come across rather snobbish and I've been working on that, so I casually walked over and asked him about his Warn Powerplant and light bar and asked if he thought that was obstructing the grille? (It obviously was but I was trying not to sound accusatory). He said he didn't think so and he sees a lot of Jeeps with the same or similar configuration, I withheld my remark about that not being much of an argument. :rolleyes: I mentioned that at these altitudes the air is much thinner and therefore has a harder time transferring the heat away from the cooling stack and having that area blocked really impedes the airflow. He said he never had a problem before. I then mentioned that it probably because the electric fan was working hard but was doing the job required, that is until the heat is combined with less dense air, where here in the thinner air the fan simply can't keep up with the demand. I tried explaining that heat is the byproduct of the work being done and if there's nowhere for the heat to go or something obstructing the airflow that heat cannot dissipate and keeps compounding.

I pointed to mine stating I was pushing twice the power as his stock powertrain, and I was not experiencing heating issues because my grille is completely open and unobstructed by lights and/or winch, but I don't think it was registering.

We ended up passing him on the third switchback when he pulled off due to overheating, again, evidently.


On another day, we passed a side by side that was ******* coolant out of it in a white cloud. When we stopped to see if they needed help, the guy just said it started smoking for no reason and running like ****/missing. I didn't even want to point out that Trasharoo hanging right in front of his radiator and totally blocking all airflow. :dunno:
 
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I luv these write-ups Mike!.

You mentioned wheeling with all the lightning going on, well I got a short story for you. Last Wednesday after coming back from a project in NM we got hit insanely hard at the house around 5-5:30. My daughter just happened to call and I was telling here about how intense it was. Thunder, lightening, insane rain and wind and she asked me to video it. So I had just cracked open the blinds at the back porch door and was just about to hit the start button when lightening struck maybe 20ft from where I was in the house. It was flipping blinding and unfn real LOUD!, luckily no major damage to the house. Lost a couple GFI receptacles, the internet router and it threw the garage door opener for a major loop.

Thanks Cam.

Yeah, that would have gotten my attention as well. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Looks like you and the wife had another great adventure Mike!



As you know (I think you knew?) my wife bought a '22 JLUS (3.6L V6) back in back in May. We are new to Jeeps (this our first 4x4) and haven't taken it off-road yet, but I've been trying to at least do some homework on the subject. I went back and watched your video about overheating and why blocking the grill opening with light bars, winch, etc was a bad idea. Now every time I see Jeep with all that stuff in front of the grill I'm always thinking "Mike said don't do that!". I love lights in general, but when we get a new bumper, I plan to heed your warning and not block the grill opening.


Vincent, I also wanted to commend you on the fact that you are in fact, doing research.

Unfortunately, this is very uncommon these days. In many things, but in the Jeep or off-road arena in particular. We routinely run across people who had just dropped some major funds on their new Jeep just to find out they have no idea how things operate nor did any research prior to purchasing and have little to no knowledge of how mechanical things work. I'm not saying they need to be able to rebuild the engine or transmission, but many have no common sense on the trail yet they're driving in the back country winging it and relying on luck. Going into the back country and out of communication range in my opinion requires a bit more than the average skillset or knowledge base. I am all for trying to help people on the trail or in the club we used to belong to as far as gaining information and knowledge prior to hitting the trails. However, I have come to the conclusion that you can't help those who won't help themselves and when they have issues but are unwilling to listen or think they know it all, I have to walk away and just let them be.

I have also run across many people who actually ask a lot of questions, and I love answering those that I can answer as I don't know everything. That which I do know or have experience with, I am happy to share. What I've found is that this usually takes place in a campground and not so much on the trail.
 

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Badass pics Mike; it's hard to understand just how amazing the scenery is in that region by pictures alone!

I'm 100% on board with fully prepping a Jeep before going to the Rockies. I bought a CJ7 in anticipation of going this summer (not happening now), but I've been going through everything on it. It was a clean Jeep, but people don't understand the details are what will make/break your trip. My wife doesn't get it as I told her it was clean when I bought it and not a "project"......I didn't say it didn't need a full prep.

We got surrounded by lightning in Cedar City last week racing UTV's. It wasn't cool being the only metal object on a mountain top! I don't usually get too bothered by it, but the day before we barely made it out of a wash in time for a monsoon to roll through. We got back to the RV park/race trailer and the lightning caused 2 forest fires while we were standing there! Luckily, they both self extinguished.
 

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Mike,
You were making mention of drivetrain/transfer case issues on the Jeeps. Any reason for that to be happening?
 

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However, I have come to the conclusion that you can't help those who won't help themselves and when they have issues but are unwilling to listen or think they know it all, I have to walk away and just let them be.
Mike, my parents were teachers so most of their knowledge came from books. If there was a book on pulling a trailer with a passenger car, my father didn't find or read it. Even at 9 I didn't think the hitch Sears installed was very sturdy but I had already been reprimanded for fixing the solenoid switches on the train layout in the basement. Like everyone, I had an opinion and an ******* and neither impressed my father.

On our first trip across the lower 48 that hitch made it from New York to just over the California border. Custom trailer and hitch shop was within sight and they built a super strong hitch and replaced the manual electric brake controller with an adjustable automatic one.

The second crossing of the lower 48 to the east side of the Rockies, went by without incident. The third, which involved driving across the Canadian provinces all the way to Fairbanks, Alaska included 5 flat tires on the dirt section of the Alcan Highway and one blowout on the paved part in Alaska. At least we had 8-ply truck tires on the Olds 98 and carried four spares (three for the car and one for the trailer). I vividly remember Dad making a slight wrong turn that took us down an extremely narrow road. It was supposed to re-join the Alcan highway but the last stretch was a very steep and wet stretch of dirt road. We would make it up to the halfway point and lose traction. A passing pickup truck saw us struggling and pulled over to help. I thought he was going to connect a 300-foot cable or rope and pull us out but all he said was for my mother, brother and I to stand on the tongue of the trailer. We drove out of there like we were on dry pavement.

There wasn't a lot of traffic on the Alcan Highway in 1957 so nobody ever drove past a vehicle in trouble. Or a person for that matter. We picked up a guy whose dark green coveralls were caked with mud. He had backed his bulldozer a few feet off the road and it sank out of sight in the melted permafrost. We took him to the maintenance yard 40 miles down the road.
 
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